Crawley Town (H)

[CambridgeBWFC]

1 hour ago, Arrested development said:

So firstly, of the top of my head, one of his assists was crawley away where Mcatee smashed that one in the top corner. He played a simple pass to Mcatee , but that was all Mcatee. His other that I can remember was Northampton away, again for Mcatee, early ball across. Can't remember his other one. Point being both of these were from relatively deep positions, positions you would find yourself in as wing back. 

If were playing 4 at the back, he's being asked to do something different as an attacking midfielder wide player. He's not getting the ball In deep positions anymore, he's getting it in the final third.

He's not got the profile to play as an attacking midfielder. Hes not quick enough to beat a player with pace alone. Hes no right foot which makes him easier to defend against. He's weak, very weak. I can't remember him consistently putting in amazing balls as wing back. I honestly can't remember that many. There is nothing he's shown with us that to me shows he's been good enough to operate as a creative attacking midfielder. 

JDC has 5 assists and he gets more shit than most Bolton players and he's fucking miles better than Schon. Some of the shit JDC gets on here is laughable.

There no hatred, sure he's a nice bloke, but I think he's shit.

 

 

I also don't understand the shit JDC gets, but I think that is the same as your position on Schön. He was more of an attacking player when we signed him and was asked to do a more defensive role, which he has done well. Yesterday was the first time we have seen him with 4 at the back and in a more advanced position and he was played on his least favourite side. I would add his coming infield though did create a lot of the space on the outside for JDC.

[Johnnyrotten]

4 hours ago, desperado said:

And don’t forget Johnston, Sheehan, Randal, Lolos and Vic 😁

Someone said Sheehan didn't play well?🤔

Hard to argue with saying Schon, Randall, Lolos, Vic, McAtee weren't great isn't it?  Let's not have another "everyone played well, don't criticise anyone" thread just because we won, this site is better than that isn't it? It doesn't mean everyone has to agree.

#"scapegoat" 

[Johnnyrotten]

4 hours ago, Traf said:

We'd have lost that game 5-1 or 6-1 a month ago and if we had got back to 3-3 last month, we'd not have been pressing for a fourth.

Not even against 10 men with 12 minutes injury time? I'm struggling to agree with that, we had a couple of half decent come backs this season at home, admittedly not to the level of yesterday which is a once every couple of seasons comeback if you're lucky.

[desperado]

22 hours ago, kent_white said:

He did dick all for 101 of the 102 minutes. Albeit he did very well for his goal. 

 

22 hours ago, kent_white said:

I agree. He's lovely on the ball but very rarely actually affects the game in any way. And he didn't for the majority of the game today either. 

Not after a row like - realise we all see things different.  

 

6 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said:

Someone said Sheehan didn't play well?🤔

Hard to argue with saying Schon, Randall, Lolos, Vic, McAtee weren't great isn't it?  Let's not have another "everyone played well, don't criticise anyone" thread just because we won, this site is better than that isn't it? It doesn't mean everyone has to agree.

#"scapegoat" 

Aye Kent thought Sheehan was largely ineffectual 😂

Like we always say, opinions and different ways to appraise the game and players.

I’ve nailed my colours to the mast. While players affected the game in different ways positively and negatively (and all Is good to debate) I find it mental that we have nearly the whole side from one poster or another on the “not good enough pile”

 

[Casino]

Anyway, ive watched the extended highlights

After their third, its the build up to the free kick for our second

Their mon who decides to sit down is in shot for most of the time

At no point could he have been injured

[Ani]

3 hours ago, desperado said:

You’re just setting up the next moan aren’t you 😂

Now we’ve had almost the whole team criticised let’s start on those not there 🤣

Can we just get it all out in one post

- he doesn’t get back in

- he’s overrated

- he can’t tackle

- he runs funny

- he gives the ball away

- he gets too many yellows 

- he’s been worse since being captain

- we should have let him go to Bristol

- he has fireworks in his pants.

That cover it? 😂

Nah I like him. Do not see how Sheehan and Morley do not have 2 spots nailed down. 

[Ani]

3 hours ago, Kane57 said:

He was better than he had been, but that's a low bar 

Imagine being so entrenched in your view you can not acknowledge a player had a great game. 
 

[Ani]

6 minutes ago, Casino said:

Anyway, ive watched the extended highlights

After their third, its the build up to the free kick for our second

Their mon who decides to sit down is in shot for most of the time

At no point could he have been injured

Their manager moaning did not stop for injuries , that lad gets up and moans at ref. You would think with such a nasty injury he would been off in an ambulance 

[desperado]

3 minutes ago, Ani said:

Nah I like him. Do not see how Sheehan and Morley do not have 2 spots nailed down. 

I’m with you. Sheehan and Morley on yesterday’s form get picked ahead of all other midfielders, certainly for Shrewsbury next week. Think we’ll see something different Tuesday

[Casino]

4 minutes ago, Ani said:

Imagine being so entrenched in your view you can not acknowledge a player had a great game. 
 

For me, if its 2 at the back, its johnston and toal...purely base on johnstone post evatt

If its 3, they go either side of forrester

Has anybody suggested forrester for the campo role

 

[Kane57]

1 hour ago, Ani said:

Imagine being so entrenched in your view you can not acknowledge a player had a great game. 
 

I just did 👍

[woolli]

3 hours ago, CumbrianWhite said:

I thought JDC could have potentially done better on the second yesterday but other than that he was superb.

I don’t think he helps himself with his whinging and arm waving but on his day he’s one of the best right backs in the league. 

He doesnt  play right back does he? His positional sense is fuckin poor. Think it was the 2nd goal he went missing, didnt track back, blames every other fucker, waving his arms, cant tackle, IMO hes very fuckin poor, and, lets be honest, not actually a marquee signing from Tranmere!

[Tonge moor green jacket]

One of their goals saw Murphy jogging back a touch.

Simply plenty of work to do on that side of our game.

[woolli]

11 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

One of their goals saw Murphy jogging back a touch.

Simply plenty of work to do on that side of our game.

Watched the Brummies against Newcastle, their work rate compared to ours was unreal, all the lot of them. We are fuckin way behind them. Its not all about money, its about fitness and commitment.

[FrancisFogarty]

Their manager reckons they don’t get the rub of the green though.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

37 minutes ago, woolli said:

Watched the Brummies against Newcastle, their work rate compared to ours was unreal, all the lot of them. We are fuckin way behind them. Its not all about money, its about fitness and commitment.

It is. 

I would say though that at the moment, they have momentum, belief etc. That goes a hell of a long way in boosting physical effort. All in it together, and a high level of camaraderie. 

If SS can get us on a run, then we could approach something similar. 

Hopefully, the players will be able to see his flexibility and nous, and take confidence in him, and therefore themselves. 

[wakey]

For excitement, drama, the right end result and the timing of it, the second half yesterday was about as good as you could get.

I couldn't give a flying fuck who it was we played.

And I certainly couldn't give a flying fuck if someone ran a bit slower than he should have at some point.

[Rival Son]

3 hours ago, Casino said:

For me, if its 2 at the back, its johnston and toal...purely base on johnstone post evatt

 

For me, based on recent form, including yesterday, Toal has to earn the right to take a spot off Forrester and Johnston.

[Eagle85]

Still buzzing from yesterday. Absolute disbelief at what I saw, especially after that first half. Nowt better than doing that to such a team of shithouses.

 

Lots of positives despite the shaky defence, Murphy looked good, thought DC was great and being a hard working full back will make best use of his engine with late overlapping runs behind a wide man, rather than being a WB. Sheehan and Tutu were unreal. Best of all was scoring 4 without having a goal scorer on the pitch .

Mcatee and Randall a bit of worry, time for em to improve though, concerned how Mcatee seems to have constant disagreements with players about runs and passes during the game, the fact that this seems to happen with multiple other players tells me it’s a him problem. 
 

Old fella in west stand near me shouting “come on Osei” every time he picked up the ball 2nd half, then injury time Matete gets it in same position. I’m thinking don’t say it, dont say it….he said it 😂

 

Edited February 9, 2025 by Eagle85

[ianofcleveleys]

1 hour ago, woolli said:

Watched the Brummies against Newcastle, their work rate compared to ours was unreal, all the lot of them. We are fuckin way behind them. Its not all about money, its about fitness and commitment.

I watched Brum v Wrexham the other week, the physical commitment and energy was off the scale. We look like Spurs by comparison. 

Hopefully SS can, as JD did to be fair, galvanised them into the level of collective commitment that's necessary, week in week our, in this League for the run-in. 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

3 minutes ago, ianofcleveleys said:

I watched Brum v Wrexham the other week, the physical commitment and energy was off the scale. We look like Spurs by comparison. 

Hopefully SS can, as JD did to be fair, galvanised them into the level of collective commitment that's necessary, week in week our, in this League for the run-in. 

That's all we can hope for now.

I don't belive we will achieve that with continued use of a midfield devoid of physical presence- those above us have it- but we'll have to see.

[superjohnmcginlay]

3 minutes ago, ianofcleveleys said:

 

Hopefully SS can, as JD did to be fair, galvanised them into the level of collective commitment that's necessary, week in week out, in this League for the run-in. 

He did that very thing yesterday. I’d say all the performances post Evatt have been exactly that and a show of commitment and fight. 
 

One of the pleasing things which maybe highlights it yesterday was when the keeper lobbed that ball into the stands and Vic was over to him, caused a few to get involved. 

[Casino]

45 minutes ago, Rival Son said:

For me, based on recent form, including yesterday, Toal has to earn the right to take a spot off Forrester and Johnston.

We become very small if we do that

And recent form, hasnt toal only played 2 games?

Hes also a threat in the other box

So, if fit and if its 2, its toal plus another

Johnston is left footed and imo the best of the 3 post evatt

Might just be easier to play all 3

 

[Wanderlust]

They all have to perform. SS is rotating a bit and whether that’s horses for courses or he’s still sussing them out we just don’t know, 

[Stig]

11 hours ago, Ani said:

Watching back the long highlights the new lad from Newcastle is at fault for all 3. The first one a short ball out of defence , second the guy just comes inside him and the third he loses ball in their half. 
 

So we can either just ignore it, tell everyone he is shit or accept there were lots of mistakes yesterday and acknowledge generally he looked good especially going forward , clearly something to build on. 

Blaming Murphy for any of the goals seems crazy. Players misplace passes but unless they put a player directly through I wouldn't way they've caused a goal because there should be enough cover if the team is playing sensibly.

The goals Crawley scored yesterday were team defensive issues I'm hoping SS can sort out.