First home match for SS and his team.

It will be interesting to see what if any changes are made by SS after he has had a week to work with the players.

Crawley gave Wrexham a game on Saturday and were only beaten by a 95th minute winner. Although they are in the bottom four it won’t be as easy as some folk think or hope it will be.

A scrappy 3-2 victory 

13 minutes ago, Casino said:

We have just beat a shit team that we really should beat

But we have beaten em in a thriller from 3 1 down and its followed by a day of picking out issues

Just enjoy it

 

Fwiw, i wanted evatt to put morley to CB v Cambridge

So while SS did and full marks for it, its such an obvious move when teams are sitting back

It was actually more risky yesterday, as they had pace

Maybe we had nowt to lose, but a great decision by SS

People enjoyed it. I know we all had a great time following the game. it doesn't mean you have to ignore / discuss things that were not ideal. that is the point of football. 

 

Just now, 1969 said:

Not seen the interview yet but fair enough 

Yeah he was asked about the goal he scored and he said something along the lines of needing to atone for giving the first away.

@Cheese seems to post a lot of the Wanderers TV stuff, maybe he has a link to it.

46 minutes ago, Cheese said:

He did exactly that, several times, less than 24 hours ago. Absolutely nothing wrong with him. You just need someone to vent your innate negativity towards.

Simply not true though is it? He has absolutely zero end product. He didn’t look a threat once yesterday. He can’t shoot, can’t pass, can’t cross and struggles physically. Theres no way he plays in a back 4 either. 

The Lad gives his all so can’t knock his work ethic but we’ve paid nearly £1 million for him.. not his fault but we’ve been robbed blind. 

Tutu is 10 times the threat and has nailed down the left wing position. That wing play yesterday was comfortably the best we’ve seen since Dapo and it was a breath of fresh air. 

2 hours ago, CambridgeBWFC said:

On yesterday's performance Toal shouldn't be in our defence 

Hopefully he won't be judged on one game.

Taking Santos out of the equation as he'll be off in the summer, Toal is our best player that plays in defence.  Not saying he's the best "defender", but his all round game (passing, heading both defensively and offensively, pace, reading the game, tackling), he's the best we have IMO.

39 minutes ago, Big E said:

Apparently he’s doing an interview with the Botlon News. A bit of information may help folk be less wary of it. 
 

I don’t think he’s done a bad job on signings. Not sold on Randall yet but I won’t say this as I don’t want my head to be bitten off. 

If there's a criticism to be made, it's that he's too often taken a risk on players with a history of injuries and the gamble has backfired

1 hour ago, Kane57 said:

Thought Murphy was really poor tbf, though not anywhere near as bad as Toal

I didn't think either were poor 😀  But we all see things differently,  and I'm not inclined to watch it back to check, just gut instinct on general play.

What I would say about Murphy is he's one of the most laid back players I've seen, that can be a quality as well as a bit of a fault - if Schon always seems up for the battle, tuned in, desperate to impress, giving 100%, Murphy looks like he's not that fussed either way.  But that can mean he plays with great composure and he doesn't get wound up or concerned if he makes a bad pass.  Not unlike Ashworth last season - decent passer, OK going forward and can win a header.

1 hour ago, Kane57 said:

That's an opinion, not a fact 

How do you think he played at Huddersfield ? 

 

36 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said:

Hopefully he won't be judged on one game.

Taking Santos out of the equation as he'll be off in the summer, Toal is our best player that plays in defence.  Not saying he's the best "defender", but his all round game (passing, heading both defensively and offensively, pace, reading the game, tackling), he's the best we have IMO.

Toal is also coming back from injury and playing alongside players he has hardly played with at all.

I thought the midfield 2 of Sheehan and Morley both had great games, Tutu great but the balance was quite right and this left our defence exposed at times, happy it will improve though. Interesting where the captain fits in when back. 

1 hour ago, Arrested development said:

Opinions are like arseholes, everyone has one. He's no better than Randall Williams, and id argue worse because at least Randall was quick. I'm sure he's a nice lad who works really hard, but we need better than him in that position. He's been a bad signing .

 

 

It's not an "opinion" to claim he hasn't beaten a single man all season. It's just utter bollocks.

Edited February 9, 20251 yr by Cheese

14 minutes ago, Ani said:

How do you think he played at Huddersfield ? 

He was better than he had been, but that's a low bar 

1 minute ago, Cheese said:

It's not an "opinion" to claim he hasn't beaten a single man all season. It's just utter bollocks.

Show me the footage. Find some footage. Because I can easy get you some footage of him coming inside all day long. 

19 minutes ago, Ani said:

Interesting where the captain fits in when back. 

You’re just setting up the next moan aren’t you 😂

Now we’ve had almost the whole team criticised let’s start on those not there 🤣

Can we just get it all out in one post

- he doesn’t get back in

- he’s overrated

- he can’t tackle

- he runs funny

- he gives the ball away

- he gets too many yellows 

- he’s been worse since being captain

- we should have let him go to Bristol

- he has fireworks in his pants.

That cover it? 😂

Edited February 9, 20251 yr by desperado
Just having a laugh Ani by the way. 😉

1 minute ago, Arrested development said:

Show me the footage. Find some footage. Because I can easy get you some footage of him coming inside all day long. 

Go on then. Post your easy-to-get compilation, and I'll get back to you later.

4 hours ago, gonzo said:

Schon might have been a bit ineffective yesterday but christ he wasn't that bad was he?

I think he's been alright this season tbf. 

Give 100% and is always running at folk.

Not much more you can ask from a player signed from the Hungarian second division really.

 

I've no problem with him, asked to do something different yesterday that he isn't really suited to but did his best. Had been one of the very few bright spots in Evatt's latter days

4 hours ago, gonzo said:

Schon might have been a bit ineffective yesterday but christ he wasn't that bad was he?

I think he's been alright this season tbf. 

Give 100% and is always running at folk.

Not much more you can ask from a player signed from the Hungarian second division really.

 

I've no problem with him, asked to do something different yesterday that he isn't really suited to but did his best. Had been one of the very few bright spots in Evatt's latter days

1 hour ago, Traf said:

We'd have lost that game 5-1 or 6-1 a month ago and if we had got back to 3-3 last month, we'd not have been pressing for a fourth.

THIS 

said the same to SiL 

Yesterday

4 minutes ago, little whitt said:

THIS 

said the same to SiL 

Yesterday

And the atmosphere would have been terrible for the three thousand who’d stayed to the end.

2 hours ago, Arrested development said:

Cop out. I don't care what division he came from. It's irrelevant. He's here now. Nobody is questioning his effort. It's his output. He's not good enough to be an attacking midfielder. Hes not strong enough or quick enough. People say he's hampered by playing on the right. Good wingers/attacking mids can play on either side. Never once this entire season have I seen go past a player one on one. Cogley was a better attacking threat on the right yesterday than he was. 

He's a weird player to judge. His only position he can play is wing back. He's too small to play LB and would get picked on by diagonal balls. Hes flat out not good enough to be a winger/attacking midfielder. 

And it's not about scapegoating or any of that other bollocks that people say. If we are going 4 at the back, he doesn't fit in to the team. 

His output is 1 goal and 3 assists this season. He is joint 3rd on assists with Collins, Sheehan and JDC are joint 1st on 5 each. 

His passing is decent, he can put a nice ball into the box and whilst not lightening quick he isn't slow. He is a bit short and lightweight but he doesn't shy away from getting stuck in. 

I just don't get the hatred, he is limited but a decent league 1 player. 

17 minutes ago, CambridgeBWFC said:

His output is 1 goal and 3 assists this season. He is joint 3rd on assists with Collins, Sheehan and JDC are joint 1st on 5 each. 

His passing is decent, he can put a nice ball into the box and whilst not lightening quick he isn't slow. He is a bit short and lightweight but he doesn't shy away from getting stuck in. 

I just don't get the hatred, he is limited but a decent league 1 player. 

So firstly, of the top of my head, one of his assists was crawley away where Mcatee smashed that one in the top corner. He played a simple pass to Mcatee , but that was all Mcatee. His other that I can remember was Northampton away, again for Mcatee, early ball across. Can't remember his other one. Point being both of these were from relatively deep positions, positions you would find yourself in as wing back. 

If were playing 4 at the back, he's being asked to do something different as an attacking midfielder wide player. He's not getting the ball In deep positions anymore, he's getting it in the final third.

He's not got the profile to play as an attacking midfielder. Hes not quick enough to beat a player with pace alone. Hes no right foot which makes him easier to defend against. He's weak, very weak. I can't remember him consistently putting in amazing balls as wing back. I honestly can't remember that many. There is nothing he's shown with us that to me shows he's been good enough to operate as a creative attacking midfielder. 

JDC has 5 assists and he gets more shit than most Bolton players and he's fucking miles better than Schon. Some of the shit JDC gets on here is laughable.

There no hatred, sure he's a nice bloke, but I think he's shit.

 

 

Edited February 9, 20251 yr by Arrested development

I wouldn't go as far as shit, but I'm definitely in the camp that thinks he's not as good as some people think he is so far

He never lacks for effort but he doesn't have either the pace or the physicality to beat his opposing number regularly like JOT does, and there's been a couple of instances where his temparament has almost got him and us in trouble (something he and JOT have in common, to be fair)

8 minutes ago, Arrested development said:

So firstly, of the top of my head, one of his assists was crawley away where Mcatee smashed that one in the top corner. He played a simple pass to Mcatee , but that was all Mcatee. His other that I can remember was Northampton away, again for Mcatee, early ball across. Can't remember his other one. Point being both of these were from relatively deep positions, positions you would find yourself in as wing back. 

If were playing 4 at the back, he's being asked to do something different as an attacking midfielder wide player. He's not getting the ball In deep positions anymore, he's getting it in the final third.

He's not got the profile to play as an attacking midfielder. Hes not quick enough to beat a player with pace alone. Hes no right foot which makes him easier to defend against. He's weak, very weak. I can't remember him consistently putting in amazing balls as wing back. I honestly can't remember that many. There is nothing he's shown with us that to me shows he's been good enough to operate as a creative attacking midfielder. 

JDC has 5 assists and he gets more shit than most Bolton players and he's fucking miles better than Schon. Some of the shit JDC gets on here is laughable.

There no hatred, sure he's a nice bloke, but I think he's shit.

 

 

I thought JDC could have potentially done better on the second yesterday but other than that he was superb.

I don’t think he helps himself with his whinging and arm waving but on his day he’s one of the best right backs in the league. 

Schon wasn't shit yesterday.

He isn't having a shit season.

He isn't a shit signing.

1 hour ago, Arrested development said:

He's not got the profile to play as an attacking midfielder.

Why does his profile for the national team say this then?

1 hour ago, Arrested development said:

So firstly, of the top of my head, one of his assists was crawley away where Mcatee smashed that one in the top corner. He played a simple pass to Mcatee , but that was all Mcatee. His other that I can remember was Northampton away, again for Mcatee, early ball across. Can't remember his other one. Point being both of these were from relatively deep positions, positions you would find yourself in as wing back. 

If were playing 4 at the back, he's being asked to do something different as an attacking midfielder wide player. He's not getting the ball In deep positions anymore, he's getting it in the final third.

He's not got the profile to play as an attacking midfielder. Hes not quick enough to beat a player with pace alone. Hes no right foot which makes him easier to defend against. He's weak, very weak. I can't remember him consistently putting in amazing balls as wing back. I honestly can't remember that many. There is nothing he's shown with us that to me shows he's been good enough to operate as a creative attacking midfielder. 

JDC has 5 assists and he gets more shit than most Bolton players and he's fucking miles better than Schon. Some of the shit JDC gets on here is laughable.

There no hatred, sure he's a nice bloke, but I think he's shit.

 

 

I also don't understand the shit JDC gets, but I think that is the same as your position on Schön. He was more of an attacking player when we signed him and was asked to do a more defensive role, which he has done well. Yesterday was the first time we have seen him with 4 at the back and in a more advanced position and he was played on his least favourite side. I would add his coming infield though did create a lot of the space on the outside for JDC.