Islamic State

[Not in Crawley]

I used to like game for a laugh.

 

I'm not a massive fan of Falafels though. 

[Youri McAnespie]

Game for a Laugh set the blueprint for our new fucked PC world.

 

A poof, an Irish whizzhead, a gammy hand and a lezzer.

 

They should have had Lenny Henry involved for the full set.

[Zico]

a worrying mindset from this aussie politician:

 

http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2014/dec/18/sydney-siege-australia-nation-defenceless-victims-senator?CMP=ema_792

 

Liberal Democratic senator David Leyonhjelm says Sydney siege would have been less likely if public had weapons to fight back

 

He says this week’s Sydney cafe siege would have been less likely to happen if the gunman thought his hostages might be carrying concealed weapons.

 

“That nutcase who held them all hostage wouldn’t have known that they were armed and bad guys don’t like to be shot back at,” Senator Leyonhjelm told ABC radio on Thursday.

 

Instead, he says, “we are all disarmed victims” and that’s unacceptable

[Traf]

No, he got killed because someone thought he deserved to die for the crime of doing good at great personal risk. It is perverse to blame the victim rather than the perpetrator. He did not get pissed and walk in front of a bus, or fall out of a window. Someone thought Alan Henning deserved have his head sawn off on camera. You have blamed...Alan Henning. Great.

 

 

How do you know? How can you adjudicate on which Muslims are normal and rational and which ones aren't? How can you say which version of Islam is the right one? I'm sure that IS volunteers consider their beliefs and activities perfectly rational.

 

 

Yes but in that case something had actually happened to someone. As far as I can see this girl on the bus in Sydney never got so much as a dirty look.

 

I had you down as one for reasonably intelligent discussion, but it appears you're just happy to multi quote carpet bomb arguments for the sake of it.

 

1. I wasn't blaming Henning for his own death in as many words and I wasn't exonerating the actions of the savages that killed him.

However, if I advised you not to climb into a lion's den and you still did and got mauled to death, then surely you were at least partially to blame?

Some people won't/can't be told.

 

2. Normal = average = everyday, run of the mill, the norm. Surely you grasp this and surely you're even thinking of suggesting IS are rational normal people.

The vast majority of Muslims I've met can get through the day without hacking some cunts head off.

Edited December 18, 2014 by Traf

[gonzo]

Bit like ballooning about in the Zulu army's main pub 4 hours after a cup semi final and moaning when you get your head kicked in haha

[Traf]

Bit like ballooning about in the Zulu army's main pub 4 hours after a cup semi final and moaning when you get your head kicked in haha

 

It is, but who'd be stupid enough to do that, eh?

[gonzo]

:-)

[leigh white]

:-)

It's a little bit like a Bolton Bar Mitzvah.

Edited December 18, 2014 by leigh white

[bolty58]

Brilliant, an I've got a Muslim mate post from Bolty and a I know better than everyone else multi post from Tate Adie.

 

WW really is the gift that keeps giving.

 

 

You are a silly lad sometimes. Nowhere did I say that he was a mate - he is the wife's employer. Decent fellow who I actually feel sorry for on account of him having had a brain tumour removed early last year and recently learning that it may be back. Has a 1yo daughter and his missus is due to drop another in late Feb/early March. All terribly sad.

 

You can see Hosam here if you are at all interested but I wouldn't want to deflate your contemptuous crowing if it makes you feel superior. A warning to other potential viewers, there's a Liverpool fan on there.

 

http://www.ranfordroaddental.com.au/highly-qualified-dentists.aspx

Edited December 19, 2014 by bolty58

[Smiffs]

Has it occured to anyone that the savages might think they can do what they want because theres plenty wet farts who will still cuddle their brothers anyway?

 

Extremism needs culling from within its own environment by it's own people. They need to stand up to their brothers snd say get fucked, you're making my life tough here and not rely on some half arsed drip to hashtag something.

 

I await these communities with their rentamob lefties marching through towns protesting against the atrocities as they did against mouthbreathing cavedwellers, but think it might be a long time.

[Burndens Bogs]

I think most moderate muslims are too scared to stand up to extremists.

[no balls]

I'm probably in the minority on here, as it does seem quite a bedwetters' paradise these days, but I find the whole religion quite extreme anyway

[Burndens Bogs]

Nowt to argue with there NB

[Youri McAnespie]

I noticed, scrawled on the bog door in The Spinning Mule last night...

 

'Muslims go home, this is not your home...'

 

Whoever wrote that is really sticking it to them.

 

 

It was only a tinkle btw, I've stopped using certain types of pissstone where possible since the summer, when I was having a careful sober piss down one and noticed a fine mist of piss against my bare leg (wearing Partridge style Paedo shorts at the time). We must get covered in fine piss spray every time we have a piss, we just don't notice it in trousers, I piss in the traps now, unless it's a trough.

 

And that, my friends, is my fucking boring anecdote for the day (part one anyway).

[Big City Girl]

Yeah, cos it's full of Muslims in there.

[jules_darby]

I'm probably in the minority on here, as it does seem quite a bedwetters' paradise these days, but I find the whole religion quite extreme anyway

Some would argue that it encourages people to be Wholehearted.

 

In my opinion that's just talk and they need to show More than words

[Youri McAnespie]

 

Yeah, cos it's full of Muslims in there.

I'm not into graffiti of any kind, but I thought about adding...

 

'Why don't YOU go back home to Mongolia? signed: A bad muslim.'

 

But I didn't think it was funny, and I don't carry a marker pen around with me, which leads to the question, who does? (incidentally, the handwriting was quite good...)

[Ani]

Has it occured to anyone that the savages might think they can do what they want because theres plenty wet farts who will still cuddle their brothers anyway?

Extremism needs culling from within its own environment by it's own people. They need to stand up to their brothers snd say get fucked, you're making my life tough here and not rely on some half arsed drip to hashtag something.

I await these communities with their rentamob lefties marching through towns protesting against the atrocities as they did against mouthbreathing cavedwellers, but think it might be a long time.

On most things political you and I disagree, but it is a sad comment on society where people get annoyed about a terrorist being treated roughly in interrogation but go quiet when the terrorists mates kill a whole school.

 

Reminds of a Few Good Men when the guy goes on about how we value freedom but do not like having monsters on the walls to defend that freedom.

[frank_spencer]

Sidney's Muslim funeral directors are refusing to take in the gunmans body.

Saying they should chuck it in the bloody shithouse.

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/australasia/sydney-siege-muslim-funeral-directors-tell-authorities-to-dump-man-haron-monis-body-in-the-shouse-9935176.html?cmpid=facebook-post

[Smiffs]

Someone else will have to shag his hundred Virgins instead.

 

My money is on Father Christmas, he will deserve a rest soon.

[Cheese]

On most things political you and I disagree, but it is a sad comment on society where people get annoyed about a terrorist being treated roughly in interrogation but go quiet when the terrorists mates kill a whole school.

 

Reminds of a Few Good Men when the guy goes on about how we value freedom but do not like having monsters on the walls to defend that freedom.

 

Can somebody post an example of someone being annoyed about a convicted terrorist being treated roughly? I just don't believe it happens. Likewise, I don't think anybody with half a brain actually "hates all Muslims". There are a lot of people making strawman arguments in this thread...

Edited December 19, 2014 by Cheese

[SatanGreavsie]

Someone else will have to shag his hundred Virgins instead.

 

My money is on Father Christmas, he will deserve a rest soon.

To be fair, he only comes once a year

[Ani]

Can somebody post an example of someone being annoyed about a convicted terrorist being treated roughly? I just don't believe it happens. Likewise, I don't think anybody with half a brain actually "hates all Muslims". There are a lot of people making strawman arguments in this thread...

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/dec/09/cia-false-heathrow-terror-plot-waterboarding-ksm#start-of-comments

 

Here are people who are ashamed to be British after terrorists being treated roughly.

[kent_white]

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/dec/09/cia-false-heathrow-terror-plot-waterboarding-ksm#start-of-comments

 

Here are people who are ashamed to be British after terrorists being treated roughly.

That's not what I see when I read that article. I glean from it that torturing people leads to them spouting absolute bollocks in an attempt to stop you from torturing them. I thought we'd understood this since the middle ages?

 

I suppose it's all in the perceptions of the reader. Maybe that's why we all seem to disagree so much?

Edited December 19, 2014 by kent_white

[Ani]

That's not what I see when I read that article. I glean from it that torturing people leads to them spouting absolute bollocks in an attempt to stop you from torturing them. I thought we'd understood this since the middle ages?

I suppose it's all in the perceptions of the reader. Maybe that's why we all seem to disagree so much?

Sorry I tried to link to the comments. Hence the ashamed to be British comments.

 

I am not saying if torture is worthwhile or not, my point was that people get up in arms when it is one way but go quiet when it is the other (applies whichever 'side' you are on)

 

Cheese was not aware of anyone being annoyed about treatment of terrorists.