Here We Go - Itk Transfer Gossip

[Mounts Kipper]

it all depends what you want to believe

 

for me, we were in a hole and he helped us out of it

 

theres a few former shareholders on here hold a view that ED stole the club from them

 

its something i struggle to buy into as the shares were worth more as bog roll

He bought us when we were in trouble financially for a song, from memory about 14 million. I find it hard to believe that a trained accountant Gartside and a successful business man like E.D. Have allowed the club they love to get into this position, regardless of our success over the 10 year the pair of them will be ultimately judged on where they leave the club when they hand over the reins, here's hoping they get the right buyer for the club and that when they do we're not playing in league 1 or 2. Edited September 26, 2015 by Mounts Kipper

[mourinho]

Who are you talking to?

Are we in a seance or a general forum?

[HR]

You can't compare the challenge Lennon faces with Allardyces start with us. Having a negative cash balance to deal with in this era, Lennon has got both hands tied behind his back.

[gonzo]

The term reverse takeover sticks in my mind from that era. Then getting excited because our shares were worth more than millwalls.

[snowball]

it was all very complicated to a thicko like me

 

but, when were promoted (the time we bought elliot and holdsworth) we needed cash

 

this was before davies

 

it was before pg was chairman but he may have been on the board

 

we got involved with this mosaic outfit who had some money and burnden leisure was formed and floated of the market

 

i think share price was 37p and i think they quickly rose

 

following relegation and a realisation football clubs at our level were a shitty investment they were worthless

 

davies was already in for a few million and (so the story goes) said he would back us but he wanted all the shares

 

he got them

The whole financial situation was and continues to be complicated and I bet no one on here really understands it, how much of the debt is actual debt. Is a debt a debt if its owed to the owner and not the banks etc etc. Apparently though all the answers are in the accounts that's the standard reply to anyone questioning the current board/owner? Still can't make head nor tail of it myself apart from we are fucked without new money coming in.

[superkev]

Also puts into perspective how bad a job Gartside has done for a supposed businessman to run the club virtually into the ground is tantamount to a dereliction of duty.

 

That supposed dereliction of duty is probably what gave us our premiership years and relative success. Being prudent at that time would not have given us that and the said same fans would have been moaning that we weren't spending enough

[deane koontz]

So have we signed a striker yet?

[davidjack]

I'm still waiting to find a ticket for £8.50. Given most of our support is made up of adult season ticket holders who are paying on average £15 or so a game I really don't see where the £8.50 figure comes from. The couple of thousand or so on the day sales are never less than about £25 a ticket for adults either. We'd have to be selling thousands and thousands more kids' season tickets to bring it anywhere close to an average of £8.50.

[Carlos]

I pay £6.50 a game, it's who you know...

[Guest]

I'm still waiting to find a ticket for £8.50. Given most of our support is made up of adult season ticket holders who are paying on average £15 or so a game I really don't see where the £8.50 figure comes from. The couple of thousand or so on the day sales are never less than about £25 a ticket for adults either. We'd have to be selling thousands and thousands more kids' season tickets to bring it anywhere close to an average of £8.50.

It's in the accounts

[Sweep]

I'm still waiting to find a ticket for £8.50. Given most of our support is made up of adult season ticket holders who are paying on average £15 or so a game I really don't see where the £8.50 figure comes from. The couple of thousand or so on the day sales are never less than about £25 a ticket for adults either. We'd have to be selling thousands and thousands more kids' season tickets to bring it anywhere close to an average of £8.50.

dont the accounts show the average price is about £8.50? - if so, I presume you're accusing the club of fraud

[davidjack]

Presume what you like. I've just told you what the facts of actual rather than notional or mythical ticket prices are.

[Carlos]

The only fact you've presented is that you don't have a decent source for tickets.

[davidjack]

The club claim to have sold 10,800 season tickets - unless I missed it, not one of those averages out at £8.50 for an adult. Most are roughly double that price.

[Rembrandt]

it all depends what you want to believe

 

for me, we were in a hole and he helped us out of it

 

theres a few former shareholders on here hold a view that ED stole the club from them

 

its something i struggle to buy into as the shares were worth more as bog roll

The real money I paid the club for those shares wasn't bog roll.

[1969]

Just heard nl interview forward coming on Monday for talks

[Guest]

The club claim to have sold 10,800 season tickets - unless I missed it, not one of those averages out at £8.50 for an adult. Most are roughly double that price.

How many are for kids?

 

How much is a kids season ticket?

 

Another job for Panorana

[davidjack]

Not a big enough percentage to bring average down to £8.50...not by a long way.

[BOWTUN BAKED]

Not a big enough percentage to bring average down to £8.50...not by a long way.

I have 3 season tickets, 1 adult, 2 kids.

 

£526

 

Over 23 games, over 3 people =£7.62 average, per person, per game.

 

HTH

[Sweep]

Not a big enough percentage to bring average down to £8.50...not by a long way.

Can I ask why it's bothering you so?

[davidjack]

We don't have twice as many kids as adults though BB do we? Vast majority of our support are adults. It bothers me that most people are paying double what the club says it gets per seat.

[Guest]

We don't have twice as many kids as adults though BB do we? Vast majority of our support are adults. It bothers me that most people are paying double what the club says it gets per seat.

 

 

Must be the auditors at fault

[victor meldrew]

We don't have twice as many kids as adults though BB do we? Vast majority of our support are adults. It bothers me that most people are paying double what the club says it gets per seat.

how many excluding casino are OAP's

 

what about the £10 tickets in north upper ?

 

£8.50 is generous.

[Guest]

Must be the auditors at fault

 

 

Deloitte's out

[Sweep]

It bothers me that most people are paying double what the club says it gets per seat.

Why?