December 7, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, Zico said: I fully expect a turgid 0-1 defeat Even pep lite can beat these. Fully understand your pessimism though.
December 7, 20241 yr 12 minutes ago, tomski said: Really should be no excuses this time. Weren't really any previous years. Minimum is to compete, and we haven't done. We really could do with getting ahead, and score in the first half. Dampen their spirit, then break it later.
December 7, 20241 yr The first time we met under Evatt, they just had a better team than we did It didn't excuse the performance but we were never winning it The home fixture last season really was inexcusable though and, as has already been posted, there simply is no excuse this time round The first goal will be huge
December 7, 20241 yr One thing is for sure: if you don't compete, you don't give yourself chance of victory, even if the other side have a better team on paper.
December 7, 20241 yr Not sure about the "no excuses", its a L1 game and in our last 2 homes, the first half performances have been very poor. Throw in the Shrewsbury and Burton first halves a couple of months ago, yes those games turned out OK in the end but do we really see us turning round a 1st half deficit against these men assuming they keep 11 men on the pitch? Course we should be confident we'll be better than them if we turn up, but we don't have any right to go into any league game with a superiority complex with the way we are playing.
December 7, 20241 yr It's football and obviously anything can happen on the day I wouldn't argue we have a divine right to beat anyone but I think the point is we have everything to our advantage
December 7, 20241 yr It's a fact that Evatt has signed certain types of players, to fit his system. NOT included in that are hard men ... or feisty fckrs. We're polite, too pretty & too easily overwhelmed. I have little up to date knowledge of the Wigan mentality or team make up but they do, typically, turn up against us & have a go. I bloody hope Evatg knows this & can anticipate it & set the players up right. If it doesn't matter to the players it does to the fans. Very much. The usual 0-4 & he shouldn't even go into the changing room, just drive home & stay there.
December 7, 20241 yr Wigans defence is pretty good apart from today of course but they have problems scoring we should be winning this .
December 7, 20241 yr Bollocks to those that say there aren’t, unless we get 2 men incorrectly sent off there are “no excuses”. They’re 18th and genuinely battling relegation, they’ve got 9 points from 9 away games this season and they’ve lost their last 3 league games. If we don’t win this game then he has to be questioned about the big game thing. I’d say he has to go. There’s no easier chance to beat these twats and a big win could turn the tide. No excuses, genuinely.
December 7, 20241 yr 3 hours ago, Zico said: I fully expect a turgid 0-1 defeat and plenty claiming that's year on year progress 😁
December 7, 20241 yr 2 hours ago, wakey said: and plenty claiming that's year on year progress 😁 We'd have lost this game 0-4 last season And the season before 0-4 200/1
December 7, 20241 yr 3 hours ago, Eddie said: Bollocks to those that say there aren’t, unless we get 2 men incorrectly sent off there are “no excuses”. They’re 18th and genuinely battling relegation, they’ve got 9 points from 9 away games this season and they’ve lost their last 3 league games. If we don’t win this game then he has to be questioned about the big game thing. I’d say he has to go. There’s no easier chance to beat these twats and a big win could turn the tide. No excuses, genuinely. Granted their defeat today was poor. Their other 2 defeats in last 3 were Wycombe and Huddersfield, the same results we would have got on current form. They've had 1 very poor away defeat - Cambridge. But draws at Blackpool, Stockport and Lincoln conceding 2 in total - we'd be happy with those results. Wins at Barnsley and Bristol Rovers with a total score of 5-0 - what chance we'd do that? Lost 1-0 at Huddersfield, 2-1 at Brum in last minute, and at Reading, all top 6. Again, not sure where we'd have got better results? Nonsense to class this as an easy game. If we win, and its against 11 men, its one of our best results of the season to date.
December 7, 20241 yr 13 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said: Granted their defeat today was poor. Their other 2 defeats in last 3 were Wycombe and Huddersfield, the same results we would have got on current form. They've had 1 very poor away defeat - Cambridge. But draws at Blackpool, Stockport and Lincoln conceding 2 in total - we'd be happy with those results. Wins at Barnsley and Bristol Rovers with a total score of 5-0 - what chance we'd do that? Lost 1-0 at Huddersfield, 2-1 at Brum in last minute, and at Reading, all top 6. Again, not sure where we'd have got better results? Nonsense to class this as an easy game. If we win, and its against 11 men, its one of our best results of the season to date. I doubt anyone thinks it's an easy game because we've not beaten them in our last eight meetings and 10 years since we did But more than ever it's one we should be looking to win if we're serious about promotion, when you consider we're at home and their form and position
December 7, 20241 yr 31 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said: Granted their defeat today was poor. Their other 2 defeats in last 3 were Wycombe and Huddersfield, the same results we would have got on current form. They've had 1 very poor away defeat - Cambridge. But draws at Blackpool, Stockport and Lincoln conceding 2 in total - we'd be happy with those results. Wins at Barnsley and Bristol Rovers with a total score of 5-0 - what chance we'd do that? Lost 1-0 at Huddersfield, 2-1 at Brum in last minute, and at Reading, all top 6. Again, not sure where we'd have got better results? Nonsense to class this as an easy game. If we win, and its against 11 men, its one of our best results of the season to date. Fuck, they sound amazing How many places above us?
December 7, 20241 yr 4 minutes ago, Zico said: I doubt anyone thinks it's an easy game because we've not beaten them in our last eight meetings and 10 years since we did But more than ever it's one we should be looking to win if we're serious about promotion, when you consider we're at home and their form and position Fair enough but I'm not fooled by their position, in the respect that 1. their away form is decent given they have had an unusually difficult set of fixtures 2. only Wrexham have conceded less than their total of 16, so they will be more difficult to break down than anyone we've scored against this season. Any goal, for or against, is going to be massive, this isn't going to be a 5-2 like Reading or an end to end open game like Blackpool. 1-0 to us hopefully 🤞
December 7, 20241 yr 20 minutes ago, gonzo said: Needs to be an atmosphere like the Barnsley playoff. Won't be though We need some folded card and a will to smack the twat on our open hand to beat these fuckers. Edited December 7, 20241 yr by Barnstoneworth White Pissed
December 7, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, Casino said: Fuck, they sound amazing How many places above us? I'm just offering an opinion, as you know, that it isn't an "easy" game. How many games have they lost 4-0 or 5-0? Two less than us. If you think its easy, great, I'll be buzzing when we get our 3rd after an hour, and I promise I'll come on here and say I was wrong. I think what you're saying is not winning is totally unacceptable because they're shit. I'm saying its no different to 90% of other games, it will be hard work.
December 7, 20241 yr They have obviously struggled to score goals but conceded far fewer than us. Been in a lot of tight, arm wrestle sorts of games. All the more important to start well and score first. We do that and we win Give a goal start to these and it could be a long afternoon. Not a 0-3 or 0-4 by any means but a frustrating 0-1.
December 7, 20241 yr Like last season they will start with niggling fouls that won’t get punished and the first pull back we get a yellow card We have to be better than the last few games or we lose this one. like many have said we need to start well and score early; then no sitting back
December 7, 20241 yr 24 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said: I'm just offering an opinion, as you know, that it isn't an "easy" game. How many games have they lost 4-0 or 5-0? Two less than us. If you think its easy, great, I'll be buzzing when we get our 3rd after an hour, and I promise I'll come on here and say I was wrong. I think what you're saying is not winning is totally unacceptable because they're shit. I'm saying its no different to 90% of other games, it will be hard work. The point im making is we are all less than happy with the season so far but theyd swap in a heartbeat, yet youre making a case for em All im saying is theyre a bottom end team, the type we can generally beat even when we are shit I expect we will win
December 7, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, victor meldrew said: What we need is a team with testicles But all we have is Tess Daly.
December 7, 20241 yr Any win will do and in the magnitude of this game, that would be huge. the division isn’t great, we need to keep holding on until injured players return and the transfer window opens. We will also gave another decent run
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