No Henderson in the provisional squad 

One for all the stat lovers, the xGOT (expected goals on target) rating on that chance at the end was 0.94.

I know everyone here will appreciate this.

Edited July 2, 20241 yr by Marc505

3 hours ago, desperado said:

Just goes to show previous form means nowt. Arguably one of best teams from group stages out. 

Hopefully England will turn up just like the Dutch finally did.

10 hours ago, Dr. Feelgood said:

Now that's weird. The in-laws lived on a Winchester Way.

We have entered the twilight zone 

9 hours ago, Wanderlust said:

Netherlands will be fancying their route to the final.

We were invited over to the ponderosa to watch their game last night by my current Dutch neighbour and his missus. As we left he said "We can't wait to get stuck into England". After that added "But you won't get past Switzerland".

I predicted weeks ago that we'd go out in the quarters. Hope I am wrong and Turkey knock them out. I'll be letting him know 

6 hours ago, desperado said:

Just goes to show previous form means nowt. Arguably one of best teams from group stages out. 

I always expect the fast starters to falter. Spain next?

2 hours ago, bolty58 said:

I always expect the fast starters to falter. Spain next?

I think so, yes. I’ve gone for Germany, Portugal, England & Holland at 30/1

9 hours ago, Marc505 said:

One for all the stat lovers, the xGOT (expected goals on target) rating on that chance at the end was 0.94.

I know everyone here will appreciate this.

What the Dickens is a xGOT?? Aren't all goals 'goals on target'?

19 minutes ago, DazBob said:

What the Dickens is a xGOT?? Aren't all goals 'goals on target'?

I think the abbreviation is misleading, in full it means the post contact quality of any shot on target. So 0.94 means the keeper had a 6% chance of saving it.

Basically, it was a great save.

 

 

(No, I don't really understand xG either but it is a metric based on thousands of pieces of data)

1 hour ago, DazBob said:

What the Dickens is a xGOT?? Aren't all goals 'goals on target'?

I think (but am not sure and think xG is bollocks) it means any effort on target from that position would result in a goal 94% of the time

What was our XG v Oxford?

1 hour ago, DazBob said:

What the Dickens is a xGOT?? Aren't all goals 'goals on target'?

https://www.statsperform.com/resource/introducing-expected-goals-on-target-xgot/#:~:text=xG measures the quality of,to do with these chances.
 

just been reading up on it - quite interesting really. 
 

As I understand it:

xG = pre shot. Eg if you shoot from 5 yards out you will have a higher xG than if you shoot from 25 yards out.

xGOT = post shot. Eg if you shoot right down the middle of the goal you will have a lower xGOT than if you had put one right in the top corner

3 minutes ago, gonzo said:

What was our XG v Oxford?

surprised it is this high tbh

 

Data	Bolton Wanderers	Oxford United
Possession	63%	37%
Shots	6	11
Cards	4	1
Corners	7	3
Fouls	12	12
Offsides	0	1
xG	0.77	1.3

Kinell, my brain hurts. I can just imagine one of the proponents of all this old bollocks trying to knock it into the head of someone like the late, great Tommy Banks. I can certainly imagine his response.

Last night I saw two enjoyable games with teams having a go at each other and one truly memorable save.

What more analysis than this is needed I am not quite sure.

9 minutes ago, Mantra said:

https://www.statsperform.com/resource/introducing-expected-goals-on-target-xgot/#:~:text=xG measures the quality of,to do with these chances.
 

just been reading up on it - quite interesting really. 
 

As I understand it:

xG = pre shot. Eg if you shoot from 5 yards out you will have a higher xG than if you shoot from 25 yards out.

xGOT = post shot. Eg if you shoot right down the middle of the goal you will have a lower xGOT than if you had put one right in the top corner

What a pile of owd shite.

27 minutes ago, Dr. Feelgood said:

What a pile of owd shite.

as per a previous response to you saying this

1 hour ago, Dr. Feelgood said:

What a pile of owd shite.

It's new shite, really.

6 hours ago, bolty58 said:

We have entered the twilight zone 

It was the twilight zone. My great auntie lived on WW on the right as you go up the hill and I often visited her in the late 50s when it was surrounded by fields and fairly remote on the edge of town. I can't forget that the house numbers were bonkers with both odd and even numbers on the same side of the road but with gaps in the numbers where there were no gaps in the houses. Distant memory but I seem to remember 48, 50, 49, 60 as being next to each other in that order. Weird.

16 minutes ago, Marc505 said:

It's new shite, really.

Fair point. 

Let's stick with "What a load of shite" then.

2 hours ago, gonzo said:

What was our XG v Oxford?

0.00

5 minutes ago, DazBob said:

0.00

Love our possession stats there.

50% of it was Santos stood on the ball like a fucking lighthouse.

33 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Love our possession stats there.

50% of it was Santos stood on the ball like a fucking lighthouse.

Still baffled how badly we played but summed up the season really. Put ourselves in a great position for promotion and then froze when it mattered most.

Hopefully the loss can be looked at as positive in summer 2025 of lessons learned and problems addressed and we can go up a level with a stronger base to build on.

7 hours ago, gonzo said:

What was our XG v Oxford?

The shit one. 

7 hours ago, Mantra said:

surprised it is this high tbh

 

Data	Bolton Wanderers	Oxford United
Possession	63%	37%
Shots	6	11
Cards	4	1
Corners	7	3
Fouls	12	12
Offsides	0	1
xG	0.77	1.3

only one i recall being any where near was Sheehans shot

but it went wide, so does that count towards XG?

Faye Carruthers on RFM is like a state sponsored journalist from the Kremlin.

She's either scared to say anything remotely negative or she's totally fucking brainwashed like the rest of Southgates bubble.

1 minute ago, Zico said:

only one i recall being any where near was Sheehans shot

but it went wide, so does that count towards XG?

XG but not XGOT.