Talks about his future and rumours of losing the dressing room.

 

Expect him gone by end of today. Expect the 'get him back to Bolton' threads to start minutes after.

(I'm guessing you thought it was a capital idea to replace our scorers at Leicester against Boro)

 

Maybe, just maybe, the 2 players in question aren't fit enough for 2 games in 4 days?

 

Just playing Devil's Advocate like.

Maybe, just maybe, the 2 players in question aren't fit enough for 2 games in 4 days?

 

Just playing Devil's Advocate like.

That maybe the case, but at this stage of the season they certainly should be

That maybe the case, but at this stage of the season they certainly should be

 

for me, davies has to play if it doesn't set him back

 

moritz and davies together might be a bit much

 

and, for me, pratley was very good yesterday

 

 

beckford - i had high hopes but his misskick for the goal and an earlier fcuk up didn't scream 'i should be starting'

 

not given up on him and hed start in front of mason but without knowing the ins n outs....

 

 

allardyce was 'guilty' of some very, very strange christmas selections in his time with us

Edited January 2, 201412 yr by Casino

I wouldn't even offer Sam the job.

 

And not because I have ill feeling towards him, I just don't think he's very good any more.

hmmm. was very good for west ham two years ago and did not do too bad for em last year. This year has gone pear shaped after a decent start but they have a league cup semi and out of all the managers in the bottom 6 I think i'd choose him to get them out of trouble. Wish he'd been in charge of us in that last game at Stoke, we would not have gone down in such a spineless fashion.

There is no way moritz could start two games in a week. He can barely manage 90 mins

There is no way moritz could start two games in a week. He can barely manage 90 mins

Probably right about that though I was disappointed at the time. Still don't understand Mason up front on his own at home, Chungy's automatic inclusion. Would like to think Zat Knight is only there due to desperation but I'm not even sure of that anymore.

Was def "unfortunate" at Blackburn and Newcastle as he was ousted by new boards who thought they knew best and both were relegated not long after getting rid

 

Not looking good at West Ham though he's promoted and kept them up, probably shouldn't have spunked so much on carroll

 

He'd do a job at a club where a job needs doing, but he won't be coming back to ours, not whilst ED and PG are running the show

 

Best manager we ever had, then he left, we move on

Pretty sure he led Newcastle to their (at the time) beat start in yonks

 

But as he was Shepherd's appointment and not the Cockney mafia's, he was never going to last

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Edited January 3, 201412 yr by Blixa

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Agreed.

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Not a totally pointless post at least

There is no way moritz could start two games in a week. He can barely manage 90 mins

Which is a bit shit for a player whos been with us since August or when ever the QPR game was

 

Hope he's only being paid for one game a week

I'll pick this one up, not because I want Sam back - I don't- but under what basis does Freedman 'deserve longer'. Go on, I want to know. Is it the two home wins all season?, the constant changing of the team, which contributed to instability (I'm guessing you thought it was a capital idea to replace our scorers at Leicester against Boro), serie A type football in the hustle and bustle of the championship, or the fact we are actually worse off under Freedman than we were this time last season? Fat head is an experienced manager with success, freedman treats Bolton like it's his Swiss finishing school. I dare say this thread is given oxygen because so many of us can't help comparing chalk with cheese. Sam would be a bad idea, but certainly not as bad as freedman

I bet you tut in the pub when when stories come on the news about this club or that club having had 5 managers in 4 seasons.

 

I'm not saying freedman is perfect, far from it. But I am sick to fuck of seeing different clowns picking the team.

 

I've seen enough from him to maybe think that he's been told to keep is up this year, and kick on from there.

 

If we want a perfect manager, we can pick the phone up to Stamford Bridge and ask if your namesake fancies a dramatic change of direction.

 

In the real world, I honestly cannot think of anyone I would be happy to see replace him who is REALISTICALLY likely to. That includes Sam Allardyce.

 

I already know your response, so don't bother, by the way.

Enough to keep us up??

 

We should have enough that Spazzy Darren could manage us and we'd stay up

 

That's not really a marker that DF is a good long term bet

Sam did the bizzo for us because he was appointed as a young manager and got involved at every level of the running of the club. PG told a London Whites meeting in the early days exactly that - he got involved in everything. Then his policy of sports science etc paid off as did his getting Youri, JJ etc.

But times have moved on.  His ideas are commonplace now, and he himself is a multi millionairre, and that class of player is not available. It simply wouldn't be the same - even if he took us (or someone else) on as a pet project, the desire and impetus would not be there at 60 y.o. as opposed to 45.

What we need is a new Sam....but in reality, times have moved on and lessons have been learned by all clubs. We've been hoisted by our own petard.

Sam did the bizzo for us because he was appointed as a young manager and got involved at every level of the running of the club. PG told a London Whites meeting in the early days exactly that - he got involved in everything. Then his policy of sports science etc paid off as did his getting Youri, JJ etc.

But times have moved on. His ideas are commonplace now, and he himself is a multi millionairre, and that class of player is not available. It simply wouldn't be the same - even if he took us (or someone else) on as a pet project, the desire and impetus would not be there at 60 y.o. as opposed to 45.

What we need is a new Sam....but in reality, times have moved on and lessons have been learned by all clubs. We've been hoisted by our own petard.

Brilliant Satan

 

Get out of THAT Sam lovers.

I don't give a shit what happens this season, I hope we stick with Freedman. We probably won't though, and this is why I fucking hate the majority of "fans". They seem to have a 2 game memory bank.

It's one more than Freedman seems to have.

If he was involved at every level then surely we should have had some players coming through the youth system? It's utter bollocks.

Sam got involved in everything.

I can confirm this

If he was involved at every level then surely we should have had some players coming through the youth system? It's utter bollocks.

Doesn't mean he was any good at every level! And besides, that was a long time ago...

Surely everything he touches turns to gold?

Surely everything he touches turns to gold?

The inside of brown envelopes?

If he was involved at every level then surely we should have had some players coming through the youth system? It's utter bollocks.

Bogdan. Nolan. Vaz te. Joey o brien. Nicky hunt. Five more than we've had in the last 5/6 years. ..

Those didnt really come through the youth system though

Those didnt really come through the youth system though

They cost buttons though. Not like that connolly lad megson signed for a mil! Never even seen him! Gregus etc.