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We dont have anybody else like Santos

Cant understand anybody thinking selling him makes any sense

 

Re Wycombe, I thought they had money behind them, now?

He's a scapegoat of the way we play.

 

 

If we’ve got even the slightest chance of getting promoted this season, it’s with Santos. He’s back to his best and we’ve nobody even close to what he can do in that role.

If we look to cash in at our final chance (which would be massively knock-down due to 6 months left), then we say goodbye to promotion.

I reckon the powers that be would see his value being greater in terms of contribution to potential promotion rather than actual cash in the bank.

There's absolutely no fucking way we move Santos on in January unless it's for a daft fee which it won't be because he's of contract in the summer 

His best offer next summer will probably be from us 

 

14 minutes ago, Zico said:

There's absolutely no fucking way we move Santos on in January unless it's for a daft fee which it won't be because he's of contract in the summer 

His best offer next summer will probably be from us 

 

Whichever 3 teams go up will get a bargain if they offer him a contract that no L1 team is going to offer.  OK Birmingham will probably have greater ambitions but for eg Wycombe or Wrexham won't be attracting any better CBs.

With Santos, not something I'd like to see happen, just saying that there's a possibility, if he gets wind of an opportunity that really turns his head and someone throws the club a pretty daft fee for what's about 18-20 games. 

At this level, we will never get another central defender as good as Santos. 

We need to offer him a deal that he can’t refuse.

Didn’t get the hype when everyone thought he was bobbins months ago. Similar to not understanding the must keep with him now.

We've tried with him and others and if he wants to go then so be it.

Toal > Santos

12 minutes ago, L/H White said:

Toal > Santos

At what? Hurling?

Because it's not at defending.
Toal's not all that, I don't get how people overlook the many mistakes he makes.

11 minutes ago, Traf said:

At what? Hurling?

Because it's not at defending.
Toal's not all that, I don't get how people overlook the many mistakes he makes.

🙂

22 minutes ago, Traf said:

At what? Hurling?

Because it's not at defending.
Toal's not all that, I don't get how people overlook the many mistakes he makes.

Toal had huge potential but hasn't developed as a player since he first broke into the team. 

13 minutes ago, only1swanny said:

Toal had huge potential but hasn't developed as a player since he first broke into the team. 

Lol

6 minutes ago, L/H White said:

Lol

only 6 other teams in this league that have let more goals in than us. 

Not really the signs of a solid established defence.

7 hours ago, ianofcleveleys said:

Coleman you'd think, if he wants to play and somebody needs a keeper. Not seeing Wycombe having the money for Morley but others might. Wouldn't be fussed about Williams being moved on and Conway being brought back. Santos if he wants to go in Jan 

Wycombe now owned by a Billionaire.......And Santos is the best defender we have had in the last 7/8 years

Needs a new contract

Why doesn't he want to sign?? 

14 minutes ago, JimmyRiddle said:

Why doesn't he want to sign?? 

He's been unhappy with the fans all year.

If he wants to go I'd cash in in Jan. As much of a problem that looks at the minute it might force a different style of football.

7 hours ago, only1swanny said:

only 6 other teams in this league that have let more goals in than us. 

Not really the signs of a solid established defence.

Not wholly fair.

Two in midfield, frequently with one of them being Sheehan, who can't tackle a good dinner, leaves the defence exposed.

Wingbacks being asked to do 2 jobs doesn't help neither.

If he wants 3 up top, then 4 at the back for me.

1 hour ago, Stig said:

He's been unhappy with the fans all year.

If he wants to go I'd cash in in Jan. As much of a problem that looks at the minute it might force a different style of football.

I don't disagree, but the soft arse was a delivery driver before he signed for us! Think he'd be glad of a decent contract!

I think the fact he crumbles under pressure and takes his bat and ball home explains a lot about his unfulfilled career.

2 minutes ago, JimmyRiddle said:

I don't disagree, but the soft arse was a delivery driver before he signed for us! Think he'd be glad of a decent contract!

I think the fact he crumbles under pressure and takes his bat and ball home explains a lot about his unfulfilled career.

I certainly agree we’ve been good for him. But he’s been good for us. 

His prerogative to explore his options and I’d wish him well.

That said I think it would cause a re think and could well be for the better. 

My gut is we will offer him the best contract around and he will stay. I think this would be a mistake.

 

It will be down to his wife and she won’t have been happy after all the shit she got involved in he will be off wouldn’t be surprised he goes in January .

51 minutes ago, Rizlar said:

It will be down to his wife and she won’t have been happy after all the shit she got involved in he will be off wouldn’t be surprised he goes in January .

She’s the one who said he wasn’t signing. 
 

I don’t think it’s purely financial and he wants to head back to London at some point. Money may force a decision change but, at his age, I’m not sure we want to be offering big money 3 year deals. 
 

Not good for any team to be reliant on one player. He’s fairly unique in his ability to play that role I think. 
 

Heard a rumour Evatt is using the spare squad place to reregister himself as a player so at least we’re covered 🙂

10 hours ago, only1swanny said:

only 6 other teams in this league that have let more goals in than us. 

Not really the signs of a solid established defence.

Toals been injured for the majority

Toal’s a good’n. Defensive positioning is as good as it gets at this level, I just think he gets bullied too easily. He needs to get on the GT gym regime of summer ‘23. He’s tall enough but if he bulked up I reckon he’d be an even better defender (his distribution leaves a lot to be desired though).

3 minutes ago, Eddie said:

Toal’s a good’n. Defensive positioning is as good as it gets at this level, I just think he gets bullied too easily. He needs to get on the GT gym regime of summer ‘23. He’s tall enough but if he bulked up I reckon he’d be an even better defender (his distribution leaves a lot to be desired though).

Def a liabilty on the ball, moreso when stuck on the left, but GJ is no footballer either (imo)

Another reason santos is integral to the way we will play

If we could keep the 3 fit and in form, we really SHOULD be fine