Guest Posted May 15, 2011 Posted May 15, 2011 (edited) It would also seem on the other side of the coin he can't do anything wrong and NOTHING is his fault. He's a poor motivator, poor in the transfer market, his brand of football isn't up to much and he hasn't got a fucking clue how to organise a defence. I think we are stuck with him but the future isn't particularly rosy. depends how we feel about mid-table mediocrity and an occasional cup run, along with bright (er than hitherto) footie; guess we'll be bored sometime. I think coyle will be bored before us, without money to spunk. Edited May 15, 2011 by boltondiver
RUREADY2ROLL Posted May 15, 2011 Posted May 15, 2011 Agree with you, and regarding knight are people confusing him with Steinson? As yesterday was one of the worst full back displays I have ever witnessed and that does not help the centre halfs if they are constantly having to cover, regarding Coyle his biggest fault is his insistence in playing 442 even when we clearly do not have the personnel, next season I expect he will try to sign players who can fit that system, also feel he will drop Jussi from first choice and that will help strengthen what has become a leaking sieve. Steinson wasn't just bad yesterday; he is out of position and unaware whats going on around him all the time - not good enough Dont know why Wheater is not playing ahead of Knight because he is too clumbsy - and although I admire Robbo's british bulldog attitude he gets skinned too often. When Cahill leaves our back 4 will be a laughing stock. We have two central midfield players and they are both injuried; Ricky did great yesterday but after all his years his time is almost up. Elmander and Sturridge are almost sure to be heading out and SKD like Ricky is coming to the end of his shelf life so up top we will be left with nothing Coyle should get manager of the century if he can get us top half next season with a decent cup run
Guest Blixa Posted May 15, 2011 Posted May 15, 2011 Also we didn't have any effin money to sign shit loads of players in jan. We signed a striker and defender which was needed. You couldn't have predicted long term injuries to Holden, ricketts and mavies As both Holden and Mavies have injury track records, it was a definite possibility, especially the latter. Ricketts was just plain unlucky. Robbie Blake, for me, is Coyle's worst signing. Hardly looked like getting a game for most of the season, but still drawing a wage. Alonso, at least, has time on his side, legall actions permitting.
frank_spencer Posted May 15, 2011 Posted May 15, 2011 As both Holden and Mavies have injury track records, it was a definite possibility, especially the latter. Ricketts was just plain unlucky. Robbie Blake, for me, is Coyle's worst signing. Hardly looked like getting a game for most of the season, but still drawing a wage. Alonso, at least, has time on his side, legall actions permitting. Blake was signed with little intention of getting a game, when coyle came in he noticed a lack of camaraderie in the dressing room, he brought Blake in on a small (by prem standards) wage for his experience and his demeanour. Managing a football club the size of Bolton is more than just getting results on a match day.
SpiritofBurnden Posted May 15, 2011 Posted May 15, 2011 Stupid post suggesting we have to spend 500 million not to collapse like we have done. How much did Sam spend on the team that finished 6th? I don't know but we lost six in a row during that season...
SpiritofBurnden Posted May 15, 2011 Posted May 15, 2011 Also we didn't have any effin money to sign shit loads of players in jan. We signed a striker and defender which was needed. You couldn't have predicted long term injuries to Holden, ricketts and mavies Perhaps Coyle should have bought a crystal ball with his transfer funds. It appears that everyone other than him could see that Holden's season was going to be ended with a reckless tackle on 19th March.
hughmungus Posted May 15, 2011 Posted May 15, 2011 I tried to make the point after the cup semi final that we didn't have the players to take us to the next level, one or two on here questioned my thinking but I see the next level as not finishing where we did the previous season, on this display I am fearful for next season based on the players and style OC has in mind. Just hope I am wrong and we have targets and cash to help move to the next level.
pato Posted May 15, 2011 Posted May 15, 2011 need to f*ck Petrov off ,get two new fullbacks (like Robbo but creative violence does not overcome lack of skill) either get Gardner to the fountain of youth or get a left winger, then the plan is different team (poss 4-5-1) for away than home.
onefinfrandsen Posted May 15, 2011 Posted May 15, 2011 A superb season. Top 10 finish and an FA Cup Semi Final. Absolutely magnificent achievement with a lack of resources and one of the lowest supported teams in the league. Well done OC, hope you are here for the long term to build on this. Well said, coyle saved us from certain relegation ( not sure where we would be if that had happened ) we are mid table , the team that played yesterday had just one of coyles signings and that was a loan deal. If their is any stick to be dished out then it should be towards gartside , if we dont invest in the summer we will be in real trouble.
Guest Biff Posted May 15, 2011 Posted May 15, 2011 Last time we played them on cup final day they beat us 4-3 then (May 1953) Aye but in 1953 we had two injured players, Bell and Lofthouse, who would have been substituted in the modern game. This resulted in Ralph Banks who was marking Matthews having very little cover in the last twenty minutes. We haven't got this excuse for yesterday. Having said that, it was a good game to watch. Reminiscient of when I first watched football. Two teams playing attacking football and trying to win the game.
bolty58 Posted May 15, 2011 Posted May 15, 2011 I read some of the above with incredulity. Can we put the silly heads away now lads and talk some sense. Any of us would have settled for a mid table finish (or higher) and an FA Cup semi final appearance at the start of the season. It's been frustrating as all fook to watch our weak capitulation in recent weeks (apart from the odd flicker of life v the gooners) but, as others have pointed out, it could have been oh so different if we hadn't lost our midfield engine. Optimistic for next season. Can't believe folk would be laying sh1t at Phil Gartsides door? Could be some monumental changes in the close season with certain players moving on and a younger generation coming in. Looking forward to the ride with much optimism.
1969 Posted May 15, 2011 Posted May 15, 2011 Jesus h christ I really do despair For fuck sake were do you expect us to be Top of the league? Get a grip
onefinfrandsen Posted May 15, 2011 Posted May 15, 2011 I read some of the above with incredulity. Can we put the silly heads away now lads and talk some sense. Any of us would have settled for a mid table finish (or higher) and an FA Cup semi final appearance at the start of the season. It's been frustrating as all fook to watch our weak capitulation in recent weeks (apart from the odd flicker of life v the gooners) but, as others have pointed out, it could have been oh so different if we hadn't lost our midfield engine. Optimistic for next season. Can't believe folk would be laying sh1t at Phil Gartsides door? Could be some monumental changes in the close season with certain players moving on and a younger generation coming in. Looking forward to the ride with much optimism. The warning signs are their for pg , if coyle is not given the funds and we get relegated next year then i know who i will blame.
frank_spencer Posted May 15, 2011 Posted May 15, 2011 The warning signs are their for pg , if coyle is not given the funds and we get relegated next year then i know who i will blame. Eddie davies?
Casino Posted May 15, 2011 Posted May 15, 2011 blame yourself, for not funding us to the tune of 120 million y'know, like eddie davis has
onefinfrandsen Posted May 15, 2011 Posted May 15, 2011 blame yourself, for not funding us to the tune of 120 million y'know, like eddie davis has If i was lucky enough to be in that position then yep i probably would.
frank_spencer Posted May 15, 2011 Posted May 15, 2011 If i was lucky enough to be in that position then yep i probably would. but until we find someone else to stump up that sort of money or we start selling out a 50k seater stadium week in week out we're never going to have money to spend with any sort of regularity.
Casino Posted May 15, 2011 Posted May 15, 2011 eddie has, so whats your point you can't afford to do it, so you reckon thats ok davis can't afford more than he gives, but it'll be his fault fcuking hell, 120 million quid and folk reckon you're to blame that we've no money
SpiritofBurnden Posted May 15, 2011 Posted May 15, 2011 Having said that, it was a good game to watch. Reminiscient of when I first watched football. Two teams playing attacking football and trying to win the game. http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/may/14/blackpool-bolton-wanderers-premier-league In a match that reminded anyone here why kids start loving the game
Mounts Kipper Posted May 15, 2011 Posted May 15, 2011 eddie has, so whats your point you can't afford to do it, so you reckon thats ok davis can't afford more than he gives, but it'll be his fault fcuking hell, 120 million quid and folk reckon you're to blame that we've no money Spot on, people blaming PG what's that all about are they that ignorant, PG has little say on spending as its Eddies money, and without Eddie, we would most likely be watch division 2 football, sometimes I despair as to how ill informed some people are.
passmosster Posted May 15, 2011 Posted May 15, 2011 Spot on, people blaming PG what's that all about are they that ignorant, PG has little say on spending as its Eddies money, and without Eddie, we would most likely be watch division 2 football, sometimes I despair as to how ill informed some people are. Agreed, thank God for Eddie. Coyle hasn't had to sell unlike a few before him.
no balls Posted May 15, 2011 Posted May 15, 2011 (edited) If i was lucky enough to be in that position then yep i probably would. I don't think it's luck that's made Eddie fucking loaded. Anyhow, I have little to comment on the match as I left at half time & watch the 2nd half in some dive full of hoowers from Barnsley. Having no bar & expecting you to use a portaloo? That's not quaint, it's just 3rd world. & don't even get me started on the matchday filth. Edited May 15, 2011 by no balls
onefinfrandsen Posted May 15, 2011 Posted May 15, 2011 eddie has, so whats your point you can't afford to do it, so you reckon thats ok davis can't afford more than he gives, but it'll be his fault fcuking hell, 120 million quid and folk reckon you're to blame that we've no money To survive next year then funds however small will have to be found, megson was backed with relative big money and failed.coyle is a better manager . If you dont invest in a buisness then eventually it will fail and the buck stops at the top.
Garrp Posted May 15, 2011 Posted May 15, 2011 interview after the game coyle said "jussi didnt make a save" was it a dig or was it the only chances they had were goals? probably adding 2 + 2 and getting 5 but I did wonder
Hutch Posted May 15, 2011 Posted May 15, 2011 It's been a great season but although Holden has been a big loss for the last few games, I didn't realise how much we would have missed Ricketts when he got injured
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