Zico Posted April 22, 2025 Posted April 22, 2025 34 minutes ago, Underpants said: All the big brains are saying is yip, life could exist. They dress it up with numbers and words. But it's just a fancy guess. Im bored with this type of news. And I reckon plenty of others are too. I want to see actual evidence. Show me a microorganism or futuristic city's on a rock. Not a computer altered image of a space cloud that has been colourised. Meanwhile on K2-2016-BLG-0005Lb Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted April 22, 2025 Posted April 22, 2025 1 hour ago, Underpants said: All the big brains are saying is yip, life could exist. They dress it up with numbers and words. But it's just a fancy guess. Im bored with this type of news. And I reckon plenty of others are too. I want to see actual evidence. Show me a microorganism or futuristic city's on a rock. Not a computer altered image of a space cloud that has been colourised. You've been given all the available evidence in the article, apart from the specific data. They don't claim it to be definitive, but explain the results would suggest life according to knowledge acquired from earth. The image you may see is irrelevant. The measurements from accurate instruments are the indicators. Just like an xray or similar- you don't see the full picture of inside your body, but they indicate the various bits. Quote
Underpants Posted April 22, 2025 Posted April 22, 2025 23 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: You've been given all the available evidence in the article, apart from the specific data. They don't claim it to be definitive, but explain the results would suggest life according to knowledge acquired from earth. The image you may see is irrelevant. The measurements from accurate instruments are the indicators. Just like an xray or similar- you don't see the full picture of inside your body, but they indicate the various bits. Eh? Like I said. Im bored with this sort of news. The brains need to show us something that we haven't seen before. Theory's don't count. Until then the boredom will just carry on with every new and improved guess. Quote
Cheese Posted April 22, 2025 Posted April 22, 2025 11 minutes ago, Underpants said: Eh? Like I said. Im bored with this sort of news. The brains need to show us something that we haven't seen before. Theory's don't count. Until then the boredom will just carry on with every new and improved guess. "The brains" can only show you things they've discovered, you plantpot. Sounds like you want them to make stuff up. Have you thought of looking at the 'science fiction' category on netflix? Quote
Underpants Posted April 22, 2025 Posted April 22, 2025 1 hour ago, Cheese said: "The brains" can only show you things they've discovered, you plantpot. Sounds like you want them to make stuff up. Have you thought of looking at the 'science fiction' category on netflix? Indeed. That's the point I was making. In a way they are making things up. Even you will agree that in this case they have not discovered life. No one ever has. Phew! For a second there I thought you were just being confrontational for the hell of it. Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted April 22, 2025 Posted April 22, 2025 2 hours ago, Underpants said: Eh? Like I said. Im bored with this sort of news. The brains need to show us something that we haven't seen before. Theory's don't count. Until then the boredom will just carry on with every new and improved guess. It's not a theory. You seem to be struggling with theory and scientific evidence. Don't know why you keep referring to guesswork. It's certainly not that neither. Keep saying something that's incorrect enough won't make it correct. Very Trumpian. Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted April 22, 2025 Posted April 22, 2025 1 minute ago, Underpants said: Indeed. That's the point I was making. In a way they are making things up. Even you will agree that in this case they have not discovered life. No one ever has. Phew! For a second there I thought you were just being confrontational for the hell of it. No one is making anything up. Analysis by proven techniques yielding evidence. That evidence needs further ratification, by their own admission. Life may well have been discovered, so saying that it hasn't been is disingenuous. Quote
Cheese Posted April 22, 2025 Posted April 22, 2025 4 minutes ago, Underpants said: Indeed. That's the point I was making. In a way they are making things up. Even you will agree that in this case they have not discovered life. No one ever has. Phew! For a second there I thought you were just being confrontational for the hell of it. You don't understand the scientific process, that's all. If you want instant gratification/excitement, you're probably reading the wrong thread. Quote
Underpants Posted April 22, 2025 Posted April 22, 2025 3 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: It's not a theory. You seem to be struggling with theory and scientific evidence. Don't know why you keep referring to guesswork. It's certainly not that neither. Keep saying something that's incorrect enough won't make it correct. Very Trumpian. It is 100% a theory. If it's not 100% then the percentage that is different could, no matter how small, prove the rest wrong. Science has suggested the possibility of life beyond Earth but has not produced any evidence. If a spaceship landed on Earth then that would prove 100% that life exists elsewhere. That would be a fact not a theory. Quote
kent_white Posted April 22, 2025 Posted April 22, 2025 9 minutes ago, Underpants said: Indeed. That's the point I was making. In a way they are making things up. Even you will agree that in this case they have not discovered life. No one ever has. Phew! For a second there I thought you were just being confrontational for the hell of it. It'll be the press that are hyping the story. Not the scientists. The closest they probably got to hyperbole was something like 'the chemical signatures present in the atmosphere of K2-19b have hitherto only ever been detected on earth as a by product of simple organic life. If there is indeed no hitherto undiscovered geological or atmospherical reason for the presence of dimethyl disulfide - then this would represent the strongest evidence of organic life outside of our home planet - and also suggests that life is fairly common place in the universe. However - much more detailed examination needs to take place to asertain the nature of this substance, and with a greater degree of accuracy. These preliminary results only give a confidence level to around 0.3% An confidence level of around 1 in a million is generally considered to be the standard scientific consensus for an idea to take hold. Experiments and data analysis so should be possible to current equipment with 2 to 3 years' Quote
bolty58 Posted April 22, 2025 Posted April 22, 2025 2 hours ago, kent_white said: It'll be the press that are hyping the story. Not the scientists. The closest they probably got to hyperbole was something like 'the chemical signatures present in the atmosphere of K2-19b have hitherto only ever been detected on earth as a by product of simple organic life. If there is indeed no hitherto undiscovered geological or atmospherical reason for the presence of dimethyl disulfide - then this would represent the strongest evidence of organic life outside of our home planet - and also suggests that life is fairly common place in the universe. However - much more detailed examination needs to take place to asertain the nature of this substance, and with a greater degree of accuracy. These preliminary results only give a confidence level to around 0.3% An confidence level of around 1 in a million is generally considered to be the standard scientific consensus for an idea to take hold. Experiments and data analysis so should be possible to current equipment with 2 to 3 years' FFS, didn't you ever watch The Invaders? Quote
kent_white Posted April 23, 2025 Posted April 23, 2025 5 hours ago, bolty58 said: FFS, didn't you ever watch The Invaders? Waaaaaaay before my timr that mate. Was it a Watch With Mother kind of thing😁 Quote
Spider Posted April 23, 2025 Posted April 23, 2025 13 hours ago, Zico said: Meanwhile on K2-2016-BLG-0005Lb That’s K2-2016-BLG-0005Lc Quote
bolty58 Posted April 23, 2025 Posted April 23, 2025 2 hours ago, kent_white said: Waaaaaaay before my timr that mate. Was it a Watch With Mother kind of thing😁 You cheeky fakir. Missus bought me the box set. Corny as fuck but the cars and the clothes are worth watching it for alone. “The Invaders. Alien beings from a dying planet. Their destination: the earth. Their purpose: to make it their world. “David Vincent has seen them. For him, it began one lost night on a lonely country road, looking for a shortcut. It began with a closed, deserted diner, and a man too long without sleep to continue his journey. It began with the landing of a craft from another galaxy. “Now, David Vincent knows that the Invaders are here, that they have taken human form. Somehow he must convince a disbelieving world that the nightmare has already begun . . . .” Quote
little whitt Posted April 23, 2025 Posted April 23, 2025 5 hours ago, bolty58 said: You cheeky fakir. Missus bought me the box set. Corny as fuck but the cars and the clothes are worth watching it for alone. “The Invaders. Alien beings from a dying planet. Their destination: the earth. Their purpose: to make it their world. “David Vincent has seen them. For him, it began one lost night on a lonely country road, looking for a shortcut. It began with a closed, deserted diner, and a man too long without sleep to continue his journey. It began with the landing of a craft from another galaxy. “Now, David Vincent knows that the Invaders are here, that they have taken human form. Somehow he must convince a disbelieving world that the nightmare has already begun . . . .” CLASSIC Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted April 23, 2025 Posted April 23, 2025 1 hour ago, little whitt said: CLASSIC Aye. Look out for those crooked little fingers. Quote
little whitt Posted April 23, 2025 Posted April 23, 2025 8 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Aye. Look out for those crooked little fingers. And they Disappear when you killed one Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted April 23, 2025 Posted April 23, 2025 46 minutes ago, little whitt said: And they Disappear when you killed one Little pile of ash left iirc? Still, Mars Attacks is a better watch. Always cracks me up. Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted May 1, 2025 Posted May 1, 2025 https://www.port.ac.uk/news-events-and-blogs/news/scientist-suggests-gravity-further-supports-theory-we-are-living-in-a-simulated-universe https://uk.news.yahoo.com/50-old-spaceship-set-crash-122246670.html Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted May 2, 2025 Posted May 2, 2025 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgplgzwe3do.amp Never heard of this thing. Quote
kent_white Posted May 5, 2025 Posted May 5, 2025 On 02/05/2025 at 15:49, Tonge moor green jacket said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgplgzwe3do.amp Never heard of this thing. Wow - Imagine Roger Penrose praising you in your work! Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted May 5, 2025 Posted May 5, 2025 31 minutes ago, kent_white said: Wow - Imagine Roger Penrose praising you in your work! Who's she! 😁 Not someone I knew of, but sounds a decent sort. Quote
kent_white Posted May 5, 2025 Posted May 5, 2025 2 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Who's she! 😁 Not someone I knew of, but sounds a decent sort. I'd like to something something something her black hole. Absolutely stunning! 🥰 Quote
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