2 hours ago, Whitesince63 said:

Be interesting to know what Wanderers valuation on Victor is. It obviously can’t be less than the £500k we paid but surely not much more?

Agreed , Id say £750k for ol concrete shins , but as he seems to have improved that a lot , Im happy to keep him . We need 4 or 5 strikers so if we sold him who could we get thats better for the price of Vic ? Tho Id swap 3 of ours for a 35 yr old Bob taylor 

46 minutes ago, barrycowdrill said:

Suppose that’s just a general reflection of his standard. The higher conversion of chances the higher up the pyramid you go. 
 

he’s hit 20 a couple of times inc pens. You take them out the equation and he’s hitting maybe 15? as prob a 1 in 3 chances man. He goes down to 1 in 2 chances he gets maybe 25 - 30 goals and then he’s in the champ anyway.. 

Wasnt that the thing with Andy Johnson at Crystal Penalty ? 

If Vic goes we would need a very good replacement brought in for it to make sense to me. Macaulay Langstaff would have been ideal but he's now at Millwall. That level of player would be needed for me, rather than relying on Dan or another prospect. 

The biggest thing we lose when Dion is out is his energy.

His tenacity and pest like nature is what makes him. We didn't half miss that last season.

1 hour ago, Roger_Dubuis said:

Correct, not the best record in  the big 3rd Division matches. Missed a penalty to equalise v Ipswich after eagerly grabbing the ball from another Bolton player,. missed a glorious chance to open the scoring at Portsmouth last season, and shot tamely at Wrexham's keeper with a good chance on Saturday.I think he's a better option than Vic though

Bit like that shit bag Andy Cole who used to miss some shockers.

What was his goalscoring record like? 

1 hour ago, desperado said:

Bit like that shit bag Andy Cole who used to miss some shockers.

What was his goalscoring record like? 

He scored a few against Bolton didnt he, although i remember both Yorke and Cole scoring in one match and being on the losing side...

I really wouldn't be arsed if Charles went.  David Reeves mkII.

1 hour ago, gonzo said:

The biggest thing we lose when Dion is out is his energy.

His tenacity and pest like nature is what makes him. We didn't half miss that last season.

That's where Mcatee is going to help. Him , Dion and Collins can play in a three, but if Dion is out we can still have Mcatee and his pressing to replace him. He might not be exactly the same player, but he does press well. 

Charles has been poor for a considerable amount of time now. I'd much rather we have a forward who can control the ball and/or finish relatively straight-forward chances than one that runs around a lot.

I'm happy to have one who scores quite a few.

I think Dion is brilliant and would be gutted to see him go.
Yes he’s not always the most composed, and goes through dry spells, but that’s why he’s playing at this level. 

Like Gonzo says, we really miss his relentless harrying when he’s out of the side. He’s also our quickest striking outlet.

And for all the chances he misses, he’s at least always in the positions to have a chance of scoring. 

Would be a huge loss. 

....and is he was more prolific he probably wouldn't be playing in Division 3

Edited August 22, 20241 yr by gonzo

We'd have no physical presence at all up front without Vic. It's always a important option to have whether starting or coming off the bench to change the game.

3 hours ago, gonzo said:

The biggest thing we lose when Dion is out is his energy.

His tenacity and pest like nature is what makes him. We didn't half miss that last season.

I think McAtee can provide that, but he's not a proper striker in my eyes

I know it's only 3 games in but I'm yet to see anything in McAtee to make me excited about him signing. Marcus Maddison minus the headband

1 hour ago, DazBob said:

I really wouldn't be arsed if Charles went.  David Reeves mkII.

I was a TP man but that’s a mad shout. 

Charles is the best we will get at this level who does the pressing Evatt wants and delivers 20 plus goals. I’d be gutted if he went

Past 2 weeks our 4 best players in Baxter, Rico, Sheehan and Charles are seemingly not a problem if they go. Anyone remember how shit we were without them last season?

28 minutes ago, frank_spencer said:

Past 2 weeks our 4 best players in Baxter, Rico, Sheehan and Charles are seemingly not a problem if they go. Anyone remember how shit we were without them last season?

Exactly. The only reason we didn't finish in the top 2.

All about opinions, but I honestly don't think he's one of our best four players.

I don't think he's been one of our best players for a while now.  Probably since #babygate, but not sure if that is just coincidence.

1 hour ago, Cheese said:

Exactly. The only reason we didn't finish in the top 2.

Collins and Bod upfront with CJ off the bench away at Derby in the biggest game of the season

Good lord above.

43 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Collins and Bod upfront with CJ off the bench away at Derby in the biggest game of the season

Good lord above.

Nobody's fault. Just wasn't meant to be.

3 hours ago, frank_spencer said:

I know it's only 3 games in but I'm yet to see anything in McAtee to make me excited about him signing. Marcus Maddison minus the headband

I'm the same 

I think him and Collins are virtually the same player. Finding a way to make them and Charles to work together will be key for us.

5 hours ago, frank_spencer said:

I know it's only 3 games in but I'm yet to see anything in McAtee to make me excited about him signing. Marcus Maddison minus the headband

To be fair Collins took a few games to start firing.