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  • ZiggyStardust
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    Without Ritchie on the bench, we lose that.

  • Whitesince63
    Whitesince63

    Big shout out to the fans who travelled there today, never stopped singing all second half and were a massive lift after the idiots sending off. Well done guys. 👍

  • Dalby really puts in some effort to get in the box for the winner. 4 Plymouth players between him and goal here. 

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11 hours ago, Leyther_Matt said:

4/10 fishing attempt, it’s a good job I’m in a good mood 😉 

Was a good day for random chants. “Jack Bonham” to the “I’m horny” Mousse T tune sounds ridiculous and somehow turned in to a piece of genius. 

Bloke was singing that on his own absolutely trashed at Port Vale about 2 rows behind the goal just as they scored. Think it put Bonham off actually 😀

1 hour ago, Traf said:

It was like playing with 10 before McAtee got sent off, so taking Gale didn't actually affect our numbers.

I'd not shed a single tear if I never saw Gale in a Bolton shirt ever again.
Yeah, there's possibly a player there, but he's so bad.
He's quick - but only when he can be arsed, his decision making is poor as is his shooting generally (the odd one will fly in according the throw enough shit at a wall rule) and he's so timid. He offers no help/protection to the full back either.


 

Agree entirely.

He should've been a 100m runner for Barbados or summet.

Anyway less of the player slagging. 

Sam Dalby has been our signing of the season.

Proper line leader.

3 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Anyway less of the player slagging. 

Sam Dalby has been our signing of the season.

Proper line leader.

there were shades of SKD yesterday

4 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Anyway less of the player slagging. 

Sam Dalby has been our signing of the season.

Proper line leader.

Just watched the highlights again. As per @Anis post. There’s 4 players between him and the goal. Fucking brilliant effort to get there and “cause” the own goal. Hats off to him

2 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

The latter part of that is partly why Conway gets exposed.

Little protection, so when the full back does go forward, there is a hole to be exploited.

The first half Conway got caught out and it had fuck all to with anyone but himself. He might be one of our own but he had no business being so far forward when we were barely in their half. If Conway wasn't an academy product he would be under much more scrutiny. 

3 hours ago, RUREADY2ROLL said:

He tries; no doubting that. But he is simply shit and a liability 

Its all relative.  Its easy to say a player is a liability after they've been sent off and banned for 3 games, because there will be no opportunity to right the wrong for a few weeks.

Bonham was a liablity last week, so was Tutu (and Apter).  Things change, because the players who aren't liabilities this week still have their bad games to come, take your pick between GJ, Toal, Forino, EE, Gale, I could go on. 

If McAtee has a bad game, which is rare, he is treated differently to other players having a bad game, IMO.

Just back & still buzzing from, for me, the best performance of the season. Loads of contenders for MOTM......

Bonham....2 big saves in the 1st half & then safe, calm with great handling of the ball when we were under pressure in the 2nd. 10/10

Tutu......time we ( me included ) give him praise for his defensive improvement. Yesterday he reminded me a little of Gardner which is very high praise  10/10

Toal & Johnson were immense, blocking, tackling & heading like men possessed & Forino was just as good when he came on ( too good to be a sub ??? ) All 3 of them 10/10

Sheehan.....the heartbeat of the team, not just on the ball but all the unglamorous midfield stuff as well, tackling, blocking & picking up loose balls 10/10

Dalby.....even with 2 defenders wrestling him he won loads, was a constant threat to them & still going full pelt at the end 10/10

Burstow was really lively when he came on & with Dalby made sure we were never completely penned in, & all the others contributed.

Our fans.....should get an assist for the penalty, the hand ball was right bang in front of us & our appeal must have helped......i doubt we'd have got it at the other end !!

 

McAtee....I don't expect to see him in a Bolton shirt again.

43 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Anyway less of the player slagging. 

Sam Dalby has been our signing of the season.

Proper line leader.

Aye

6 minutes ago, Arrested development said:

The first half Conway got caught out and it had fuck all to with anyone but himself. He might be one of our own but he had no business being so far forward when we were barely in their half. If Conway wasn't an academy product he would be under much more scrutiny. 

As opposed to our own kids that usually get too much grief?

Nowt to do with it for me.

Of course he needs to improve, but he is doing exactly what SS requires of him.

He's effectively put a new signing into a situation whereby he leaves through his performance. 

If he was so problematic then SS would be changing him or dropping him.

As much as Gale can be a threat, if he is greedy with the ball, and largely comes inside, then MC has to overlap to stretch the defence.  He is very much a modern full back and does what his manager wants him to.

On that basis, his winger, and others will be expected to cover when they can, but Gale just doesn't.

I'm not as critical of the winger as others, but he clearly could up his work rate and help. 

He went off yesterday, and the team arguably improved, even with 10 men.

Conway and Johnson patrolling that area.

Looked a grim coach journey home for a few today. Few beaten souls and even broke down for a short while.

Hell on earth :D

2 minutes ago, desperado said:

Yesterday, SS was everything IE failed to be towards the end of his reign.

Flexible, pragmatic, adaptable, willing to sacrifice the ball to get a result, but doing it while keeping us with some attacking threat with 10 men. 

And doing all that without crying about how unlucky we were to have the omissions we had. 

He deserves a lot of credit for that victory yesterday.

He does indeed.

It's a funny one being a manager: there have been times this season when that pragmatism has seemed to have disappeared and we've looked a bit pants.

Other times he has made changes that simply haven't worked. (Port Vale)!

Still a young manager, and learning, but one characteristic should do well for him, and that is to still try and play a positive game.

As per his interview. 

A characteristic very much of SAF, who was one of the very best.

2 hours ago, Farnywhite said:

The only one of the loan I wouldn’t mind seeing next season ( dubbery a side ) would be possible Kenny is quickness off the mark for league one is good has something about. Him but obviously frustrating in front of goal but over a season could see him going on a good run of goals . That’s if we’re still league 1 

Yes he does have something about him - a bit of pace, a bit of skill, can cross a ball with either foot which we lost when Collins left.  Just hard to say he could go on a run of goals, as he doesn't seem to work the keeper or have decent efforts either.  In that respect a downgrade on Collins.  Both physically weak and disappear from games, if we could sign one for next season (in L1) I'd go with Collins currently as he creates as much as Kenny and is a guarantee of getting into double figures from open play.

9 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Looked a grim coach journey home for a few today. Few beaten souls and even broke down for a short while.

Hell on earth :D

We got the 8.30am train home 😴 

 

46 minutes ago, whiteboy said:

there were shades of SKD yesterday

Spotted you in Wetherspoons yesterday.

Theres been a few occasions this season where Dalby and SKD have been compared and (as long as we understand it’s a L1 version vs a Premiership version), it’s a very fair comparison. 

The thing for me with Dalby, which is unique to him alone in our squad at the minute, is that he is a 7-8/10 every week, sometimes a 9. It’s refreshing to see one of our players being consistent week in, week out.

If we had a few more players being that consistent, we’d be 2nd not 3rd. 

26 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said:

Its all relative.  Its easy to say a player is a liability after they've been sent off and banned for 3 games, because there will be no opportunity to right the wrong for a few weeks.

Bonham was a liablity last week, so was Tutu (and Apter).  Things change, because the players who aren't liabilities this week still have their bad games to come, take your pick between GJ, Toal, Forino, EE, Gale, I could go on. 

If McAtee has a bad game, which is rare, he is treated differently to other players having a bad game, IMO.

Fair play mate for keeping the same argument going 😂

I’ll give you some support too, so you’re not on your own. 😉

There are certain players who, for some fans, just have a black, permanent marker against them, which is just not getting removed, regardless of ANYTHING that they may or may not do in the future. 

Mcatee, Johnston & Sheehan are the ones who spring to mind. Looks like Gale is heading in that direction too.

They are definitely treated differently when they do something wrong/have a bad day.

And when they play well, the same folk don’t come along and say, fair play I may have it wrong, they’re just quiet until the next bad moment comes along.

But I agree with you, other than Dalby at the moment, they’re all inconsistent as fuck! 😂

I tried to back-track on Bonham yesterday. Because I’d given him grief previously. But fair play yesterday he was brilliant. 

I think we need to be a bit more tolerant of all our inconsistent players. 

29 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

As opposed to our own kids that usually get too much grief?

Nowt to do with it for me.

Of course he needs to improve, but he is doing exactly what SS requires of him.

He's effectively put a new signing into a situation whereby he leaves through his performance. 

If he was so problematic then SS would be changing him or dropping him.

As much as Gale can be a threat, if he is greedy with the ball, and largely comes inside, then MC has to overlap to stretch the defence.  He is very much a modern full back and does what his manager wants him to.

On that basis, his winger, and others will be expected to cover when they can, but Gale just doesn't.

I'm not as critical of the winger as others, but he clearly could up his work rate and help. 

He went off yesterday, and the team arguably improved, even with 10 men.

Conway and Johnson patrolling that area.

Agreed.  Any assessment I have of Conway (or anyone else) has absolutely nothing to do with whether they came through at BWFC, Man City or Wigan.

32 minutes ago, desperado said:

Spotted you in Wetherspoons yesterday.

 

which one? I went to three 😄

i will need a clue as to who are tbh

45 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Looked a grim coach journey home for a few today. Few beaten souls and even broke down for a short while.

Hell on earth :D

I ain’t been on a coach since Birchys stag doo what a journey home that was. 

41 minutes ago, whiteboy said:

which one? I went to three 😄

i will need a clue as to who are tbh

I should have said hello and introduced myself, but I was with the missus yesterday and we were only in the “Union Rooms” for a quickie (a drink that is 😂

To be honest I’ve not seen you for ages and I wouldn’t be surprised if you didn’t know me. You’d have probably remembered my mate better, the sadly departed @CSW . Strange, but I have this vivid memory of of him pointing you out at Peterborough away mid-teenies when we lost 4-5.

Ironically in a Wetherspoons! 🤣

You were wearing a pink shirt.

I seem to remember @Henrick_Pedigol turning up in the same pub with his suitcase, he’d just landed in the country a few hours earlier… I think. 

I wish he (Chris) was still around to confirm this.  Well not just to confirm this, I wish he was still around 😂, he’d be pissing his sides at my awful story-telling. 

If I’ve got this story wrong then I’m putting it down to some strong psychedelic drugs I was spiked with! 😂

Edited by desperado

Still down here yet day 3 might get back for Stockport 😃

31 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

I ain’t been on a coach since Birchys stag doo what a journey home that was. 

Me neither bar in and out extremely short journeys.

Long distance no chance.

Bar bereavement that day was the worst of my life by some margin.

If uber existed then I'd have walked across as many fields as I could to the nearest road and rang one.

14 hours ago, green genie said:

Can’t believe mcatee is pleading not intentional. He never looks where ball is and lines up the jump into Mitchell with a (limp) elbow. 

Presumably hoping to avoid an extended ban. 

Btw My lads who were on the Barbican last night with some of your lads say we’ll swap you the Whites Away (which we started singing early in the season as “…I hate it”when we were shit) for the Whitney number .

He made no attempt to jump for the ball, looked for your lad then jumped into him......it may not have been violent conduct but he gave the ref a decision to make and for me he made the right one.

         What it definitely showed is that he is a bottle job and shit scared of competing for headers..... but we already knew that.

58 minutes ago, desperado said:

Fair play mate for keeping the same argument going 😂

I’ll give you some support too, so you’re not on your own. 😉

There are certain players who, for some fans, just have a black, permanent marker against them, which is just not getting removed, regardless of ANYTHING that they may or may not do in the future. 

Mcatee, Johnston & Sheehan are the ones who spring to mind. Looks like Gale is heading in that direction too.

They are definitely treated differently when they do something wrong/have a bad day.

And when they play well, the same folk don’t come along and say, fair play I may have it wrong, they’re just quiet until the next bad moment comes along.

But I agree with you, other than Dalby at the moment, they’re all inconsistent as fuck! 😂

I tried to back-track on Bonham yesterday. Because I’d given him grief previously. But fair play yesterday he was brilliant. 

I think we need to be a bit more tolerant of all our inconsistent players. 

Yes, spot on.

I appreciate the "support" but no need, I'm used to being a lone voice 😀

Glad you had a great trip though, the support considering it came on the back of 2 crap results, was outstanding.  For context, in one of our Prem seasons we put on free coaches to Birmingham (I took advantage) and we still took a lot less than 1,400 and its only 2 hours away.

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