Mounts Kipper Posted February 22, 2015 Posted February 22, 2015 I don't rate Mills. He's played well on a number of occasions this season and put some serious effort it. However his overall standard is not worth the wages we pay him. He's a bottom half of the Championship standard defender. There's a good player in Wheater. He seems to have become slower over the past two years and he wasn't quick to start with! However he was far from out of his depth when he played for us in the Prem and if he hadn't got injured in that grim penultimate home game against WBA I doubt we'd have shipped that 2-0 lead. Dervite has put in steady performances since Day One. However he isn't a leader or a commanding central defender and of late his form has dipped a bit. He doesn't deal well with the long ball over his head. Mills is alright as is Wheater but I wouldn't play them together also there not getting much protection from midfield at the moment and that's where our current problems stem from. Quote
COYW Posted February 22, 2015 Posted February 22, 2015 Is Nolan out of contract at the end of the season? Only on the bench for West Ham today. Quote
paulhanley Posted February 22, 2015 Posted February 22, 2015 I agree with you on that Mounts - but I don't entirely trust our three central defenders on their own merits. That's not to say they are crap, they aren't - but I don't currently see any of them being part of any serious progress next season, provided we secure safety this season. Quote
Ratwhite Posted February 22, 2015 Posted February 22, 2015 Mills is alright as is Wheater but I wouldn't play them together also there not getting much protection from midfield at the moment and that's where our current problems stem from. This. Missing Pratley like fuck Quote
freds dad Posted February 22, 2015 Posted February 22, 2015 This. Missing Pratley like fuck Words you wouldn't have read on here less than 9 months ago Quote
Zico Posted February 22, 2015 Posted February 22, 2015 Is Nolan out of contract at the end of the season? Only on the bench for West Ham today. I would not be opposed to this Imagine his chances in the PL would become more limited if FSA leaves and a new manager who believes in the West Ham way comes in Quote
superkev Posted February 22, 2015 Posted February 22, 2015 With the exception of the goalkeepers I would quite happily replace our whole defence (once we decide where Vela is playing). Mills came with a good reputation but there must be better defenders in League 1 never mind elsewhere. Being realistic I think one of Mills or Wheater needs replacing, together they look ready to ship goals/fouls/yellow cards every game. Dervite should be able to replaced with better and we need two new full backs. Brighton have started winning so we need to get our shit together quickly. Correct about replacing the defence Quote
Guest Posted February 22, 2015 Posted February 22, 2015 I agree with you on that Mounts - but I don't entirely trust our three central defenders on their own merits. That's not to say they are crap, they aren't - but I don't currently see any of them being part of any serious progress next season, provided we secure safety this season. Wheater, Mills and Dervite are fine if we had a midfield that wasn't as soft as a wet paper bags and had any full backs who weren't absolutely shite. We need two full backs and a proper battler in the centre of midfield. Decision to loan out Spearing looks ridiculous to me as he would be far better in there than what we've got now. Quote
Mounts Kipper Posted February 22, 2015 Posted February 22, 2015 Is Nolan out of contract at the end of the season? Only on the bench for West Ham today. I would move heaven and earth to get Nolan back to BWFC and once he's back I'd never let him leave again once his playing days are numbered I'd make sure a role on the coaching or management team was open to him. Quote
Casino Posted February 22, 2015 Posted February 22, 2015 spearing, i would guess, is on 20k a week wages we cant afford lennons 649 central midfielders comment now looks a little stupid Quote
ex_midlandwhite Posted February 22, 2015 Posted February 22, 2015 I would move heaven and earth to get Nolan back to BWFC and once he's back I'd never let him leave again once his playing days are numbered I'd make sure a role on the coaching or management team was open to him. Have a plus from me. Was gutted the day Nolan left Quote
DazBob Posted February 22, 2015 Posted February 22, 2015 If we had Nolan back he'd have to play in place of Clough. Fuck that. Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted February 22, 2015 Posted February 22, 2015 Think we have a number of gippers already. Nolan is slow now and hardly the midfield enforcer required to protect the defense. We had the best of him, reckon its time to move on now Quote
ianofcleveleys Posted February 22, 2015 Posted February 22, 2015 Our defence was shipping goals in shedloads under Freedman with one or even two holding midfielders in front of them. We've been effectively playing without any for the last month, so no surprise that we're shipping them even more. Where a lot of teams have improved over the time we've been back in the Championship has been the pace in their teams, particularly going forward. We have a bit more going forward than we had, but we're chronically short at the back and, for me, until we re-model the defence to remedy that, it needs the protection of a holding midfielder and to have two proper full backs in it. At the moment, we look lightweight, weak and naive Quote
Biggish Dave Posted February 25, 2015 Posted February 25, 2015 Watford must be worried about their defence, Zat Knight gone on trial. Good grief Quote
bwfc2003 Posted February 25, 2015 Posted February 25, 2015 What's he been charged with? Being a cunt Quote
Ratwhite Posted February 26, 2015 Posted February 26, 2015 If we had Nolan back he'd have to play in place of Clough. Fuck that. Clough won't be here next season....... Quote
Matt Lofthouse Posted February 26, 2015 Posted February 26, 2015 spearing, i would guess, is on 20k a week wages we cant afford lennons 649 central midfielders comment now looks a little stupid Speaking of which, just had a chat with the Roverrr at work who has seen enough of him to suss him out. 'He points a lot and passes sideways'. Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted February 26, 2015 Posted February 26, 2015 A question, do folk recon bannon is any better than spearing Quote
Biggish Dave Posted February 26, 2015 Posted February 26, 2015 Bannon is too lightweight to play central midfield but think he could do a job wide left. Totally different player to Spearing though. Not convinced I'd want either of them next season Quote
Marc505 Posted February 26, 2015 Posted February 26, 2015 I think Bannan takes a better set piece Quote
magic legs Posted February 26, 2015 Posted February 26, 2015 Bannan tweeted that he was watching 50 Shades on his own yesterday afternoon. Quote
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