gonzo Posted July 31, 2025 Posted July 31, 2025 2 hours ago, Whitestar said: Sheffield Wednesday? Big club? Yeah you would say so and no doubt have a long and rich history, but growing up in the 70s i can't think that I'd ever remember them being in the top flight? It was the usual plus Leeds and even the likes of QPR & Southampton had good teams. In the 80s we played them a few times but only in second tier. They had a few successful seasons in the 90s and maybe into the early 00s but then fell back to being a bit of a big also rans club. I don't want to see this type of club go under and it a proper shame its come to this, for what its worth i think they'll survive. I've got them 1 tier above us in the big club stakes. Quote
Whitestar Posted July 31, 2025 Posted July 31, 2025 2 minutes ago, gonzo said: I've got them 1 tier above us in the big club stakes. 1 tier or 1 place above in the position of Big clubness??? Quote
Whitestar Posted July 31, 2025 Posted July 31, 2025 Tiers of Big Clubness. 1. Your Sky luvvies x 6 plus probably Newcastle and (argue amongst yourself, Villa, Forest. West ham etc) 2. Big clubs, Everton, Sunderland, Leeds, Sheffield Wed etc.(plus others) 3. Biggish Clubs, US, Pompey,Stoke city,West Bromwich, Middlesbrough, Blackburn, Birmingham, QPR, Fulham, Derby etc.(plus others) 4. Clubs with history but time has forgotten., Preston, Huddersfield, Burnley, Coventry, Cardiff, etc (plus others) 5. Upstarts & Johnny come lately clubs, Brighton, Bournemouth, Brentford, Watford, Reading, Oxford, MK Dons, Swansea, Etc (plus others) 6. Just Football clubs, Swindon, Northampton, Lincoln, Bristol rovers , Wrexham, etc ( ahh ya get the idea) 7. Dross. Tranmere, Wigan, wolves,etc Omg I'm bored. Quote
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted July 31, 2025 Posted July 31, 2025 3 hours ago, Whitestar said: Sheffield Wednesday? Big club? Yeah you would say so and no doubt have a long and rich history, but growing up in the 70s i can't think that I'd ever remember them being in the top flight? It was the usual plus Leeds and even the likes of QPR & Southampton had good teams. In the 80s we played them a few times but only in second tier. They had a few successful seasons in the 90s and maybe into the early 00s but then fell back to being a bit of a big also rans club. I don't want to see this type of club go under and it a proper shame its come to this, for what its worth i think they'll survive. Their players are apparently walking out but they've just appointed a new manager I'm now sure what's going on there Quote
Dr. Feelgood Posted July 31, 2025 Posted July 31, 2025 1 hour ago, DirtySanchez said: From what i recall they got points deductions for breaching PRS and handing their accounts in late to cover it up Then they got another for going into admin, which we did, and then it's at point people get left out of pocket So for the latter they no different than us, thrn they got a takeover and came back, just as we did Yep. But they'd done it twice previously. Oh, & whatever we did we didn't commit fraud trying to hide our numbers. Quote
bwfc6ix Posted July 31, 2025 Posted July 31, 2025 14 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: Their players are apparently walking out but they've just appointed a new manager I'm now sure what's going on there Named Henrik Pedersen. Had to double check it wasn’t our Henrik Pedersen. It isn’t. Quote
Rival Son Posted July 31, 2025 Posted July 31, 2025 It’s also not really a new appointment. Just a promotion from the backroom team. Not sure they’d be allowed to recruit at the moment. Quote
DirtySanchez Posted July 31, 2025 Posted July 31, 2025 56 minutes ago, Dr. Feelgood said: Yep. But they'd done it twice previously. Oh, & whatever we did we didn't commit fraud trying to hide our numbers. But you said they ripped off local businesses and started again Isn't that we did? That's what happens with admin Which both clubs did? Quote
Dr. Feelgood Posted July 31, 2025 Posted July 31, 2025 (edited) 1 hour ago, DirtySanchez said: But you said they ripped off local businesses and started again Isn't that we did? That's what happens with admin Which both clubs did? Fck me, this is more difficult than it should be. We did. ONCE. They are serial offenders, falsified their books on the last one. So BW - Guilty. Derby - Guilty, Guilty, Guilty with fraud on top. Edited July 31, 2025 by Dr. Feelgood Quote
Manchester_whites Posted July 31, 2025 Author Posted July 31, 2025 Sheffield Wednesdays friendly at Burnley at the weekend has been cancelled. The players have refused to play because they’ve not been paid again. Quote
DirtySanchez Posted July 31, 2025 Posted July 31, 2025 1 hour ago, Dr. Feelgood said: Fck me, this is more difficult than it should be. We did. ONCE. They are serial offenders, falsified their books on the last one. So BW - Guilty. Derby - Guilty, Guilty, Guilty with fraud on top. Its really not Them breaking PSR and cooking the books doesn't harm local businesses Going into admin does Which they did And we did It really isn't that hard Quote
Dr. Feelgood Posted July 31, 2025 Posted July 31, 2025 1 minute ago, DirtySanchez said: Its really not Them breaking PSR and cooking the books doesn't harm local businesses Going into admin does Which they did And we did It really isn't that hard 🙄🫣 Quote
DirtySanchez Posted July 31, 2025 Posted July 31, 2025 Just now, Dr. Feelgood said: 🙄🫣 You said they crashed and burned and started all over again, ripping off businesses in the process That's what happens when clubs go into admin sadly We did the same How are they more guilty than us? Emojis don't count Quote
Dr. Feelgood Posted July 31, 2025 Posted July 31, 2025 6 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said: You said they crashed and burned and started all over again, ripping off businesses in the process That's what happens when clubs go into admin sadly We did the same How are they more guilty than us? Emojis don't count Because ... Derby ... Did ... It ... THREE ... Times. AND deliberately falsified their accounts, AND appealed to drag the outcome over two discreet seasons. We went into admin. They did ... & did ... & did with knobs on. Why that isn't penetrating your fckg skull I've no idea. Quote
DirtySanchez Posted July 31, 2025 Posted July 31, 2025 1 minute ago, Dr. Feelgood said: Because ... Derby ... Did ... It ... THREE ... Times. AND deliberately falsified their accounts, AND appealed to drag the outcome over two discreet seasons. We went into admin. They did ... & did ... & did with knobs on. Why that isn't penetrating your fckg skull I've no idea. You've changed your original point though You said they crashed and burned and local businesses were left to suffer and came back Now that's what happens when a club goes into admin and they then come out Which they did, and we did That's my original point but you seem to want to bring the other charges in None of which had anything to do with them ripping of local businesses They gambled on getting to the prem by overspending abd then would be untouchable like QPR thought But two of the charges have nothing to do with the original point you were trying to make Quote
Winchester White Posted July 31, 2025 Posted July 31, 2025 This thread has gone like an RW and LW special with an added side of cheese. 😁 Quote
gonzo Posted July 31, 2025 Posted July 31, 2025 Tbf to Mel Morris he poured half of his lifes fortune in to the club then couldn't afford to anymore. Same way Eddie pulling the plug nearly sent us under and needing Deano and his Blue Marble loan to save us. Quote
Winchester White Posted July 31, 2025 Posted July 31, 2025 18 minutes ago, gonzo said: Tbf to Mel Morris he poured half of his lifes fortune in to the club then couldn't afford to anymore. Same way Eddie pulling the plug nearly sent us under and needing Deano and his Blue Marble loan to save us. Grim times them, then things got really very weird for a while. Quote
gonzo Posted July 31, 2025 Posted July 31, 2025 2 minutes ago, Winchester White said: Grim times them, then things got really very weird for a while. Horrible times but bizarrely a promotion and the forest miracle in the middle of it all. Quote
Traf Posted July 31, 2025 Posted July 31, 2025 Didn't Derby also sell their ground to their owner for stupid money at one point? Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted July 31, 2025 Posted July 31, 2025 19 minutes ago, Traf said: Didn't Derby also sell their ground to their owner for stupid money at one point? Something like that. A complete con. Quote
Sweep Posted July 31, 2025 Posted July 31, 2025 1 hour ago, Winchester White said: Grim times them, then things got really very weird for a while. Aye, the likes of Disley and Bassini milling around, saying they would buy the club. Anderson and his very odd son doing what they did. Stelios quietly going about his business. It was a time of utter madness. Quote
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted July 31, 2025 Posted July 31, 2025 3 minutes ago, Sweep said: Aye, the likes of Disley and Bassini milling around, saying they would buy the club. Anderson and his very odd son doing what they did. Stelios quietly going about his business. It was a time of utter madness. Don't forget Howard Quote
Whitestar Posted July 31, 2025 Posted July 31, 2025 I'm sure that Howard cadged a lift in my car to Maine rd in the mid 80s when our game v Bury was called off, CBA checking but it might have been boxing day. Clever bloke. (Using someone else to park near Maine rd). Quote
Zico Posted July 31, 2025 Posted July 31, 2025 2 hours ago, Winchester White said: Grim times them, then things got really very weird for a while. they did I posted the other day when Bassini was being interviewed in a park about having proof of funds, and dropping the letters all over the place whilst trying to show them to the camera the other weird moment i recall is when he went on sky sports and told how if we was going to save us, and to prove it he brought in a bolton top with his name on the back video here https://www.skysports.com/football/video/16464/11704467/bassini-assures-bolton-players-on-wages no club should ever have to go through this Quote
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