gonzo Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 How close was Liverpool under lennon to a sell out? Quote
Roger_Dubuis Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 36 minutes ago, gonzo said: Mental how the appetite changed in the matter of 5 or so years. Swindon you couldn’t move at burnden and it was electric. 5 years later we barely fill half the ground and nobody gives a fuck. 10,046 on for the league match v Swindon the same season, lower than every league crowd in 21 years at the Reebok ? Quote
Traf Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, gonzo said: How close was Liverpool under lennon to a sell out? Only 22k on, including an away sell-out and Reds in home areas. Quote
gonzo Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 39 minutes ago, Roger_Dubuis said: 10,046 on for the league match v Swindon the same season, lower than every league crowd in 21 years at the Reebok ? Only just I think brum and qpr pushed it 99-00ish Quote
Escobarp Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 (edited) Bury play off game think just under 20k at burnden as someone mentioned and from memory a fraction of that for the home league game that season? Shall check and revert unless someone knows? 9k on for league game Edited February 28, 2019 by Escobarp Quote
radcliffe white Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 20 minutes ago, Escobarp said: Bury play off game think just under 20k at burnden as someone mentioned and from memory a fraction of that for the home league game that season? Shall check and revert unless someone knows? Aye 19k against Bury mixed bag that season re crowds some decent however 4K against reading Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 Ranieri gone from Fulham. Quote
Johnnyrotten Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 11 hours ago, gonzo said: 13k for the Tranmere one I realise it came across as mocking Burys attendance and that wasn't my intention. If we have the same game next year we'll do well to get 5k, I know I wouldn't be there as a protest at what they've done to that cup. It's more of a comment on how the excitement generated for smaller clubs pre premier era just isn't there now, for 90% of clubs. Quote
Take Hunt Off Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 Weirdly the Tranmere league cup crowd was bang average our Championship crowd for that season circa 13-14k The Villa semi crowd was 10 thou below our league average ironically one of our best attended home seasons. Not sure what any of this proves although the Villa crowd was pisspoor Quote
Johnnyrotten Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 9 hours ago, gonzo said: Mental how the appetite changed in the matter of 5 or so years. Swindon you couldn’t move at burnden and it was electric. 5 years later we barely fill half the ground and nobody gives a fuck. Obviously lots of factors but biggest 1 for me is all seater stadiums results in more season tickets sold, as we like to book seats to guarantee sitting together. Consequently most of us attend more league games than we otherwise would, we've all dragged ourselves to games coz we've already paid. Cup games come along and its "what, there's ANOTHER game? And you want me to PAY?" 20 years ago fans would miss a league game and save themselves for the cup, now the cup is a break. Quote
Johnnyrotten Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 Just now, Take Hunt Off said: Weirdly the Tranmere league cup crowd was bang average our Championship crowd for that season circa 13-14k The Villa semi crowd was 10 thou below our league average ironically one of our best attended home seasons. Not sure what any of this proves although the Villa crowd was pisspoor Not defending the crowd but both our semi finals were 1st legs. They always feel a bit flat compared to the 2nd leg, e.g. v Bury in play off we got 4k more than Notts County a year or 2 earlier and the away followings were similar. If we had been in play offs under Parky in Div 1 with 1st leg at home and Ken had gone all Cat A on us the crowd would have been pitiful. Quote
MickyD Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 18 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said: Obviously lots of factors but biggest 1 for me is all seater stadiums results in more season tickets sold, as we like to book seats to guarantee sitting together. Consequently most of us attend more league games than we otherwise would, we've all dragged ourselves to games coz we've already paid. Cup games come along and its "what, there's ANOTHER game? And you want me to PAY?" 20 years ago fans would miss a league game and save themselves for the cup, now the cup is a break. Am I right in my recollections that the semi-final (both legs) were live on telly? Or have I remembered a reason for the low attendance that wasn't actually there? Quote
Take Hunt Off Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 Villa game definately live on ITV Not sure about the semi scousers Quote
Johnnyrotten Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 Same here. Can't remember if Tranmere was on TV, but the away leg was definitely on. Quote
Casino Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 13 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said: Same here. Can't remember if Tranmere was on TV, but the away leg was definitely on. first leg was highlights second leg live and i couldnt be arsed going Quote
Take Hunt Off Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 42 minutes ago, Casino said: first leg was highlights second leg live and i couldnt be arsed going You missed a horrible live experience up there with Aldershot & black sunday That scumbag Aldridge on the pitch Aaaagh !!!! Quote
Leyther_Matt Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 3 hours ago, Johnnyrotten said: Obviously lots of factors but biggest 1 for me is all seater stadiums results in more season tickets sold, as we like to book seats to guarantee sitting together. Consequently most of us attend more league games than we otherwise would, we've all dragged ourselves to games coz we've already paid. Cup games come along and its "what, there's ANOTHER game? And you want me to PAY?" 20 years ago fans would miss a league game and save themselves for the cup, now the cup is a break. Probably best indicated by the difference between the lowest and highest crowds in the early 90s whereas as we’ve found out recently there’s always a relatively high starting point for league attendances these days purely because of the volume of season tickets. I wouldn't necessarily put it down to all-seaters by the way as the culture is identical in rugby league with the vast majority of league crowds being season ticket holders, even clubs with terracing, and the subsequent drop off for cup games. Probably more to do with the saving offered by having a season ticket versus paying game by game, plus the Direct Debit options and the like. Quote
Duck Egg Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 There was a definite malaise around the club during the times of those semi finals against Tranmere. We'd been relegated, couldn't get back up and Todd and Frandsen hadn't long since left. Allardyce was still finding his way at the time too - "you don't know what you're doing" rang out in the cup at Cambridge iirc. Beautiful to think though, that within a few years, Aldridge was out of work, we were an established Premier league side and those Birkenhead tossers were galloping towards the conference. Quote
Traf Posted March 1, 2019 Posted March 1, 2019 9 hours ago, Duck Egg said: Aldridge was out of work, A beautiful phrase. Quote
Steejay Posted March 1, 2019 Posted March 1, 2019 1 minute ago, Traf said: A beautiful phrase. One of the most odious blokes ever... Quote
gonzo Posted March 1, 2019 Posted March 1, 2019 13 hours ago, Duck Egg said: There was a definite malaise around the club during the times of those semi finals against Tranmere. We'd been relegated, couldn't get back up and Todd and Frandsen hadn't long since left. Allardyce was still finding his way at the time too - "you don't know what you're doing" rang out in the cup at Cambridge iirc. Beautiful to think though, that within a few years, Aldridge was out of work, we were an established Premier league side and those Birkenhead tossers were galloping towards the conference. Aye he got some proper stick at Walsall Quote
RONNIE PHILLIPS Posted March 1, 2019 Posted March 1, 2019 51 minutes ago, gonzo said: Aye he got some proper stick at Walsall The only two things I remember about that day are Allardyce getting grief & free balti pies! Quote
radcliffe white Posted March 1, 2019 Posted March 1, 2019 Don’t remember him getting any grief at Cambridge wallsall yes Quote
Zico Posted March 1, 2019 Posted March 1, 2019 2 hours ago, radcliffewhite1 said: Don’t remember him getting any grief at Cambridge wallsall yes Aye, was at that game and whilst one nil down at half time I don't recall it being a shambles or anything and we won comfortably in the end That said it was 17 years ago and I can't remember what I had for tea last night Probably chips Quote
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