Wasn't it Blair and the Labour Party who took us into Afghanistan and Iraq that was the catalyst for the current shitstorm?

 

but george bush's endless troop surges kind of stablized 'em.

 

I thought blair kinda got involved in the War on Terror to stop the Noraid shit. maybe it were a nato thing.

 

This "now" might be to do with various portions of al qaeda falling out with itself.

We spoke about Wahhabism last night, and this latest attack ties in to their indoctrination and their religious obligation to hate Christians and Jews, showing zero tolerance to us.

We are considered as "the other" and we are to be despised and rejected then finally obliterated in the name of Allah.

 

This indoctrination goes back many years and even includes hatred of Muslims who don't follow Wahhabism. Oil wealth has financed this for many decades now, long before Iraq and Afghanistan were invaded.

 

Interesting thought of NB's re sleeper cells waking up, it does seem like something is happening and virtually on a daily basis now.

 

To protect myself, I've put a leg of pork over my door in case the fucker's try to break in and I've put a Kevin Bacon film on the telly.

Edited July 26, 201610 yr by miamiwhite

 

To protect myself, I've put a leg of pork over my door in case the fucker's try to break in and I've put a Kevin Bacon film on the telly.

 

 

Footloose?

To protect myself, I've put a leg of pork over my door in case the fucker's try to break in and I've put a Kevin Bacon film on the telly.

I just carry around a Doctors certificate which proves I'm cured.

I just carry around a Doctors certificate which proves I'm cured.

Cured or curried ?

 

I've actually just got out of hospital after having a serious relapse overnight and aggravating my original injury from the other week.

They checked me out for infections and even bloody pneumonia so missed the start of the action in France.

 

On bloody tramadol now, so will probably be talking even more bollocks once they kick in....

Cured or curried ?

 

I've actually just got out of hospital after having a serious relapse overnight and aggravating my original injury from the other week.

They checked me out for infections and even bloody pneumonia so missed the start of the action in France.

 

On bloody tramadol now, so will probably be talking even more bollocks once they kick in....

Bloody hell what a nightmare - hope you're back on the mend. Did they find anything? Which ward were you on or just up at A&E?

Bloody hell what a nightmare - hope you're back on the mend. Did they find anything? Which ward were you on or just up at A&E?

One of the beds in A&E. Shat myself with the checks for pneumonia but they were clear. Just major internal bruising and damage to abdomen and spleen.

Off work for a while now, so will watch sky like a hawk for Isis.

Bloody hell,on sky just now, the poor priest made to kneel then had his throat cut whilst they filmed.

 

That is grim. These Islamists truly are savage and backwards.

Fireman Sam in Islamophobic symbolism shocker (according to the telegraph, I reckon Islamophobia is a bit strong)

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/26/fireman-sam-producer-apologises-after-showing-character-treading/

Would think there would be laws against locking them up before any crime committed but any connection to Islamic extremism should be a crime that carries a sentence of imprisonment.

 

 

Some months back I used the term 'internment' and was treated with disdain by the yoghourt knitting society on here.

 

I don't know how many wake up calls will be needed but for me, anyone on a 'watch list' should be immediately interned. This has to be the first sensible step. Consideration of the protection of the general wider population has to come before the views of oft misguided do-gooders like Amnesty International are taken into account.

 

It is only going to get worse and we all know it.

The teenager who has been named wore an electronic tag as he had tried (twice) unsuccessfully to travel to Syria to join ISIS. However he was allowed to turn it off during the mornings. 

 

From the Guardian:

"He became secretive, started attending a mosque, and regularly lectured his non-practicing relatives.

It took less than three months for Kermiche to be radicalised.

“He said that [Muslims] couldn’t exercise their religion peacefully in France,” his mother said. “He spoke with words that didn’t belong to him. He was under a spell, like a cult.”

She said authorities refused her request to give him an electronic bracelet after he ran away to Syria the first time, in March."

 

I think the French need to know what was being taught in that mosque.

Edited July 27, 201610 yr by bgoefc

Some months back I used the term 'internment' and was treated with disdain by the yoghourt knitting society on here.

 

 

Did internment work in Northern Ireland in the early 70's or did it just produce more terrorists?

One of the beds in A&E. Shat myself with the checks for pneumonia but they were clear. Just major internal bruising and damage to abdomen and spleen.

Off work for a while now, so will watch sky like a hawk for Isis.

Pneumonia is a bastard, glad you're clear. Get some sun (if there is any) and relax. You need to be in full fettle for the forthcoming season!

Did internment work in Northern Ireland in the early 70's or did it just produce more terrorists?

 

 

It worked in WW2 matey and that is a good enough reason for me.

 

Go on then - what would you do? Let the fuckers roam free to carry out their atrocities?

 

If internment produced more 'home grown' Islamic terrorists that would then be time to move to the next step - repatriations (born in the UK or not).

 

Islam will never integrate into Western society no matter how many believers in a coffee coloured One World idyll there are.

 

Some unpalatable facts need to be faced up to.

Some months back I used the term 'internment' and was treated with disdain by the yoghourt knitting society on here.

 

I don't know how many wake up calls will be needed but for me, anyone on a 'watch list' should be immediately interned. This has to be the first sensible step. Consideration of the protection of the general wider population has to come before the views of oft misguided do-gooders like Amnesty International are taken into account.

 

It is only going to get worse and we all know it.

What Mounts is talking about would mean that internment wasn't necessary. If it was a crime to associate with a terrorist organisation then there would be no need for imprisonment without trial.

 

Also - when you mentioned internment a couple of months back - you were talking about the Muslim community en masse - at least that's the way I interpreted it at the time.

It worked in WW2 matey and that is a good enough reason for me.

 

Go on then - what would you do? Let the fuckers roam free to carry out their atrocities?

 

If internment produced more 'home grown' Islamic terrorists that would then be time to move to the next step - repatriations (born in the UK or not).

 

Islam will never integrate into Western society no matter how many believers in a coffee coloured One World idyll there are.

 

Some unpalatable facts need to be faced up to.

1. Our security forces seem to be doing a better job than their counterparts on mainland Europe so keep their funding where it needs to be. Or increase it.

 

2. Make sure any Brexit negotiation does not give Schengen type access to migrants from all those knackered Islamic countries.

 

3. Other stuff but I had better crack on with some work rather than tap away on my phone.

 

 

Also I am not sure where under International law you can deport people with just British passports to. I know Idi Amin had a good go at it in Uganda when most of them ended up here.

 

I think we have to be open about the problem. The media sat on the story of the Cologne sex attacks presumably fearing revenge attacks but across Europe we have been very tolerant considering what is happening.

Some months back I used the term 'internment' and was treated with disdain by the yoghourt knitting society on here.

 

I don't know how many wake up calls will be needed but for me, anyone on a 'watch list' should be immediately interned. This has to be the first sensible step. Consideration of the protection of the general wider population has to come before the views of oft misguided do-gooders like Amnesty International are taken into account.

 

It is only going to get worse and we all know it.

 

thats because you wanted to lock up not just suspected jihadists but all their families as well

 

but seems your getting the notion that it's not "all of them", by suggesting going after them on the watch list

 

i'd agree, they need to be the targets - we just need to get the muslim communities on board in helping us too, without alienating them and making it worse

 

it's getting worse in terms of regularity on the contintent it would seem, though fortunately we've still had nowt to rival 9/11 - and for the most part we've avoided anything like 7/7 since then, which suggests we're doing a good job in this country, so whatever we are doing, we need to keep it up, and do more of it - then tell the french, belgians and germans how its done

Some months back I used the term 'internment' and was treated with disdain by the yoghourt knitting society on here.

 

I don't know how many wake up calls will be needed but for me, anyone on a 'watch list' should be immediately interned. This has to be the first sensible step. Consideration of the protection of the general wider population has to come before the views of oft misguided do-gooders like Amnesty International are taken into account.

 

It is only going to get worse and we all know it.

 

Talk us through the practicalities of internment Bolty lad.

 

How on earth would we go about that?

Talk us through the practicalities of internment Bolty lad.

 

How on earth would we go about that?

Hang on he's just looking for his copy of Mein Kampf.

 

....It's under the beach towel bolty

He's written a more up to date version that makes Mein Kampf look like Wind in the Willows.

i'd agree, they need to be the targets - we just need to get the muslim communities on board in helping us too, without alienating them and making it worse

My sentiments exactly. I think part of the reason we're insulated from the worst of these recent sporadic incidents (7/7 and Lee Rugby accepted) is that as a country we still work relatively hard to make multiculturalism work. While France on the other hand France were banning the burqa. Add to that the fact that France used to own North Africa and they're also having to deal with that aged old historical dilemma.

Niqabs are the ninja masks, burqas are the ones which look like ET being smuggled from place to place...jsl

Niqabs are the ninja masks, burqas are the ones which look like ET being smuggled from place to place...jsl

I reckon Hijab's can look quite smart. There's quite a few 'ahem' more liberal muslims who where them at our uni and they look well fit!

 

Not so much on some of the fatties walking up Halliwell Rd mind.

My sentiments exactly. I think part of the reason we're insulated from the worst of these recent sporadic incidents (7/7 and Lee Rugby accepted) is that as a country we still work relatively hard to make multiculturalism work. While France on the other hand France were banning the burqa. Add to that the fact that France used to own North Africa and they're also having to deal with that aged old historical dilemma.

 

See this is what I don't get.  Multiculturalism is a failed experiment.

 

You can have a multiethnic society where all individuals adhere to the same laws and values but you cannot pander those who look inward and reject integration and put their belief system above all else.

Sounds like a load of our ex pats in Spain