bwfc2003 Posted February 28, 2016 Posted February 28, 2016 He'd get 15M out of admin. It's no wonder he's left 15M in debt on the books that's mentioned in the SS deal. Maybe.[/quote Where would this 15 mill come from? Quote
birch-chorley Posted February 28, 2016 Posted February 28, 2016 Selling the car park for similar money to the £6m deal that fell through the other week Selling the rest of the car park to developers Selling the ground to developers Selling lostock academy to housing developers I'd bet he'd get closer to £30m in admin Quote
tomski Posted February 28, 2016 Posted February 28, 2016 Why not just put it in admin himself though and control the process rather than bringing in a third party to do something?Why does he do a lot of things mate? Why has he decided SS was the best option for us? I certainly think it is/was something he would be quite happy to do. I think he waited to see if anyone was ridiculous enough to agree a deal with him on these terms. Quote
birch-chorley Posted February 28, 2016 Posted February 28, 2016 (edited) I'm assuming SS is the only one who has any money to put in, the £1 up front, the £7.5m to see us through until summer then more moving forward For all we know none of the others had that What makes you think other bids had any actual money behind them? I doubt he would use SS to go into admin when he can do it himself. I also doubt he'd sell to SS for £1 and turn down other bids who put money on the table He wants out - it's just nobody is putting money down IMO Edited February 28, 2016 by birch-chorley Quote
Casino Posted February 28, 2016 Posted February 28, 2016 thats all too logical you need to start from the premise that ED is a cunt and then try to come up with something to prove it seeing as hes wanted out for about 2 years and as we're losing about a million a month, fcuk knows why anybody would think hed put unreasonable obstacles in the way of a sale Quote
waffer cup 07 Posted February 28, 2016 Posted February 28, 2016 Well Tan at Cardiff, the ex chairman at Brum and the guy at Leeds all passed the fit and proper test, so there must be a bloody axe murderer among SS consortium to not pass. Quote
tomski Posted February 28, 2016 Posted February 28, 2016 I'm assuming SS is the only one who has any money to put in, the £1 up front, the £7.5m to see us through until summer then more moving forward For all we know none of the others had that What makes you think other bids had any actual money behind them? I doubt he would use SS to go into admin when he can do it himself. I also doubt he'd sell to SS for £1 and turn down other bids who put money on the table He wants out - it's just nobody is putting money down IMO A lot of assumptions there. If that Thai consortium is about to invest in another championship club, I'd suggest they have the money. Tamraz wealthy enough? I find it hard to believe of the 50 plus offers he has had this was the best for bwfc. Quote
tomski Posted February 28, 2016 Posted February 28, 2016 thats all too logical you need to start from the premise that ED is a cunt and then try to come up with something to prove it seeing as hes wanted out for about 2 years and as we're losing about a million a month, fcuk knows why anybody would think hed put unreasonable obstacles in the way of a sale No, asking for premier league tv money despite doing nothing to get us back up isn't an unreasonable obstacle at all? Quote
birch-chorley Posted February 28, 2016 Posted February 28, 2016 A lot of assumptions there. If that Thai consortium is about to invest in another championship club, I'd suggest they have the money. Tamraz wealthy enough? I find it hard to believe of the 50 plus offers he has had this was the best for bwfc. Assumptions on both sides of the fence, your point above is based on a guy sharing an e-mail on a train For me it's clear that ED wants money in return for the assets - how that comes about is all speculation He could sell it himself in or out of admin As a job lot or in pieces I don't think he would turn down a good cash offer for the job lot, it just doesn't make sense to me Quote
Carlos Posted February 28, 2016 Posted February 28, 2016 I've had a look on Twitter and didn't see anything. Then again, I don't follow windowlickers like Gazza Crompton, Phil Dunny et al. Quote
gonzo Posted February 28, 2016 Posted February 28, 2016 I've had a look on Twitter and didn't see anything. Then again, I don't follow windowlickers like Gazza Crompton, Phil Dunny et al. Some guy called Anthony Haydock. Quote
tomski Posted February 28, 2016 Posted February 28, 2016 Assumptions on both sides of the fence, your point above is based on a guy sharing an e-mail on a train For me it's clear that ED wants money in return for the assets - how that comes about is all speculation He could sell it himself in or out of admin As a job lot or in pieces I don't think he would turn down a good cash offer for the job lot, it just doesn't make sense to me Completely agree on assumptions on my side. The more I see and hear, something I thought was unthinkable doesn't sound far fetched. Quote
Carlos Posted February 28, 2016 Posted February 28, 2016 Some guy called Anthony Haydock. Selfie at the gym despite looking like he's never seen a gym, plantpot. Quote
BOWTUN BAKED Posted February 28, 2016 Posted February 28, 2016 He'd get 15M out of admin. It's no wonder he's left 15M in debt on the books that's mentioned in the SS deal. Maybe.[/quote Where would this 15 mill come from? Pure speculation on my part, but... If the 15M is in the form of a secured loan, & if ED putting us in Admin would give him 9p in the pound, which is a quoted figure I read in an article, then he'd get 15M back from his 173M. Coincidental figure? Maybe. So maybe by leaving the 15M in the SS deal is his way of securing SS from not putting us into Admin. Basically he's saying, I could've done that, so if you think you can pick the deal up cheap & asset strip, well you can't & if you do, I'll get out what I could've by going down the same route myself. Who knows yet? We'll see soon enough. Quote
Wullie Posted February 29, 2016 Posted February 29, 2016 Is this lack of real investors down to the conditions laid out by ED? Not sure exactly what they are, but if you make an assumption that some of them are true, not sure i'd be wanting to pay the ex-owner any more money after i'd bought something off him. I'm guessing we will never know what has gone on. Quote
Dr Faustus Posted February 29, 2016 Posted February 29, 2016 how many of his summer signings started yesterday? and how many would get in a fully fit side. he's sent half of em of out again in january. Wilson and Silva were training with the development squad yesterday Quote
Mounts Kipper Posted February 29, 2016 Posted February 29, 2016 Is this lack of real investors down to the conditions laid out by ED? Not sure exactly what they are, but if you make an assumption that some of them are true, not sure i'd be wanting to pay the ex-owner any more money after i'd bought something off him. I'm guessing we will never know what has gone on. Changing of conditions and selling off assets was the reasons the Thai lot didn't do the deal, apparently close to doing deal with other championship club so let's see if that happens. Quote
Wullie Posted February 29, 2016 Posted February 29, 2016 Changing of conditions and selling off assets was the reasons the Thai lot didn't do the deal, apparently close to doing deal with other championship club so let's see if that happens. kind of makes me want to go round to ED's and say, hey man, if you are changing the conditions, can i have my £1500 back i put into the wanderers, which i didn't get back when YOU bought the club....but i'm not bitter or owt Quote
birch-chorley Posted February 29, 2016 Posted February 29, 2016 Trying to sell a business that's losing £250k a week is never going to be straight forward By the time you've taken 6 weeks to pour over the books another £1.5m has been lost and the goalposts would have naturally moved What we do know is that over the past 12-18months we have had to take out a pay day loan and further directors loans from warbies / ED just to pay the wages These were secured against assets so any potential deal would have had to have been changed to take these into consideration As time passed the business has become less and less valuable as its continued to lose money culminating in the sale for £1 with some pie in the sky money if we get back into the premier league If anyone seriously thinks that ED would have turned down £20m from some Thai consortium 12 months a go to sell to Deano for £1 now then fair enough, but you can't call him a money grabbing cunt in the next sentence clearly Quote
Eavesy Posted February 29, 2016 Posted February 29, 2016 How come we have cut a load of expenses and running costs and wages yet we are still losing £1m a month? Quote
Sweep Posted February 29, 2016 Posted February 29, 2016 How come we have cut a load of expenses and running costs and wages yet we are still losing £1m a month? because we were losing a lot more than £1M per month previously maybe...... Quote
Rembrandt Posted February 29, 2016 Posted February 29, 2016 I said the other day all this was like a badly written soap opera. Wrong. It's more like a pantomime - 'there's a buyer behind you.', 'no, there isn't'. Etc etc Whatever. This isn't the football club I've supported for 65 years. My passion & support are being stretched to breaking point. Quote
Rizlar Posted February 29, 2016 Posted February 29, 2016 Let's draw a line under it it's giving me a headache! Quote
Rembrandt Posted February 29, 2016 Posted February 29, 2016 Let's draw a line under it it's giving me a headache! That can only be done when ED concludes a deal which the courts & FL approve. Quote
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