royal white Posted April 18, 2020 Posted April 18, 2020 17 minutes ago, Spider said: From an interview he did in January (Which Royal will twist into something about queueing for bread): JOE KERNEN: --are there worries about a pandemic at this point? PRESIDENT TRUMP: No. Not at all. And-- we're-- we have it totally under control. It's one person coming in from China, and we have it under control. It's—going to be just fine. Obsessed Quote
Spider Posted April 19, 2020 Posted April 19, 2020 8 hours ago, royal white said: Obsessed You mean even you couldn’t turn that Trump statement into a positive. Hallelujah. Quote
Sweep Posted April 19, 2020 Posted April 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, Spider said: You mean even you couldn’t turn that Trump statement into a positive. Hallelujah. Give him time..... Quote
frank_spencer Posted April 19, 2020 Posted April 19, 2020 The most American story I saw was a a woman who got ill and required hospital treatment, no medical insurance so massive bill. She couldn't afford to pay so they took her house. Now she's living in a friend's garage. All be cause she was daft enough to get sick. Bonkers Quote
Rudy Posted April 19, 2020 Posted April 19, 2020 19 minutes ago, frank_spencer said: The most American story I saw was a a woman who got ill and required hospital treatment, no medical insurance so massive bill. She couldn't afford to pay so they took her house. Now she's living in a friend's garage. All be cause she was daft enough to get sick. Bonkers You ever seen a break down of what it costs to have child in an American hospital? $50 to hold your own child. American Healthcare and The Catholic Church are the biggest Mafias in the world Quote
jimmyjoojar Posted April 19, 2020 Posted April 19, 2020 10 hours ago, royal white said: Obsessed Here he goes... A typical retort from empty head. Though slightly better than the others.... “You haven’t answered my question from last July” OR “Hahahaha”. Don't bother engaging with the mongalong he’ll never tire or admit he’s wrong. Quote
frank_spencer Posted April 19, 2020 Posted April 19, 2020 21 minutes ago, Rudy’s Message said: You ever seen a break down of what it costs to have child in an American hospital? $50 to hold your own child. American Healthcare and The Catholic Church are the biggest Mafias in the world Just baffling that the yanks seem to want it to continue. Quote
Rudy Posted April 19, 2020 Posted April 19, 2020 1 minute ago, frank_spencer said: Just baffling that the yanks seem to want it to continue. They sell guns at Walmart they don’t give a fuck about Health and Safety Quote
royal white Posted April 19, 2020 Posted April 19, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, jimmyjoojar said: Here he goes... A typical retort from empty head. Though slightly better than the others.... “You haven’t answered my question from last July” OR “Hahahaha”. Don't bother engaging with the mongalong he’ll never tire or admit he’s wrong. Hey up looks like the crank has paid his internet bill, well done lad x Edited April 19, 2020 by royal white Quote
Ani Posted April 19, 2020 Posted April 19, 2020 15 minutes ago, frank_spencer said: Just baffling that the yanks seem to want it to continue. Think that is because most do not pay it they are insured. You either pay $xx per month for insurance or $xx in extra tax. In the tax model the cost is for everyone so it costs more than the insurance model which excludes people. So if you are in the scheme it costs you less than taxation. You just have to ignore those who can not afford it. In a lot of instances health care is part of the benefits package with a job. That is the American dream. Quote
Mounts Kipper Posted April 19, 2020 Posted April 19, 2020 2 hours ago, Spider said: You mean even you couldn’t turn that Trump statement into a positive. Hallelujah. At the moment 112 deaths per million folk in the USA is better than all modern Europe except Germany, perhaps Trump has it covered. Quote
Ani Posted April 19, 2020 Posted April 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: At the moment 112 deaths per million folk in the USA is better than all modern Europe except Germany, perhaps Trump has it covered. Do you think he has ? Quote
Spider Posted April 19, 2020 Posted April 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: At the moment 112 deaths per million folk in the USA is better than all modern Europe except Germany, perhaps Trump has it covered. Aye Its all under control. 30,000 dead folks’ families couldn’t agree more. Quote
Mounts Kipper Posted April 19, 2020 Posted April 19, 2020 Just now, Ani said: Do you think he has ? We won’t know until it’s over but the death rates per million are something that Europe would be championing as a massive success. Quote
Mounts Kipper Posted April 19, 2020 Posted April 19, 2020 Just now, Spider said: Aye Its all under control. 30,000 dead folks’ families couldn’t agree more. At European death rates Italy for example deaths would be over 120k. Quote
Spider Posted April 19, 2020 Posted April 19, 2020 Just now, Mounts Kipper said: We won’t know until it’s over but the death rates per million are something that Europe would be championing as a massive success. You also said we’d get nowhere near italy. You’re Nostradamus like properties are failing. Quote
Mounts Kipper Posted April 19, 2020 Posted April 19, 2020 Just now, Spider said: You also said we’d get nowhere near italy. You’re Nostradamus like properties are failing. We’re nowhere near Italy. We’re just over 200 deaths per million while they are heading towards 400 per million. Quote
Ani Posted April 19, 2020 Posted April 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: We won’t know until it’s over but the death rates per million are something that Europe would be championing as a massive success. You can still have an opinion. I do not think he has a clue on this. What do you think ? Quote
Spider Posted April 19, 2020 Posted April 19, 2020 Just now, Mounts Kipper said: We’re nowhere near Italy. We’re just over 200 deaths per million while they are heading towards 400 per million. We don’t count our care home dead though, so I suppose our numbers are whatever suits Hancock. Quote
Mounts Kipper Posted April 19, 2020 Posted April 19, 2020 1 minute ago, Ani said: You can still have an opinion. I do not think he has a clue on this. What do you think ? Probably not, he’s not an expert, he should take expert advice make decisions based on the experts opinion and also let experts do the interviews. The facts are USA doing better than virtually all of Europe, so perhaps he is taking that advice. Quote
Mounts Kipper Posted April 19, 2020 Posted April 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, Spider said: We don’t count our care home dead though, so I suppose our numbers are whatever suits Hancock. Still way below Italy death rates even if we add them. Quote
Spider Posted April 19, 2020 Posted April 19, 2020 Mounts and Royal think Trump can do no wrong. It’s a stubbornness that comes with the territory. Think they’ll lose face. I think Trump is RIGHT, FACT about the WHO. I also think he’s a massive liability, a narcissist and a danger. Its possible for both to be true. Quote
royal white Posted April 19, 2020 Posted April 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, Ani said: You can still have an opinion. I do not think he has a clue on this. What do you think ? I wouldn’t expect him to, like I wouldn’t expect Boris too. I’d expect the health professionals who they appoint to have a better idea though. However it’s showing with the results worldwide it’s a learning curve for everyone Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted April 19, 2020 Posted April 19, 2020 1 minute ago, Spider said: We don’t count our care home dead though, so I suppose our numbers are whatever suits Hancock. Italy didn't either. May have changed, but the hospital deaths is the method that most use as a basis for their ongoing plans as it is almost real time and therefore more useful. Using death numbers on their own is unhelpful and provides no context other than understandable emotion. These science people have to put that to one side for the greater good. Quote
Mounts Kipper Posted April 19, 2020 Posted April 19, 2020 Just now, Spider said: Mounts and Royal think Trump can do no wrong. It’s a stubbornness that comes with the territory. Think they’ll lose face. I think Trump is RIGHT, FACT about the WHO. I also think he’s a massive liability, a narcissist and a danger. Its possible for both to be true. I’m not saying Trump can do no wrong, you again are jumping to conclusions, I’m just pointing out that he does get some things right but the haters won’t hear of anything other than Trump said it so it’s wrong. Quote
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