Sweep Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 The panorama bung case, we all stood behind him. How much did he manage to get out of the BBC when he sued them? - was it ever published................ Quote
Garrp Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 how you can post such tosh is beyond me you want to read it back to yourself and think again,I think Allardyce has done something to you personally the way your going on. I've read it back and I'm struggling to see which bit is wrong. Can you tell me which bit you disagree with? Quote
bgoefc Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 he fcuked off cos we didn't match his ambition, six months after being given 8 million we didn't have i'll let the #getsamhome mob explain how he's going to feel about building a team of kids and unwanteds I'll bite. He is without doubt the most successful football manager in the history of BWFC. Before any starts to harp on about pre 1963, it was a completely different era and a much more level playing field for clubs in general. He left as he felt he had done all he could after he was turned down when he asked for 8 mill "we did not have" but surprisingly found plus much more for Gary Megson. At the time he asked for that money I was watching the best bwfc team talent wise ever to grace a white shirt, who were never phased by the big boys and were competing for a top 4 finish. As for the staff players etc some of you should really grow up. We have hired many a manager to has done the same and your attitude to the clubs they came from was...."fuck em" and rightly so. There is no loyalty in football. As for his return? Well we would never reach the same heights as you rightly say circumstances are different. However I do believe he would shore up some of our defensive issues, bring stronger characters to the club and do better then Dougie Freedman is doing at present. Dare I say it, the quality of football isnt that great at the minute. Quote
Casino Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 i asked why anybody thinks he would come back to a club with far less to spend than when he flounced off i don't disagree with much of your post but you didn't answer my question why would this great manager see bwfc as his next job from what he's said in the past, he must be near retirement anyroad Quote
DazBob Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 Looking like Newcastle have nipped in and stolen Heitinga from under West Ham's noses. Roffel. Quote
radcliffe white Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 I've read it back and I'm struggling to see which bit is wrong. Can you tell me which bit you disagree with?the whole he owes us attitude bgoefc got in there before me to what I was going to say. Quote
bgoefc Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 i asked why anybody thinks he would come back to a club with far less to spend than when he flounced off i don't disagree with much of your post but you didn't answer my question why would this great manager see bwfc as his next job from what he's said in the past, he must be near retirement anyroad Apologies. I was really replying to some of the previous posts that border on the type of hysterical hang up you see in jilted lovers. You are right. He has probably made enough money, but does he not still live in the area? If he chose to apply though i for one think he could do better than the last two incumbents and the present lad, who for all his good intent and nature, has a vision of playing football completely unsuitable to the sort of players at his disposal and more importantly any he can afford to get at this level. Quote
Didledee Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 and he's a cnut Will you change your mind if he dies? he'd not come back, but give me Sam over DF. Quote
Ani Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 (edited) He did more than any other Bolton manager in living history nobody doubts that. He left because the club did not match his ambitions that is pretty well accepted. He went to Newcastle who backed his ambition and he spent money before getting sacked and Newcastle were relegated. So not sure if the Board were wrong not back him, he spent £6m on Alan Smith and the same on Joey Barton. Blackburn sacked West ham about to be sacked. He left us six years ago and been sacked three times (maybe) in that time. You can never forget what he did here but the idea that if he came back it would just like before is frankly bollocks. He pioneered the idea of bringing players who had seemingly lost their way panda built something exceptional whilst it lasted His relationship with the club and Gartside went from fruitful to septic. Gartside was chairman for the good years and has now had 4 or 5 bad years but he is the devil in some peoples eyes. Sam is the past time for everyone to move on. Edited January 2, 2014 by Ani Quote
Carlos Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 You are right. He has probably made enough money, but does he not still live in the area? If you sent something to: Fat Walrus Faced Cunt, Bromley X Bolton It would get to him. Quote
Danny G Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 If you sent something to: Fat Walrus Faced Cunt, Bromley X Bolton It would get to him. i have his email address and mobile number, shall i add him to the wanderersways x rated whats app group? Quote
anewman Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 im not sure i would want to be going off some of the crap The Gonzo adds on there I'm not allowed in Quote
anewman Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 Apples and oranges, boys. what you talking about willis Quote
COYW Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 Couldn't care less if Sam was a nice guy or not, or what he did before or after he was employed by Bolton. Fact is he is one of the best managers the club has ever had and we enjoyed the best period of football under him. The way people bleet on like a jilted bridesmaid is embarrassing. He was the manager of a football club not an ex wife FFS Summed up perfectly. Quote
COYW Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 why would this great manager see bwfc as his next job from what he's said in the past, he must be near retirement anyroad Your second point answers your first. Quote
COYW Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 He went to Newcastle who backed his ambition and he spent money before getting sacked and Newcastle were relegated. Blackburn sacked West ham about to be sacked. Has he ever been fairly sacked though? Quote
Youri McAnespie Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 Couldn't care less if Sam was a nice guy or not, or what he did before or after he was employed by Bolton. Fact is he is one of the best managers the club has ever had and we enjoyed the best period of football under him. The way people bleet on like a jilted bridesmaid is embarrassing. He was the manager of a football club not an ex wife FFS It's strange you make that analogy, as the way some hanker after his return is exactly like some cuckolded husband who got shit on by his missus yet pines for her to come back to him, doesn't accept that the whole situation has long moved on for everyone else and wouldn't work again in any way, shape or form. Quote
Traf Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 Im not in the cool club on here then. I'm not and you don't want to be. Quote
bolton va va Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 It's strange you make that analogy, as the way some hanker after his return is exactly like some cuckolded husband who got shit on by his missus yet pines for her to come back to him, doesn't accept that the whole situation has long moved on for everyone else and wouldn't work again in any way, shape or form. or that the ex-missus is now a bitter old hag who has laughably convinced herself that the husband was the guilty party, and has long since lost any of the charms that made their early years together so special anyway. Quote
Zico Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 Has he ever been fairly sacked though? Was def "unfortunate" at Blackburn and Newcastle as he was ousted by new boards who thought they knew best and both were relegated not long after getting rid Not looking good at West Ham though he's promoted and kept them up, probably shouldn't have spunked so much on carroll He'd do a job at a club where a job needs doing, but he won't be coming back to ours, not whilst ED and PG are running the show Best manager we ever had, then he left, we move on Quote
mourinho Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 It's the sheer hypocrisy of the Get Sam Back brigade that is breathtaking. They will, have no doubt, have been calling for him to fuck off and moaning like they do week in week out back when his tenure got a bit stale. They won't admit it now, of course, and will insist they backed him 100% and yadda fucking yadda. It's a no from me, simply because Dougie deserves longer. I'll pick this one up, not because I want Sam back - I don't- but under what basis does Freedman 'deserve longer'. Go on, I want to know. Is it the two home wins all season?, the constant changing of the team, which contributed to instability (I'm guessing you thought it was a capital idea to replace our scorers at Leicester against Boro), serie A type football in the hustle and bustle of the championship, or the fact we are actually worse off under Freedman than we were this time last season? Fat head is an experienced manager with success, freedman treats Bolton like it's his Swiss finishing school. I dare say this thread is given oxygen because so many of us can't help comparing chalk with cheese. Sam would be a bad idea, but certainly not as bad as freedman Quote
athywhite1958 Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 Diddles you thick cunt, why are you asking 'if he dies'? Quote
COYW Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 Was def "unfortunate" at Blackburn and Newcastle as he was ousted by new boards who thought they knew best and both were relegated not long after getting rid Not looking good at West Ham though he's promoted and kept them up, probably shouldn't have spunked so much on carroll He'd do a job at a club where a job needs doing, but he won't be coming back to ours, not whilst ED and PG are running the show Best manager we ever had, then he left, we move on You could also add Blackpool to that list. Took them to the play-offs and was then promptly sacked. Quote
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