On a few threads the debate get triggered if NL is the right man for the job / should he be immune from criticism, given all the circumstances. I was and still am in the "NL will come good camp" but after watching (yes from my armchair) the dross on Saturday had a first moment of doubt. Key question I reckon is even accepting the dire finances, if we had a proven Championship manager at the helm would he get more out of the current crop of players than NL does - the squad on paper at least isn't bottom 3 is it, or am I deluded? No point looking back but if Gartside's bingo machine had come up with say Chris Hughton or even Neil Warnock can't help but think the table would be different now, even if the players weren't.

 

NLSWA........and praying for miracle.

A former poster around these parts did suggest from day one that Lennon would be a poor appointment......

he;s losing

 

hes under the pressure he puts himself under and the pressure being bottom of the league puts you under

 

and hes not handling it well

 

i dunno that mjallby had muc effect on the on pitch stuff but maybe he could stand up to lennon = when necessary - and make some useful points

1 win in 21 I think

So...

 

We've had 3 "young" hungry managers in a row, all of whom most fans were very excited about at the time of signing.

 

It seems all 3 are going the same route, initial burst of form and then dwindling fast, looking rudderless, and unable to get what, on paper, looks like a decent set of players playing to a reasonable level.

 

Perhaps it's time to bring in a more seasoned mind and stop experimenting with the cheaper options?

1 win in 21 I think

 

 

last win before this season was cardiff

 

 

 

the daft thing is lennons enthusiasm and drive could still save him

 

but he needs to get 2 or 3 wins in the next half dozen

 

a bit of optimism around the place and we could get on a roll

 

we cant be in a much worse place than last season and by new year we had every chance to get comfortaly in the top 10

So...

 

We've had 3 "young" hungry managers in a row, all of whom most fans were very excited about at the time of signing.

 

It seems all 3 are going the same route, initial burst of form and then dwindling fast, looking rudderless, and unable to get what, on paper, looks like a decent set of players playing to a reasonable level.

 

Perhaps it's time to bring in a more seasoned mind and stop experimenting with the cheaper options?

Joe kinnear, Ian Dowie, Phil Brown??

 

The seasoned minds aren't very inspiring either, well the ones that would come to us any road

 

I'm not defending Lennon either, I just don't see a way out of it

I'm not defending Lennon either, I just don't see a way out of it

 

 

for me, it has to work with lennon

 

and it can

 

but he needs to say fcuk you all, im doing it my way

 

even if its 352

 

pick something/someone and give it a chance

 

 

and i think he'll get chance cos even now, hes not going to cop the flack he deserves

 

gartside is in the firing line

Edited November 3, 201510 yr by Casino

Gonzo has lauded to it there's a shift and patience is starting to get thin.

 

Lennon's got time with me, I reckon hes got enough about him to steer us clear. The reasons about settled teams players in positions etc have already been covered.

 

Ive not been one to be angry with whats going on but the silence and lack of anything from the club is starting to really get prickly.

 

Starting to fear the worse and its a looooong road back.

Thing is

 

He keeps it the same, it doesn't work; he's stupid - same thing - same results

 

He changes it, it doesn't work; he's a tinker man

 

Sounds very obvious, but he needs to just find a way to scramble to results. Just make it fucking work

Chris Powell sacked by Huddersfield, they might come in for Lenny

Huddersfield looked like world beaters against us.

Chris Powell sacked by Huddersfield, they might come in for Lenny

 

Lennon for us Powell for them almost identical stats 

How many of the bottom 8 have sacked their managers this season?

How many of the bottom 8 have sacked their managers this season?

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I'm not deliberately trying to stick up for Lennon here, but is it possible he has had the wool pulled over his eyes a little?  i.e. promised more than he has been given?

 

I seem to remember when he joined that he suggested he had a bit to play with but that seemed to change quickly and his comments (tactfully) seemed to reflect this.

 

He should be doing better, no doubt; but if the above is the case then his future career could be hinged on what happens with us.  You would also have to say that his commitment (so far) would be laudable in such circumstances and that he is indeed between a rock and a hard place.

 

That could well be bollocks but just something i've been thinking for a while . . .

Huddersfield looked like world beaters against us.

Only because Wilson kept falling over.

How can you give money to a man that is yet to make an inspiring signing?

 

All the cheap ones have been kak.

 

Why did we get rid of Craig Davies?

Why did we get rid of Craig Davies?

Is part of the reason not that he is a perma-crock. I think he's been injured most of this season already hasn't he?

1 win in 21 you say!! Is that our worst ever run?

Chris Ramsey gone... Kick It Out will have a field day; two black managers (score 4) gone yet a ginger (concedes said 4) still in charge!

 

Feel sorry the lad to some extent...

Proof that English football is racist.

Chris Ramsey gone... Kick It Out will have a field day; two black managers (score 4) gone yet a ginger (concedes said 4) still in charge!

Feel sorry the lad to some extent...

And Colin Wanker is in there.

And Colin Wanker is in there.

Fucking hell, we were going to get the cunt!

Fucking hell, we were going to get the cunt!

Probably why they pounced

Is it possible some of the issues behind the lack of funds could reflect a lack of confidence in Lennon?

 

He is quoted today 'Can I change it? No. I have to work with these players'

 

Some of the strongest words that can come out of a managers mouth.