oggybwfc Posted January 8, 2014 Posted January 8, 2014 He'll get a wedge of the folding stuff and spend it all this month. The owners and shareholders can't risk NOT being in the Champions League. They'll end up at least 4th. Fucking hell thats a more depressing post than Anewman saying "We are Doomed" Quote
magic legs Posted January 8, 2014 Posted January 8, 2014 He'll get a wedge of the folding stuff and spend it all this month. The owners and shareholders can't risk NOT being in the Champions League. They'll end up at least 4th. Can't see them finishing any better than 4th at best - new players will need time to bed in and it may be too late by then. Quote
Casino Posted January 8, 2014 Posted January 8, 2014 haven't they 'lost' over 200million off the share value somebody is going to get twitchy Quote
Guest Blixa Posted January 8, 2014 Posted January 8, 2014 haven't they 'lost' over 200million off the share value somebody is going to get twitchy That's why they'll spend. It's a business, not a football club. Quote
Astley White Posted January 8, 2014 Posted January 8, 2014 Ignorant red scumbag on Radio GMR this morning saying Moyes has got to go because he thinks he is managing a small club like Everton or Southampton. Funny listening to them flapping. Quote
Sweep Posted January 8, 2014 Posted January 8, 2014 haven't they 'lost' over 200million off the share value somebody is going to get twitchy That's why they'll spend. It's a business, not a football club. I think they'll chuck a bit of money around in this transfer window as well. At the end of the day, with the way they're financed the owners aren't actually in for any of their own money are they? - I reckon anything they invested originally they've probably had back by now plus interest. The way they bought the club, using future income, is just outrageous.....but amusing. If they don't qualify for CL, then I think it causes them a huge issue with regards to paying the interest they have to pay off the debt each year (as they owe to banks and various other financial institutions, as opposed to an individual like we do) If they fail to qualify for the CL, just watch the green and yellow scarves and "Glazier out" banners start to appear again Quote
DazBob Posted January 8, 2014 Posted January 8, 2014 If they don't qualify for CL, then I think it causes them a huge issue with regards to paying the interest they have to pay off the debt each year (as they owe to banks and various other financial institutions, as opposed to an individual like we do) They'll be able to make up for the shortfall in income by flogging Rooney and Van Persie who will inevitably demand a move. They'll then be replaced by cheaper and inferior players and they'll continue to fall further behind the likes of Arsenal, Chelsea and City. Wishful thinking perhaps, but it'll be a joy to watch. Quote
Casino Posted January 8, 2014 Posted January 8, 2014 (edited) They'll be able to make up for the shortfall in income by flogging Rooney and Van Persie who will inevitably demand a move. They'll then be replaced by cheaper and inferior players and they'll continue to fall further behind the likes of Arsenal, Chelsea and City. Wishful thinking perhaps, but it'll be a joy to watch. some bright (for them) united fan on the radio last night made some valid points apparently, 3 or 4 times last season they were 2 down and won 3-2 van persie was the difference between where they are now and where they were last season ferguson left a relatively poor set of players the odd one for me is fellaini - how can any player who real madrid were willing to pay 85 million for have such a limited impact Edited January 8, 2014 by Casino Quote
Zico Posted January 8, 2014 Posted January 8, 2014 some bright (for them) united fan on the radio last night made some valid points apparently, 3 or 4 times last season they were 2 down and won 3-2 van persie was the difference between where they are now and where they were last season ferguson left a relatively poor set of players Van Persie was the difference between them winning the title last season, and not doing the year before however the squad is perceived now, Ferguson still won the title with it last year, or it's just a reflection of how good a manager he was or how poor/not up to it moyes is Quote
DazBob Posted January 8, 2014 Posted January 8, 2014 the odd one for me is fellaini - how can any player who real madrid were willing to pay 85 million for have such a limited impact The best game I saw Fellaini play was against Man U at Goodison. He was a monster that night. Never seen a player win so many balls in the air just by using his chest to bring the ball down Trouble is, Man U fans would never stand for their team playing such a direct style of football so I suppose Fellaini is expected to fit into a 'pass and move' style of team. I'm not sure he's that sort of player so I can't see how it will ever work for him there. Quote
DazBob Posted January 8, 2014 Posted January 8, 2014 Van Persie was the difference between them winning the title last season, and not doing the year before however the squad is perceived now, Ferguson still won the title with it last year, or it's just a reflection of how good a manager he was or how poor/not up to it moyes is Ferguson managed to have a fully fit Van Persie all season. That's something that happens very rarely, so you could say Ferguson got very lucky. When he's fit he's one of the best strikers in the world. When he's not fit they have to rely on the likes of Welbeck and Hernandez who aren't fit to lace his boots. Ferdinand, Vidic and Evra are all a year older now too. Even if Taggart was still in charge, if he had the same squad Moyes has got then IMO they'd not be challenging for the title. Of course, I think they'd be doing better than they currently are, but I don't think Mourinho, Pellegrini or Wenger would be losing any sleep over them. Quote
Garrp Posted January 8, 2014 Posted January 8, 2014 Ferguson knew pre season last year it would be his last year he knew they needed a complete rebuild as players were coming to the end of their times he didn't have time to build a new squad, knowing it was his last year so put his foot down and went and bought RVP to make sure he won the league. Quote
Sweep Posted January 8, 2014 Posted January 8, 2014 100% right Garrp, he knew full well that the squad wouldn't be strong enough next year. Moyes also took on the impossible job, the first bloke after Ferguson was always going to be set up to fail. I'm just pleased they've given him a 6 year contract, as that's going to cost a lot to pay off if they decide to get rid. I expect Man United to go through several managers in the next decade or so Quote
Pablo Posted January 8, 2014 Posted January 8, 2014 (edited) The best game I saw Fellaini play was against Man U at Goodison. He was a monster that night. Never seen a player win so many balls in the air just by using his chest to bring the ball down Trouble is, Man U fans would never stand for their team playing such a direct style of football so I suppose Fellaini is expected to fit into a 'pass and move' style of team. I'm not sure he's that sort of player so I can't see how it will ever work for him there. Best games Fellaini had was against City, United, Chelsea & Arsenal, almost every season. Weather it be AMC or MC. He was a beast in those big games. You are spot on with the playing style, Fellaini is not suited to the pass & move style.....but neither is Moyes. Team needs building around Moyes type players, and I am told, that United fans will not accept that. Wrong choice of manager. Edited January 8, 2014 by Pablo Quote
DazBob Posted January 8, 2014 Posted January 8, 2014 Best games Fellaini had was against City, United, Chelsea & Arsenal, almost every season. Weather it be AMC or MC. He was a beast in those big games. You are spot on with the playing style, Fellaini is not suited to the pass & move style.....but neither is Moyes. Team needs building around Moyes type players, and I am told, that United fans will not accept that. Wrong choice of manager. Martinez to Old Trafford in the near future...? Quote
Sweep Posted January 8, 2014 Posted January 8, 2014 Wrong choice of manager. Martinez to Old Trafford in the near future...? Martinez to OT and then Moyes having a "home coming" and going back to the Peoples club at the end of this season. MMW, ITK, ATM, FACT Quote
enzo gambaro Posted January 8, 2014 Posted January 8, 2014 RVP made 38 appearances last season. 35 starts, 31 full nineties, 26 goals. They wouldn't have won it without him. This season he's on 11 appearances, 10th starts and 7 full nineties. They're not going to win it without him. In summary, fuck them. Quote
Pablo Posted January 8, 2014 Posted January 8, 2014 Martinez to OT and then Moyes having a "home coming" and going back to the Peoples club at the end of this season. MMW, ITK, ATM, FACT That would not suprise me, Bill loves Moist. And most of our fans are too apathetic. Quote
Casino Posted January 8, 2014 Posted January 8, 2014 Ferguson knew pre season last year it would be his last year he knew they needed a complete rebuild as players were coming to the end of their times he didn't have time to build a new squad, knowing it was his last year so put his foot down and went and bought RVP to make sure he won the league. even the big sam probably (on some days) looks up to ferguson maybe on this occasion ferguson took a leaf out of fattys book Quote
EyesRight Posted January 8, 2014 Posted January 8, 2014 I'm sure I just lip read BSA say to his assistant "there's nothing we can do" after going 1-0 down to City. Quote
Sweep Posted January 8, 2014 Posted January 8, 2014 I'm sure I just lip read BSA say to his assistant "there's nothing we can do" after going 1-0 down to City. He's probably right Quote
no balls Posted January 8, 2014 Posted January 8, 2014 He's probably right How about shouting "kick um"? Quote
gonzo Posted January 8, 2014 Posted January 8, 2014 How about shouting "kick um"? My old fave in Sunday league was "snap him"!! Quote
no balls Posted January 8, 2014 Posted January 8, 2014 My old fave in Sunday league was "snap him"!! Brek is legs! Quote
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