jules_darby Posted September 25, 2015 Posted September 25, 2015 The ALF thing He wanted to play for us Lennon wanted him They are facts The money didn't work so that could happen...everything comes with a price - what folk are willing to / can pay and what folk are willing to provide their services for / get paid None of that makes the facts above untrue No idea why the fuxk it matters now....BWFC in lack of funds shocker?? Quote
waffer cup 07 Posted September 25, 2015 Posted September 25, 2015 The Club/ Gartside should have made a clear statement some time ago to put all supporters in the picture regarding the position the club were in and clear plans for the future. Instead we get feed bits of what appear to be reactive action to situations in the BEN.which leads to rumour, speculation and a disgruntled feeling amongst supporters which doesn,t help the general feeling around the club. Quote
Casino Posted September 25, 2015 Posted September 25, 2015 The Club/ Gartside should have made a clear statement some time ago to put all supporters in the picture they did Quote
waffer cup 07 Posted September 25, 2015 Posted September 25, 2015 Really.So why all the rumour and speculation then. Quote
kent_white Posted September 25, 2015 Posted September 25, 2015 Really.So why all the rumour and speculation then. Because people like spreading rumours and speculating? Quote
passmosster Posted September 25, 2015 Posted September 25, 2015 The state the club are in has been on the face of the accounts for the last five years. Plus the fact that without Eddie, we'd be sunk. Quote
Zico Posted September 25, 2015 Posted September 25, 2015 Really.So why all the rumour and speculation then. because of a lack of understanding and/or ignorance in some cases, too much time spent on championship manager in their youth and fantasy football in general most think they could do a better job Quote
Zico Posted September 25, 2015 Posted September 25, 2015 The ALF thing He wanted to play for us Lennon wanted him They are facts The money didn't work so that could happen...everything comes with a price - what folk are willing to / can pay and what folk are willing to provide their services for / get paid None of that makes the facts above untrue No idea why the fuxk it matters now....BWFC in lack of funds shocker?? you know what's most shit about it all the first two statements - I'd love it if a footballer thought what do they want out the game, to make money or to enjoy it - ALF will have still earned more than most, but has to now walk around looking disintersted and seemingly not enjoying himself at wolves, whereas for a pay cut he could be enjoying himself here and living close to home - same with nolan, if he really wanted to play for us if the stories are right, he could, as it is, he's earning nowt training with orient presumably hoping somone offers him 25-50k a week i'm not stupid in that i know that money talks, but think this is why i'm just not into it like i was 20 years ago when you knew mcginlay etc were here because they wanted a game bollocks to it Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted September 25, 2015 Posted September 25, 2015 you know what's most shit about it all the first two statements - I'd love it if a footballer thought what do they want out the game, to make money or to enjoy it - ALF will have still earned more than most, but has to now walk around looking disintersted and seemingly not enjoying himself at wolves, whereas for a pay cut he could be enjoying himself here and living close to home - same with nolan, if he really wanted to play for us if the stories are right, he could, as it is, he's earning nowt training with orient presumably hoping somone offers him 25-50k a week i'm not stupid in that i know that money talks, but think this is why i'm just not into it like i was 20 years ago when you knew mcginlay etc were here because they wanted a game bollocks to it Good point.These players could request bonus payments should promotion be achieved. Quote
tomski Posted September 25, 2015 Posted September 25, 2015 (edited) As shit as it surely no one can knock players for chasing the money. I would. Short careers and all that. Edited September 25, 2015 by tomski Quote
Zico Posted September 25, 2015 Posted September 25, 2015 As shit as it surely no one can knock players for chasing the money. I would. Short careers and all that. Not knocking them Well Cept the likes of Tyrone mears And who can blame him either But they could put the effort in if they agree to the money As for being a short career, in the case of Alf a naive person might argue that he should make the most of it and enjoy it Depends if they want to do owt after football Doubt any of them would want or need to do what the likes of Defraitas did and try another career after Quote
Guest Blixa Posted September 25, 2015 Posted September 25, 2015 As shit as it surely no one can knock players for chasing the money. I would. Short careers and all that. Very true. They might have a preference to come here, but they arent charities. Nolan's next deal is his last. Quote
birch-chorley Posted September 25, 2015 Posted September 25, 2015 Nolan wants to stay in London apparently Quote
Kill Cricket Posted September 25, 2015 Posted September 25, 2015 you know what's most shit about it all the first two statements - I'd love it if a footballer thought what do they want out the game, to make money or to enjoy it - ALF will have still earned more than most, but has to now walk around looking disintersted and seemingly not enjoying himself at wolves, whereas for a pay cut he could be enjoying himself here and living close to home - same with nolan, if he really wanted to play for us if the stories are right, he could, as it is, he's earning nowt training with orient presumably hoping somone offers him 25-50k a week i'm not stupid in that i know that money talks, but think this is why i'm just not into it like i was 20 years ago when you knew mcginlay etc were here because they wanted a game bollocks to it Wasn't there also a transfer fee with LeFondre? Which Wolves could afford, but we couldn't? So even if he was willing to take a pay cut, there were other factors. Quote
gonzo Posted September 25, 2015 Posted September 25, 2015 Don't think the issue was with ALF. He's only on loan at wolves. id guess they were prepared to pay more of his wages than we were. He will get paid what he gets paid by Cardiff. Quote
Blondi Posted September 25, 2015 Posted September 25, 2015 Wasn't there also a transfer fee with LeFondre? Which Wolves could afford, but we couldn't? So even if he was willing to take a pay cut, there were other factors. I think that was it, Cardiff wanted a loan fee and Wolves could pay that and his wages too. I'd imagine we wouldn't have been far off paying Alf's wages (17K)? The loan fee was probably a killer though. Quote
Guest Posted September 25, 2015 Posted September 25, 2015 It will be that M6 commute everyday Fuck that Really shit tonight Quote
mourinho Posted September 25, 2015 Posted September 25, 2015 In our promotion season under Allardyce there was a defender in our team that even though a non regular earned 3K a week, he was very happy with that. That puts him on a pay scale with the current PM. footballers get injured, ladies on the check out at Tesco get let go, there is no difference, except the footballers get more, certainly now. D'you want to play or are you navel gazing? Quote
Cheese Posted September 25, 2015 Posted September 25, 2015 In our promotion season under Allardyce there was a defender in our team that even though a non regular earned 3K a week, he was very happy with that. That puts him on a pay scale with the current PM. footballers get injured, ladies on the check out at Tesco get let go, there is no difference, except the footballers get more, certainly now. D'you want to play or are you navel gazing? Who are you talking to? Quote
Casino Posted September 25, 2015 Posted September 25, 2015 I think that was it, Cardiff wanted a loan fee and Wolves could pay that and his wages too. I'd imagine we wouldn't have been far off paying Alf's wages (17K)? The loan fee was probably a killer though. if it was 17k, which i can believe i think thats 3 x our normal offer Quote
Cheese Posted September 25, 2015 Posted September 25, 2015 if it was 17k, which i can believe i think thats 3 x our normal offer No offense Casino, but where have you got that figure from? Just a general feeling, or something more substantial? Quote
Casino Posted September 25, 2015 Posted September 25, 2015 purely conjecture but, based on what i reckon we need to be paying to break even 16/20 players on 5k a week is 4 or 5 million our post parachute income - ex positive transfer dealings - will be about that at the top end average ticket price is 8,50 ish lets say average 14k, so 3.5 million ish chucking in a million and a half for all other income ( i really cant see it, tbh) and disregarding any other outgoings work it out Quote
Cheese Posted September 25, 2015 Posted September 25, 2015 work it out Nah, I'm alright mate. Don't support Bolton Wanderers for the financial figures. Quote
Casino Posted September 25, 2015 Posted September 25, 2015 sorry, didnt mean it to be arsey all we know suggests that our normal signings will be at about that level Quote
HR Posted September 25, 2015 Posted September 25, 2015 sorry, didnt mean it to be arsey all we know suggests that our normal signings will be at about that level Can we still boo the £4/5k players? I can't wait to voice my displeasure. Quote
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