November 16, 201510 yr So how do we defeat them then? Anyone who definitively answers that question is talking out of their arse. Edited November 16, 201510 yr by Cheese
November 16, 201510 yr Anyone who definitively answers that question is talking out of their arse. Send the buggers back. Piece of piss. Right, next up, Israel, any ideas?
November 16, 201510 yr Send the buggers back. Piece of piss. Right, next up, Israel, any ideas? Ban Religion.
November 16, 201510 yr Overall solutions aren't obvious, but steps to defend ourselves are simpler to see. The most obvious is largely symbolic and involves us weighing in against IS in Syria as well as Iraq. The second is to ensure that anyone who defects to IS from the UK must never, ever come back. The third is life without parole in terrorist only prisons for each and every terrorist offence. This goes for terrorists of all persuasions from IS to the Animal Liberation Front. They seem reasonable practical steps. The rest is somewhat more complex.
November 16, 201510 yr Send the buggers back. Piece of piss. Right, next up, Israel, any ideas? Relocate Israel to upstate New York
November 16, 201510 yr Saudi Arabia is the world's largest source of funds for Islamist militant groups such as the Afghan Taliban and Lashkar-e-Taiba – but the Saudi government is reluctant to stem the flow of money, according to Hillary Clinton. "More needs to be done since Saudi Arabia remains a critical financial support base for al-Qaida, the Taliban, LeT and other terrorist groups," says a secret December 2009 paper signed by the US secretary of state. Her memo urged US diplomats to redouble their efforts to stop Gulf money reaching extremists in Pakistan and Afghanistan. "Donors in Saudi Arabia constitute the most significant source of funding to Sunni terrorist groups worldwide," she said. Three other Arab countries are listed as sources of militant money: Qatar, Kuwait and the United Arab Emirates. The cables highlight an often ignored factor in the Pakistani and Afghan conflicts: that the violence is partly bankrolled by rich, conservative donors across the Arabian Sea whose governments do little to stop them. The problem is particularly acute in Saudi Arabia, where militants soliciting funds slip into the country disguised as holy pilgrims, set up front companies to launder funds and receive money from government-sanctioned charities. It's time for this to stop. It's time to be pitiless against the bankers and against the people who invest in murder to assure their own survival in power. Assets from these states should be frozen, all over the west. Money trails should be followed, wherever they lead. People should go to jail, in every country in the world. It should be done state-to-state. Stop funding the murder of our citizens and you can have your money back. Maybe. If we're satisfied that you'll stop doing it. And, it goes without saying, but we'll say it anyway – not another bullet will be sold to you, let alone advanced warplanes, until this act gets cleaned up to our satisfaction. If that endangers your political position back home, that's your problem, not ours. You are no longer trusted allies. Complain, and your diplomats will be going home. Complain more loudly, and your diplomats will be investigated and, if necessary, detained. Retaliate, and you do not want to know what will happen, but it will done with cold, reasoned and, yes, pitiless calculation. It will not be a blind punch. You will not see it coming. It will not be an attack on your faith. It will be an attack on how you conduct your business as sovereign states in a world full of sovereign states.
November 16, 201510 yr Danny G said all that ages ago. Seriously he did. This can only be resolved by that lot.
November 16, 201510 yr So how do we defeat them then? Seems the consensus is to let many more of them in whilst we think about what to do
November 16, 201510 yr you would struggle to make plastic from electricity So we're tied to the Middle-East because of our massive appetite for plastic?
November 16, 201510 yr So we're tied to the Middle-East because of our massive appetite for plastic? most of the stuff made nowadays has some material processed from the black stuff. The keys on the keyboard, resin in the circuit boards. floor coverings, paints, tyres, road surfacing, composite materials. so yeah i guess we are tied to the ME.
November 16, 201510 yr So how do we defeat them then? Probably can't War against terror never ends Sort them out Do what you can to stop them doing it again Educate everyone else
November 16, 201510 yr most of the stuff made nowadays has some material processed from the black stuff. The keys on the keyboard, resin in the circuit boards. floor coverings, paints, tyres, road surfacing, composite materials. so yeah i guess we are tied to the ME. Oh well. Suppose we'll just have to accept the consequences then.
November 16, 201510 yr You can kill the all, the idea still survives, the propaganda still exists. That needs removing. It appears Anonymous are doing more than anyone else on that front.
November 17, 201510 yr Except he wasn't. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/serbian-police-arrest-man-carrying-syrian-passport-with-exact-same-details-as-document-found-on-a6736471.html Except he was according to the BBC who have reported that French police have matched the finger prints taken in the Greek refugee camp with the suicide bomber at the stad de France http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-34835005 Weather the passport is real or not is irrelevant, it just means ISIS are making fake ones to get multiple terrorist through without being detected with their real identities They will use them to get terrorists out of Syria and into Europe without detection BBC reporting all of the terrorists had spent some time in Syria getting trained, even the home grown ones http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34832512 Make of it what you will Edited November 17, 201510 yr by birch-chorley
November 17, 201510 yr BBC reporting all of the terrorists had spent some time in Syria getting trained, even the home grown ones So what in the name of Jesus fuck are they doing being allowed back? Here is an area where the EU might contribute something useful and agree that none of its members will re-admit anyone who has been near IS, al Shabaab or any other terrorist group. On the topic of Saudi Arabia, it may well be that the last thing anyone needs is for it to be liberated. Apart from a few kids on Facebook and some women who want to drive and vote and things, almost the whole population thinks the regime is too liberal, nowhere near Islamic enough and should be replaced with something resembling IS. The only realistic alternatives to the regime are so much worse. That is what the House of Saud is defending itself against. If they did not buy our weapons there would be strong grounds for giving them to them.
November 17, 201510 yr NO COUNTRY give a fuck about us when the IRA was taking us and kids out everywere if they kicked off again now would it be open season on them
November 17, 201510 yr invent an alternative to oil then nuke the whole continent Mathieu flamini has just done that.
November 17, 201510 yr Word for word what I imagined you'd post. Bet you were fuckin revelling in all this over the weekend and couldn't wait to get on here to say I told you so. Well done you. Well for telling us bears do actually shit in the woods. See this is my point all along. These atrocities are fuck all to do with do gooder's. We are at war with terrorist network that are already amongst us. The damage was done along time ago so I'm not sure what this "clamping down" stuff is that you're on about. Or are We on to kick em all out and shut the boarders again? Nobody I repeat nobody is saying we don't have a problem and this religion breeds hate. It's how we combat it is the issue. Dreaming up shoving everyone brown on boats and sending them home is not plausible. Not sure why I should even respond to you but as you irritate the fuck out of me with your habitual mis-spelling or the word 'borders' I'll come back at you anyway. You clearly have a problem understanding the word 'internment' too and where the fuck 'anyone brown' comes from God only knows (unless you are examining your cock). Revelling? You fucking imbecile. Hundreds of innocents killed or maimed by followers of a primitive religion which I believe will never be capable of fully integrating into Western society is not something to revel in unless you are a compete idiot (like you are for even suggesting such a thing). Get back to Dolly Busters, Color Climax and wanking with jam and cream sonny. This issue is beyond your cerebral limits.
November 17, 201510 yr Not forgetting the only bit of evidence to back up the claim that any of these nut jobs came in via the recent influx of refugees is highly suspect and doesnt tally up with any of the records. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/paris-terror-attacks-ahmed-almuhameds-passport-may-have-been-planted-by-terrorists-a6735476.html The usual defenders come forth.
November 17, 201510 yr 5 of the 6 they've named so far were French you utter clown. Fucking hell - I have reached my nadir. The village fucking idiot calling me a clown. Exactly where did I say otherwise? One of them being a so called 'Syrian refugee' is enough to prove the point you cretin. In the tens of thousands are you really stupid enough to believe that only one has arrived in Europe posing as a refugee? Don't bother answering, I already know the answer you numbskull.
November 17, 201510 yr Not sure why I should even respond to you but as you irritate the fuck out of me with your habitual mis-spelling or the word 'borders' I'll come back at you anyway. You clearly have a problem understanding the word 'internment' too and where the fuck 'anyone brown' comes from God only knows (unless you are examining your cock). Revelling? You fucking imbecile. Hundreds of innocents killed or maimed by followers of a primitive religion which I believe will never be capable of fully integrating into Western society is not something to revel in unless you are a compete idiot (like you are for even suggesting such a thing). Get back to Dolly Busters, Color Climax and wanking with jam and cream sonny. This issue is beyond your cerebral limits. Yes hit me where it hurts Bolty. Spelling and playground insults. You should be a politician. You profess to be such a knowledgable old chap. Constantly refuting anyone else's opinion that dares to stray even slightly from your radical right wing rhetoric. You carry on showing yourself up Bolty. A racist old man that thinks he's really clever. These terrorists feed off the bile you spout.
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