No tags, links or clips by myself

Just a recommendation which I've mentioned before 

Watch Bitter Lake by Adam Curtis 

It's the closest explanation I've seen to our relatively modern fucked up world

17 minutes ago, Jol_BWFC said:

5 US stratotankers and a British Voyager currently hanging around Isreal.

I've read there's some RAF/RN F-35's in the mix with that lot, possibly a combat debut for them.

F-35 gets major grief from people for how disastrous its development was but its a seriously capable machine, and loads of its capabilities still apparently a secret.

14 minutes ago, Marc505 said:

I've read there's some RAF/RN F-35's in the mix with that lot, possibly a combat debut for them.

F-35 gets major grief from people for how disastrous its development was but its a seriously capable machine, and loads of its capabilities still apparently a secret.

 

 

And just read from an account that can track messages sent to aircraft text message systems, someone has messaged the RAF tanker "just for awareness you are currently showing on Flight Radar"!

 

so

Saturday

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2026/02/28/trump-iran-war-regime-change-freedom/

Trump: ‘Freedom’ for Iran is goal of ‘major military operation’
The president spoke to The Washington Post early Saturday after announcing that the U.S. had begun striking Iran to bring about regime change.

 

Tuesday

https://thehill.com/policy/defense/5762761-hegeseth-caine-iran-pentagon-briefing/

Though Trump has urged the Iranian people to topple their leaders, the Pentagon chief said the U.S. goal in Iran is not regime change like it was in Iraq and Afghanistan. 

so

it sounds like they want to destroy their ballistic missiles, but killed the leaders in the process

and if it's not about regime change, it sounds to me like they're going to leave it as is, with another power vacuum waiting to be filled

we'll see I guess

11 hours ago, Sweep said:

They're going to go down

Could have stopped there

7 hours ago, kent_white said:

They'll be blaming the Government in a couple of months when inflation shoots up too. 

Apart from Pete Hesgeth, Nehenyahu and the Don saying so. Have we actually got any evidence that Iran were close to developing anywhere. 

Because sure as shit they'll be accelerating whatever programme they did or didn't have right now. 

Do you want evidence of Iranian state sponsored terrorist atrocities over the last few decades?

More than enough justification to exterminate their cuntish 'leaders' and anyone who supports them as far as I am concerned. 

6 hours ago, Sweep said:

I know we were told not too long ago that their nuclear program had been totally obliterated, and they'd been set back decades. Unless that wasn't true of course... 

Some people have absolutely no vision beyond absolutely straight ahead. The nuclear issue is merely a premise for absolutely necessary regime change. You were told this when the military build up started.

6 hours ago, Marc505 said:

I want someone to put that question directly to Trump, or that lunatic Hesgeth.

Secretary of War, my word.

I rest my case m'lud.

6 hours ago, mickbrown said:

Why are folk on here so keen to see British servicemen killed?

It’s fucking weird. 

No one is and you know it. So keen to see the worlds biggest sponsor of terrorism obliterated. Oh yes.

6 hours ago, Marc505 said:

Epic Fury 

Don't be as thick as Spider FFS.

He still rates Starmer.

8 hours ago, Spider said:

As an aside

always lovely to see more of Yalda Hakim presenting on Sky News 😍

Rules! I know there's a war on but ffs. Gone to the dogs this place etc

3 hours ago, bolty58 said:

Don't be as thick as Spider FFS.

He still rates Starmer.

I'll try not to be, we'll all continue to bow down to your pseudo-intellectualism on this and every other subject instead.

Of course, this is all part of a meticulously thought out masterplan by a group of brilliant strategists, how silly of us.

4 hours ago, bolty58 said:

No one is and you know it. So keen to see the worlds biggest sponsor of terrorism obliterated. Oh yes.

So leave the Yanks to it. Why drag our lads into it?

Like I said, it’s fucking weird. 

10 hours ago, Marc505 said:

I've read there's some RAF/RN F-35's in the mix with that lot, possibly a combat debut for them.

F-35 gets major grief from people for how disastrous its development was but its a seriously capable machine, and loads of its capabilities still apparently a secret.

I saw a number of those stratotankers were in the air, and some over Jordan.

One RAF support aircraft too.

One BA (iirc) commercial aircraft heading from and to Heathrow too.

It has recently landed back.

Will need a fair few more.

1 hour ago, mickbrown said:

So leave the Yanks to it. Why drag our lads into it?

Like I said, it’s fucking weird. 

Why is it?

That terrorism is here, on our streets.

In various guises.

Even if it is felt we've haven't can't offer much in terms of offensive effort, then having naval cover as protection should be the minimum.

That terrorism has seen many thousands killed internally. 

That terrorism is and has been missiles capable of striking Europe, and the will to use them.

What on earth is weird about wanting to stop that, and protect others and ourselves?

Anything else is fingers in the ears indifference at best, and appeasement at worst.

6 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Why is it?

That terrorism is here, on our streets.

In various guises.

Even if it is felt we've haven't can't offer much in terms of offensive effort, then having naval cover as protection should be the minimum.

That terrorism has seen many thousands killed internally. 

That terrorism is and has been missiles capable of striking Europe, and the will to use them.

What on earth is weird about wanting to stop that, and protect others and ourselves?

Anything else is fingers in the ears indifference at best, and appeasement at worst.

Take it you’re encouraging your lad to join up then?

Or it’s just others folks kids who should be killed?

Like I said, it’s fucking weird. 

12 hours ago, Spider said:

As an aside

always lovely to see more of Yalda Hakim presenting on Sky News 😍

The lovely Yalda! I reckon her growler probably favvers what’s left on the bedroom carpet when you finally chuck out that old bed. 
Outstanding! 😍

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48 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Why is it?

That terrorism is here, on our streets.

In various guises.

Even if it is felt we've haven't can't offer much in terms of offensive effort, then having naval cover as protection should be the minimum.

That terrorism has seen many thousands killed internally. 

That terrorism is and has been missiles capable of striking Europe, and the will to use them.

What on earth is weird about wanting to stop that, and protect others and ourselves?

Anything else is fingers in the ears indifference at best, and appeasement at worst.

 

On 14/06/2025 at 08:25, Tonge moor green jacket said:

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1156216966273874&vanity=gulftimes

There is no chance we would play an aggressive role in a conflict between Israel and Iran.

Maybe some assistance defensively, to counter incoming missiles, as we have done before.

Such a move would have to go before parliament (as with Syrian and ISIS) and I don't see the PM et al even wanting the uk to play a part, so it wouldn't even get as far as the house.

Even then, it wouldn't pass.

 

40 minutes ago, Cheese said:

 

 

He’s had a bit of a shocker on here the past few days

Screeching at folk being racist & cowards. 

 We don’t need to go to war with Iran to fight terrorism

 some might even argue such a war would make that situation worse

1 minute ago, London Wanderer said:

He’s had a bit of a shocker on here the past few days

Screeching at folk being racist & cowards. 

 We don’t need to go to war with Iran to fight terrorism

 some might even argue such a war would make that situation worse

Yeah but if we get that couple released from prison who shouldn't have been in Iran in the first place then its all good

Stop being so wet 

I mean excluding the clear collective amnesia that's occurring here.

Hopping straight into war with someone who's just done a bit of a genocide and another who will use anything as a distraction from ye olde Epstein files.

What could possibly go wrong? 🙂

 

Do people actually think the US is going for Iran because of Terrorism?

Actually?

Will UK troops going to Iran stop arena bombings and knife attacks on our shores? 

Will it fuck, it'd make it worse.

Just let the yanks twat the fuckers. They really don't need us.

If Russia decide to attack us I feel we'll need them

53 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Do people actually think the US is going for Iran because of Terrorism?

Actually?

Will UK troops going to Iran stop arena bombings and knife attacks on our shores? 

Will it fuck, it'd make it worse.

Just let the yanks twat the fuckers. They really don't need us.

Apparently 1.2m dollars has been made on bets as to when the strikes would happen 

Let's just sit this one out