Euro 24

[Casino]

15 minutes ago, Traf said:

I also though that once Guehi was ruled out of the next game, 3 minutes in, that another centre half should have got minutes.

to clarify, you would sub guehi (who rightly or wrongly southgate thinks is better than the alternatives) and replace him with somebody else, to be ready for the next game?

is the priority not to get through the game you are in?

i could see your point if we were 4 up

[deeane Koontz]

The media, pundits and fans have been quite fair on the whole considering the performances they've served up. 

If players are bitching because of a bit of just criticism they need to stop being massive minges. 

I'll bet my house most of them have been doomscrolling social media and watching m0ngy football YouTubers in their downtime.

[Cheese]

53 minutes ago, wiggy said:

Lots of the England player / manager interviews have been a bit strange this tournament. But the post match interviews last night led me to believe there is something very wrong in the squad. Southgate calling out Toney because apparently he was unhappy about being brought on when he was. Why would he volunteer that himself? Just strange 

He hasn't "called him out" you sensitive fanny 😂

[L/H White]

Gareth has now won more knockout games in major tournaments than every other England manager since 1966 combined. 

We must've had a load of fucking woke managers over the years

[wiggy]

4 minutes ago, Cheese said:

He hasn't "called him out" you sensitive fanny 😂

Hasn’t he? Wasn’t asked about it but chose to basically have a go at him in public. Doesn’t feel like the behaviour of a manager who is in control to me.

[barrycowdrill]

This squad we have now has been put together on the waves of positivity. Yep there have been lows in terms of results but generally speaking there has never really been any scrutiny or criticism of them. That’s what they’re finding hard to take. But it’s all valid. Them coming out with responses in the media is bordering on petulance. All of them individually and collectively should be ramming those words down peoples throats with their performances. Instead those performances are reinforcing the criticism. 
 

they can all come out and say they haven’t performed as well as they’d like? Yet when anyone else does they’re out of order? They need to get a fucking grip. The backing they get no matter where they play, game after game shouldn’t be anywhere near up for debate and if they expect people to accept what’s occurred in the last 4 games where realistically we’ve done ok for a combined time of 15 minutes they’re fucking moon men 

Edited July 1, 2024 by barrycowdrill

[radcliffe white]

Shocking performance but ground a win out we certainly can’t play any worse that’s for sure, not many will agree but I still think we can make the final 

[barrycowdrill]

8 minutes ago, radcliffe white said:

Shocking performance but ground a win out we certainly can’t play any worse that’s for sure, not many will agree but I still think we can make the final 

I think Sat is tougher than any possible semi final opponents so yeh don’t disagree. 

[Mantra]

My predicted line up (if trippier is injured and putting myself in Southgates head)

.                     Pickford

.          Walker, Stones, Konsah

. Trent,                                       Saka

.                         Rice

.               Mainoo    Foden

.                Kane, Bellingham

 

Or

.               Pickford;

Walker, Stones, Konsah, Gomez;

.              Mainoo, Rice;

.    Saka, Bellingham, Foden;

.                     Kane
 

Unless Trippier is fit he’s going to have to change the back line significantly which makes me think he will switch to a back 5 for more solidity…

[Cheese]

37 minutes ago, wiggy said:

Hasn’t he? Wasn’t asked about it but chose to basically have a go at him in public. Doesn’t feel like the behaviour of a manager who is in control to me.

It was a light-hearted joke after a stressful game ffs. Surely you don't genuinely believe Southgate has singled out Toney  for criticism after bringing him on in the last minute?

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

58 minutes ago, wiggy said:

Hasn’t he? Wasn’t asked about it but chose to basically have a go at him in public. Doesn’t feel like the behaviour of a manager who is in control to me.

I think you're reading too much into it

[wiggy]

Fair enough. It was a stressful day for everyone. Us included!

[Wanderlust]

 

[bolty58]

4 hours ago, DazBob said:

It will never not be a go-to jibe.  No point getting arsey about it now.

Arsey? Moi? Never.

 

[Traf]

2 hours ago, Casino said:

to clarify, you would sub guehi (who rightly or wrongly southgate thinks is better than the alternatives) and replace him with somebody else, to be ready for the next game?

is the priority not to get through the game you are in?

i could see your point if we were 4 up

Yes, I'd have taken Guehi off.
Booked after 3 (?) minutes with a card-happy ref.
 

[DirtySanchez]

2 minutes ago, Traf said:

Yes, I'd have taken Guehi off.
Booked after 3 (?) minutes with a card-happy ref.
 

Was odd in that he was card happy at first but then let a lot go with players already on a booking 

[Casino]

8 minutes ago, Traf said:

Yes, I'd have taken Guehi off.
Booked after 3 (?) minutes with a card-happy ref.
 

fair enough and wouldnt argue with that but tbf, thats different

thats trying to avoid a red, rather than getting somebody up to speed

[Johnnyrotten]

8 hours ago, Stig said:

Laporte and Rodri definitely. Possibly Cucurella, but only because we're so weak at left back. If you look at the rest player by player you'd pick ours on paper. 

Based on performances at this tournament you'd pick all the Spain team though.

Fair enough, those were the 3 that sprung to mind immediately, plus Williams over Saka from what I've seen.  Cucurella is very average TBH but still miles better than what we have even if everyone fit.  I don't have enough knowledge of the rest of the Spain team apart from Morata, but they looked much sharper than us generally.  When we've been starting with the likes of TAA and Gallagher in midfield, its hard to make a case for our individuals being better than most "top" sides.  But I take your original point - they appear to make more of what they have than us and play as a unit with a co-ordinated plan.

[Johnnyrotten]

7 hours ago, Zico said:

I've gone from thinking we have the players to win it, to waiting for us to get beat 

Surely the Swiss will finish us off and put us out this strange footballing misery 

I mean we topped the group and got through the next round 

But it's been painful 

But seems the teams who could properly bum us are on the other side of the draw 

So it's all becoming a long drawn out tournament 

It's probably going to come home

It shows the luck (or lack of luck) that can be involved in tournament football - I don't think anyone would begrudge Germany and/or Spain getting to the final as they look good enough.  But either the Spain manager or the Germany manager are going to have "lost in Q-F" on their CV.  We could grind out a 0-0 v the mighty Switzerland and win on pens and Southgate has another "got to a semi" on his CV.  And the France or Belgium managers won't even get to have Q-F on their CV.  So much down to the luck of the draw and Southgate just has the knack, I'd love to see what he'd do with the fixtures the other UK countries get landed with for qualifiers.

[L/H White]

Clive Tyldesleys last game for ITV after 28 years yesterday, ITV decided not to renew his contract. 

Flat dick now lead commentator hahaha fuck off 

[Arrested development]

5 minutes ago, L/H White said:

Clive Tyldesleys last game for ITV after 28 years yesterday, ITV decided not to renew his contract. 

Flat dick now lead commentator hahaha fuck off 

I don't understand the logic or midway through a tournament just let him do the tournament.

[L/H White]

Well this is dull

[RoadRunnerFan]

37 minutes ago, Arrested development said:

I don't understand the logic or midway through a tournament just let him do the tournament.

His contract must have run to 30th June like a player's. Seems really odd though. 

[tomski]

30 minutes ago, RoadRunnerFan said:

His contract must have run to 30th June like a player's. Seems really odd though. 

We were discussing this. Must of been a bad do if they didn’t want to extend by 2 weeks to finish the tournament off.

[Rizlar]

Football is now becoming boring sick of this tippy tappy slow build up football !