Spider Posted January 3 Posted January 3 1 hour ago, royal white said: Funny seeing some of the posts on here and social media. Basically he’s done what America have been doing for decades and usually with us assisting them. This time it’s been done alone, millions haven’t died and there’s very little chance of retribution on our shores. He said he wasn’t that guy though. I think that’s the point. Quote
royal white Posted January 3 Posted January 3 Just now, Spider said: He said he wasn’t that guy though. I think that’s the point. What guy? Quote
kent_white Posted January 3 Posted January 3 1 hour ago, royal white said: This time it’s been done alone The main differences being....... The US acted unilaterally without even UK support. They've literally kidnapped a sitting head of state (whether you like him or not). There's no UN mandate, no coalition, no alliance support, plus Trump is openly talking about controlling Venezuela's oil industry Obviously there's very little chance of retribution on our shores (unless the situation escalates - which it could). And there's also very little danger of the Venezuela being able to retaliate either. Otherwise I doubt Trump would have even considered this. You're watching a major violation of international law happen in real time. We're back to 'might is right' again, and balls to the rules based international order. You're watching the mask come off. Quote
Spider Posted January 3 Posted January 3 2 minutes ago, royal white said: What guy? A man of war. Hes a peacemaker. It’s kinda his big grift. Quote
royal white Posted January 3 Posted January 3 1 minute ago, Spider said: A man of war. Hes a peacemaker. It’s kinda his big grift. He didn’t rule out in his first term that military action could be on the cards. Quote
Cheese Posted January 3 Posted January 3 (edited) 4 minutes ago, kent_white said: The main differences being....... The US acted unilaterally without even UK support. They've literally kidnapped a sitting head of state (whether you like him or not). There's no UN mandate, no coalition, no alliance support, plus Trump is openly talking about controlling Venezuela's oil industry Obviously there's very little chance of retribution on our shores (unless the situation escalates - which it could). And there's also very little danger of the Venezuela being able to retaliate either. Otherwise I doubt Trump would have even considered this. You're watching a major violation of international law happen in real time. We're back to 'might is right' again, and balls to the rules based international order. You're watching the mask come off. Not to mention, even the Iraq/Afghan invasion was approved by Congress, so the comparison is nonsensical, and one that could only be made by a Trump sycophant. This isn't "how America does things". Edited January 3 by Cheese Quote
MalcolmW Posted January 3 Posted January 3 JFK invaded Cuba but the result was the Bay of Pigs disaster. Quote
royal white Posted January 3 Posted January 3 2 minutes ago, kent_white said: The main differences being....... The US acted unilaterally without even UK support. They've literally kidnapped a sitting head of state (whether you like him or not). There's no UN mandate, no coalition, no alliance support, plus Trump is openly talking about controlling Venezuela's oil industry Obviously there's very little chance of retribution on our shores (unless the situation escalates - which it could). And there's also very little danger of the Venezuela being able to retaliate either. Otherwise I doubt Trump would have even considered this. You're watching a major violation of international law happen in real time. We're back to 'might is right' again, and balls to the rules based international order. You're watching the mask come off. So no UN mandate like the numerous conflicts our country have just been involved with. That kidnapping is him getting the “bad guy”. Look what happened when the other lot tried getting the “bad guys” This has been done in a couple of hours, Quote
royal white Posted January 3 Posted January 3 8 minutes ago, Cheese said: Not to mention, even the Iraq/Afghan invasion was approved by Congress, so the comparison is nonsensical, and one that could only be made by a Trump sycophant. This isn't "how America does things". Doesn’t need their approval cocker 👍 Quote
DirtySanchez Posted January 3 Posted January 3 3 minutes ago, royal white said: So no UN mandate like the numerous conflicts our country have just been involved with. That kidnapping is him getting the “bad guy”. Look what happened when the other lot tried getting the “bad guys” This has been done in a couple of hours, Though if the Cartels who Madura was happy to turn a blind eye to and maybe the military, don't like this can you see it ending peacefully? Quote
jmjhb Posted January 3 Posted January 3 4 minutes ago, royal white said: Doesn’t need their approval cocker 👍 Is there anything for which you won't defend Trump? Quote
royal white Posted January 3 Posted January 3 Just now, jmjhb said: Is there anything for which you won't defend Trump? Yes plenty, the comment you replied to is a fact though, it makes no difference if I defend him or not. Quote
miamiwhite Posted January 3 Posted January 3 17 hours ago, Sweep said: Will he announce that? - fair play if he does Edit: miami got confused..... I'm confused and you edit your post but still get it wrong again 😂 Here pal, take some of my meds then edit your post again...3rd time lucky eh 😘 😂 Quote
royal white Posted January 3 Posted January 3 3 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said: Though if the Cartels who Madura was happy to turn a blind eye to and maybe the military, don't like this can you see it ending peacefully? Probably not, yet when have cartels trying to run a country been a good thing? Nice to see the 100s of thousands out on the streets tonight celebrating. Quote
jmjhb Posted January 3 Posted January 3 “We are going to run the country until such time as we can do a safe, proper and judicious transition.” Just the impunity of it all, and the inevitable aggrandisement. Proper dark timeline. Quote
jmjhb Posted January 3 Posted January 3 (edited) 4 minutes ago, royal white said: Probably not, yet when have cartels trying to run a country been a good thing? Nice to see the 100s of thousands out on the streets tonight celebrating. 2 December 2025 Juan Orlando Hernández, the former president of Honduras, has walked free after President Donald Trump pardoned him - a man once characterised as the key figure in a drug trafficking scheme that flooded America with over 400 tonnes of cocaine. Trump has said that Hernández, who was sentenced to 45 years in prison by a US court, is a victim of political persecution and has been "treated very harshly and unfairly". Makes you think, doesn't it At least let's not pretend with the notion it's about drugs. Drugs won that war. Edited January 3 by jmjhb Quote
Spider Posted January 3 Posted January 3 During the Covid lockdown, most supply chains were on their arse and we all nearly ended up fighting for bog roll. The class A industry didn’t miss a beat. And this won’t make any impact either. It’s a little distraction and probably more geared towards oil than drugs. The worlds bestest bigliest negotiator has just done what every other president did when wanting a quick result. Quote
DirtySanchez Posted January 3 Posted January 3 Just now, royal white said: Probably not, yet when have cartels trying to run a country been a good thing? Nice to see the 100s of thousands out on the streets tonight celebrating. Good on them But if the cartels, the ones Trump says were shipping over the drugs aren't going to be happy especially if Madura was happy to let them do what they want, decide they might fancy taking over People on the streets is one thing, blokes with loads of guns, drugs and money is another Now there is no one in charge so surely you can see the obvious problem Quote
Cheese Posted January 3 Posted January 3 1 minute ago, jmjhb said: “We are going to run the country until such time as we can do a safe, proper and judicious transition.” Just the impunity of it all, and the inevitable aggrandisement. Proper dark timeline. And the richest man in the world - who claims he played a pivotal part in Trump's election - is publically laughing about his AI platform generating images of naked kids for paedophiles, with Far Right thickos cheering him on while they pretend to care about protecting women and children. We really are entering the abyss. Quote
royal white Posted January 3 Posted January 3 Just now, DirtySanchez said: Good on them But if the cartels, the ones Trump says were shipping over the drugs aren't going to be happy especially if Madura was happy to let them do what they want, decide they might fancy taking over People on the streets is one thing, blokes with loads of guns, drugs and money is another Now there is no one in charge so surely you can see the obvious problem Time will tell. Maybe they can get some pointers from their South American neighbours who have plenty of experience in this. Quote
royal white Posted January 3 Posted January 3 1 minute ago, Cheese said: And the richest man in the world - who claims he played a pivotal part in Trump's election - is publically laughing about his AI platform generating images of naked kids for paedophiles, with Far Right thickos cheering him on while they pretend to care about protecting women and children. We really are entering the abyss. You do seem to spend a lot of time on his platform. It Explains quite a lot Quote
DirtySanchez Posted January 3 Posted January 3 2 minutes ago, royal white said: Time will tell. Maybe they can get some pointers from their South American neighbours who have plenty of experience in this. How is Columbia doing? Quote
Spider Posted January 3 Posted January 3 Has Donny Wonny said what the plan is now Maduro has been removed? You’d assume he’s got a fully thought out and watertight plan to ensure the country runs efficiently after this? Quote
royal white Posted January 3 Posted January 3 3 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said: How is Columbia doing? A lot better since the peak cartel days, still a lot to work on though. Quote
Traf Posted January 3 Posted January 3 41 minutes ago, Spider said: A man of war. Hes a peacemaker. It’s kinda his big grift. Caracas. He's fucking Caracas Quote
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