(That long since we've had any, couldn't find the thread)

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He did alright at Wednesday on the day Liam Trotter turned into Van Basten.

Michael Antonio stated up front .for them that day with emi martinez on the bench too!?

28 minutes ago, kent_white said:

Wasn't Andy Kellett the next big thing too? 😁

Had the bizarre loan move to United.

1 hour ago, thebells said:

Matheson just isn’t good enough. 

Evatt and many other experienced coaches see him daily. If he was good enough he’d be in the squad. 

Then clear him off.

Why does Evatt sit with an unused squad place he's currently unable to fill. He could at least have him available till January. He's never let the club down when called on.

Tell me that's not odd.

1 hour ago, thebells said:

Matheson just isn’t good enough. 

Call him John Smith, take away his worldie at Old Trafford and (bizarre) subsequent 7 figure move to Wolves, and he’s just a lad who we tried in the first team. On the ball he’s ok. But positionally and game awareness he’s way off. 
 

Evatt and many other experienced coaches see him daily. If he was good enough he’d be in the squad.  
 

Hope it works for him. His attitude seems spot on. Just doubt it’ll be with us. 

To be fair one of his own admissions he doesn’t see the lads daily and they don’t train hard enough 

41 minutes ago, Dr. Feelgood said:

Then clear him off.

Why does Evatt sit with an unused squad place he's currently unable to fill. He could at least have him available till January. He's never let the club down when called on.

Tell me that's not odd.

Matheson is a B team player, not a squad player.

I have reservations about the B team for sure, but i don't find it remotely odd that he doesn't give a squad place to someone who isn't at the level needed. 

His choice to keep the spot available is a fair discussion, but i'm not in favour of handing it to someone who just can't play at that level.

 

42 minutes ago, Dr. Feelgood said:

Then clear him off.

Why does Evatt sit with an unused squad place he's currently unable to fill. He could at least have him available till January. He's never let the club down when called on.

Tell me that's not odd.

it made perfect sense at the time

a spare slot meant if a free agent came up, we could fill that spot

fuck, we couldve even added bod, like wrexham did

hows that working out for em both?

39 minutes ago, Big E said:

To be fair one of his own admissions he doesn’t see the lads daily and they don’t train hard enough 

Well known Big Sam only came to training on a Thursday and Friday, as he felt it helped up the tempo in time for matchday.

In terms of Evatt not being at training, I think there's some nuance here. My understanding is that he is there most days. However, while his coaches are taking training, he may be meeting performance analysts, scouts, etc. Remember, his job is to 'manage', not to run every little detail.

Where you may have a point is that if they're not training hard enough, he's employed the wrong people OR isn't instilling the right culture. 

Ever wish you'd not said owt?

1 hour ago, thebells said:

Where you may have a point is that if they're not training hard enough, he's employed the wrong people OR isn't instilling the right culture. 

Both

Does coming into the squad mean SSA fills that available spot now or does he not count due to his age?

1 hour ago, gonzo said:

Ever wish you'd not said owt?

Bet you feel a right Craddock now 😉

2 hours ago, thebells said:

Matheson is a B team player, not a squad player.

I have reservations about the B team for sure, but i don't find it remotely odd that he doesn't give a squad place to someone who isn't at the level needed. 

His choice to keep the spot available is a fair discussion, but i'm not in favour of handing it to someone who just can't play at that level.

 

If he can’t play at this level then surely we just make him redundant. 

Just now, Big E said:

If he can’t play at this level then surely we just make him redundant. 

Yes, but you have to make every B Team player redundant on that basis.

I tend to agree with you. Just being clear that Matheson is really no different to any other B Team player

6 minutes ago, thebells said:

Yes, but you have to make every B Team player redundant on that basis.

I tend to agree with you. Just being clear that Matheson is really no different to any other B Team player

Fair enough but surely that screams a lot about the set up. They must get funding for these lads 

In the pizza cup games I've seen Matheson play I thought that he did okay.  Certainly well enough to warrant a place in the squad seeing as there was one free.

1 hour ago, Whitesince63 said:

Does coming into the squad mean SSA fills that available spot now or does he not count due to his age?

No

He won't be registered until he turns 21 before the start of the season

Or won't have to be registered

14 minutes ago, DazBob said:

In the pizza cup games I've seen Matheson play I thought that he did okay.  Certainly well enough to warrant a place in the squad seeing as there was one free.

He did do ok, but we’ve got, Cogley, Williams, Tutu, Schon and jones who can all playing wingback so he’s not going to displace them so no point in adding him to the squad. 

27 minutes ago, thebells said:

Yes, but you have to make every B Team player redundant on that basis.

I tend to agree with you. Just being clear that Matheson is really no different to any other B Team player

The B team is a pointless exercise.

52 minutes ago, Traf said:

The B team is a pointless exercise.

Seems that way so far. 

 

thomasson, sharples, conway, khumbeni may disagree

even carty - does he still play for us

fwiw, i don't mind the B team

the players we bring in are on buttons

Just now, Casino said:

thomasson, sharples, conway, khumbeni may disagree

even carty - does he still play for us

fwiw, i don't mind the B team

the players we bring in are on buttons

Carty had a bad injury… still with us.

3 of them have scored for us. 

At first glance, would probably forget that!

44 minutes ago, Casino said:

thomasson, sharples, conway, khumbeni may disagree

even carty - does he still play for us

fwiw, i don't mind the B team

the players we bring in are on buttons

Did GT get much B team action? I thought we signed him then sent him out on loan

6 hours ago, frank_spencer said:

Had the bizarre loan move to United.

Sold his soul