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Just a recommendation which I've mentioned before 

Watch Bitter Lake by Adam Curtis 

It's the closest explanation I've seen to our relatively modern fucked up world

3 minutes ago, Marc505 said:

Exactly. Not one where regime change is one of the explicitly stated goals, anyway.

Which is why I'm worried that they've (USA) gone into this because theyve started to get drunk on the idea of their own power projection.

We know how self-aware they are about memes, shit posting and the power of social media etc... and I genuinely think one of their prime motivators is "fuck around, find out". Nothing more, nothing less.

"Well we took Maduro out of Venezuela, and that was an inconsequential piece of piss...."

6 minutes ago, Marc505 said:

Exactly. Not one where regime change is one of the explicitly stated goals, anyway.

Which is why I'm worried that they've (USA) gone into this because theyve started to get drunk on the idea of their own power projection.

We know how self-aware they are about memes, shit posting and the power of social media etc... and I genuinely think one of their prime motivators is "fuck around, find out". Nothing more, nothing less.

It's interesting that Trump curiously made no mention of encouraging the Iranian protestors to rise up today, and I think Hegseth went even further in stating the strikes are not about regime change

Someone must've had a word

10 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

I have read that Israel went for it on their own and effectively took the US along with them due to circumstance. No idea if that is true though.

Getting rid of the evil head shed is obviously good but if there's no coherent plan then maybe not so much. Plus it would seem contingency plans within Iran are for lower officers to fire at will which makes it more difficult to contain.

Fingers crossed those F22's locate plenty more fire locations and the rest can clear them up sharpish.

Tactically and hardware wise I'm not concerned (though for the first time I can ever remember they're talking about US munition stocks potentially running out).

They can go scud hunting, or the equivalent, till the cows come home, lay waste to everything theyve got, its the geopolitical side of it thats the issue.

I dont say it lightly but this is the first time I've ever had an almost existential worry about a foreign conflict.

16 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

I have read that Israel went for it on their own and effectively took the US along with them due to circumstance. No idea if that is true though.

 

Meanwhile they continue to ethnically cleanse the West Bank faster than ever

4 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

It's interesting that Trump curiously made no mention of encouraging the Iranian protestors to rise up today, and I think Hegseth went even further in stating the strikes are not about regime change

Someone must've had a word

Or, and I'm not joking, they've forgotten about that bit.

6 minutes ago, Cheese said:

"Well we took Maduro out of Venezuela, and that was an inconsequential piece of piss...."

Mission Accomplished 

1 minute ago, Marc505 said:

Tactically and hardware wise I'm not concerned (though for the first time I can ever remember they're talking about US munition stocks potentially running out).

They can go scud hunting, or the equivalent, till the cows come home, lay waste to everything theyve got, its the geopolitical side of it thats the issue.

I dont say it lightly but this is the first time I've ever had an almost existential worry about a foreign conflict.

It does smell like the tinder of WW3, and it won't take much to ignite it further.

Disruptors just be disruptin’

Bolty will be along soon to tell us all what the play is, and why it’s all going according to plan.

13 minutes ago, Sweep said:

We must be in the high 20s early 30s 

7 minutes ago, Cheese said:

It does smell like the tinder of WW3, and it won't take much to ignite it further.

I think that is a little premature at the moment.

I have also read that this plays really badly for Russia in that their allies in Syria, Venezuela and now Iran have been seriously curtailed. The world sees absolutely nothing from Moscow in any kind of support for their so called partners.

1 minute ago, Winchester White said:

I think that is a little premature at the moment.

I have also read that this plays really badly for Russia in that their allies in Syria, Venezuela and now Iran have been seriously curtailed. The world sees absolutely nothing from Moscow in any kind of support for their so called partners.

Obviously, as Russia are getting pumped in Ukraine and their economy is on the brink of collapse. Let's hope China and/or India don't get their balls tickled. All it takes is one nutter to do a Gavrilo Princip.

12 minutes ago, Spider said:

Disruptors just be disruptin’

Bolty will be along soon to tell us all what the play is, and why it’s all going according to plan.

Epic Fury 

2 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Obviously, as Russia are getting pumped in Ukraine and their economy is on the brink of collapse. Let's hope China and/or India don't get their balls tickled. All it takes is one nutter to do a Gavrilo Princip.

Would it really surprise anyone if, under the present conditions, "we" opted for the tactical nukes before the other side did.

4 minutes ago, Marc505 said:

Would it really surprise anyone if, under the present conditions, "we" opted for the tactical nukes before the other side did.

It wouldn't surprise me if Israel did.

20 minutes ago, royal white said:

We must be in the high 20s early 30s 

Indeed, we generally follow what the US do, we're no angels

5 minutes ago, Sweep said:

Indeed, we generally follow what the US do, we're no angels

But now we are cowards instead.

1 hour ago, Marc505 said:

I want someone to put that question directly to Trump, or that lunatic Hesgeth.

Secretary of War, my word.

We all need to chill.  With an incontinent president and an alcoholic secretary of war things are going to pan out just fine.  I’m sure it’s all going to plan. 

As an aside

always lovely to see more of Yalda Hakim presenting on Sky News 😍

1 hour ago, Cheese said:

Yes, I'm sure the fellas you go walking with are all elite Marines who only ever get called up for a 1 month A-Team style job.

More likely they go on a trip to Benidorm and don't invite Dimron because he spends all day waffling about construction sites and Soviet Union.

34 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Obviously, as Russia are getting pumped in Ukraine and their economy is on the brink of collapse. Let's hope China and/or India don't get their balls tickled. All it takes is one nutter to do a Gavrilo Princip.

The India - UK and India - EU trade deals have seen them soften their solidarity with Russia recently. Another bit of grown up work done by the adults on this side of the Atlantic. 
 

The India - EU one could actually be the mother of all deals. Potentially 25% of the Worlds GDP and 30% of Global trade. 
 

India won’t throw that away for a bit of fossil fuel and some spare kalashnikov’s

25 minutes ago, gonzo said:

More likely they go on a trip to Benidorm and don't invite Dimron because he spends all day waffling about construction sites and Soviet Union.

It is very funny, the stuff that compulsive bullshitters come out with. Many years ago, a bloke in my local swore blind he was a Marine and had shot an IRA terrorist in a pub in Preston in the 90's, but it was all covered up so the public wouldn't panic. Turned out he was a dog trainer in the Navy for a few months before being discharged for being a drug addict. Superb entertainment, but I wouldn't trust him to look after 50p.

Edited March 2Mar 2 by Cheese

1 minute ago, Cheese said:

It is very funny, the stuff that compulsive bullshitters come out with. Many years ago, a bloke in my local swore blind he was a Marine and had shot an IRA terrorist in a pub in Preston in the 90's, but it was all covered up so the public wouldn't panic. Turned out he was a dog trainer in the Navy for a few months before being discharged for being a drug addict.

He probably just walked the puppies at the guide dog training centre.

On 17/02/2026 at 19:54, Marc505 said:

The tankers are the ones to follow on FR24 they're usually a giveaway. All this stuff on the move last few days plus the carriers and whatever is already based over there plus the long range bombers... starting to look a bit inevitable this.

5 US stratotankers and a British Voyager currently hanging around Isreal.

Edited March 2Mar 2 by Jol_BWFC