Jesus Christ.....can't be those fuckers again...

So then who did it?

 

Watched the news and the German police don't seem to know

 

But folk on here seem to

Given events since 2001 what would your guess be?

I see what you are saying but I think your analogy is a bit squiffy when you think about it.

Either way, these are shitty times. It brings it home when these things happen in Europe but the atrocities happening in Syria and Yemen are just beyond words.

When folk think it is OK to drop barrel bombs of chlorine into a city then you know there is no fucking hope.

There's folk on this thread happy to kill 1000s of innocents

And Germany didn't let 10s of thousands in to just be nice

 

They need workers, young workers as their own don't breed quick enough

Partly

 

I think the best way to react to any terrorist arrack no matter what country is to not react at all

 

I did note Germany though as I believe that they will have been targeted as their recent hospitality to a million refugees doesn't quite fit the terrorist narrative that the west is all evil, by targeting them they will hope to divide German public opinion and bring about change

No. They do it because their holy scripture says that it right for them to do it.

 

Ignore them and they will continue to do it no matter what. Their aim is to fight to ensure everyone on this planet eventually worships Allah. They have a lot of silent and monetary support from a lot of rich Arab countries and amongst their fellow immigrants.

 

Germany has simply made it far more easier for them to commit these crimes in that country. 

Edited December 20, 20169 yr by bgoefc

Given events since 2001 what would your guess be?

I don't guess at these things

Aye, and the terrorist attack is about wanting to make us change.

 

It's not just for the hell of it.

Each to there own Alf but I don't believe a terrorist attack is just about the dozens that are directly killed / injured immediately at the event

 

After all the population of the west runs into hundreds of millions so in the grand scheme of things they have done fuck all damage really that way

 

For me a big part of their aim is to make as many people as possible scared to do the normal things such as Xmas markets, go to concerts, football games, use public transport etc etc

 

That's where the impact hits us hardest as many people get genuinely frightened by it and change what they do. I remember after the Paris attacks people were scared to go to the Manchester Xmas markets. This is what the fuckers want, to scare us and change the way we operate

 

Fuck that, I'm not taking the bait

Edited December 20, 20169 yr by birch-chorley

No. They do it because their holy scripture says that it right for them to do it.

 

Ignore them and they will continue to do it no matter what. Their aim is to fight to ensure everyone on this planet eventually worships Allah. They have a lot of silent and monetary support from a lot of rich Arab countries and amongst their fellow immigrants.

 

Germany has simply made it far more easier for them to commit these crimes in that country.

Far more easier?

 

People talk like it was a closed shop before the Syrian crisis. We don't even know if the cunt entered with the 10,000.

The TV news reporter John Simpson was on the radio this evening talking about his career and mentioned a thought provoking statistic.

 

During his time covering the Cold War 250 people in a million died each year as a result of war and terrorism. That figure today is 10 in a million.

 

So the world is a safer place but the deaths are now closer to home than they previously were.

I like that statistic,

 

But just like football, statistics don't count for much.

Far more easier?

 

People talk like it was a closed shop before the Syrian crisis. We don't even know if the cunt entered with the 10,000.

1 million last year the scale of this movement is on a different level than ever before any government who sit in power and allow this to happen are completely fucking mental, sadly folk still believe Islamification of the west isn't an issue again they should be carted of to the lunatic asylum. And before folk start I'm happy to concede that there are good Moslems, I have a good number as friends although their Turkish not Syrian.

Edited December 20, 20169 yr by Mounts Kipper

1 million last year the scale of this movement is on a different level than ever before any government who sit in power and allow this to happen are completely fucking mental, sadly folk still believe Islamification of the west isn't an issue again they should be carted of to the lunatic asylum. And before folk start I'm happy to concede that there are good Moslems, I have a good number as friends although their Turkish not Syrian.

how do you know it's an immigrant

Like said before if he's not an immigrant and say a German born Muslim there is fuck all you can do and that is very worrying

1 million last year the scale of this movement is on a different level than ever before any government who sit in power and allow this to happen are completely fucking mental, sadly folk still believe Islamification of the west isn't an issue again they should be carted of to the lunatic asylum. And before folk start I'm happy to concede that there are good Moslems I have a good number as friends alrhough their Turkish not Syrian.

I'd wager that migration during / after WW2 pisses all over the 1m that went to Germany last year

 

With that in mind I'd suggest your comment that the scale of movement is on a different level than ever before is far from the truth

 

I don't know any Syrians so can't comment as such but I was of the impression that they are generally far more moderate than many Muslim states. I do know a fair few Iranians who came over here in the 80's and they are absolute model citizens. Run businesses, employ folk, own nice houses and pay big taxes (PNE fans mind but you can't win them all)

 

Id certainly take them over many British shit bags who are scared of a days work and milk the system for all it's worth

 

Now I wasn't one that said we should take in as many as Germany, far from it. The fact Germany has a huge population problem that means they need an influx of immigrants, taking them in will probably be the right thing for them in the long run economically speaking

 

If anything I thought Merkel got away a bit lightly, she was made out to be a saint. Rather than picking up the immigrants from the refugee camps in Turkey she opened the doors to anyone who made it to Germany. Basically the fittest, strongest & wealthiest of the lot who could make there way through. Meanwhile we get 25,000 of the opposite straight from Turkey

Edited December 20, 20169 yr by birch-chorley

1 million last year the scale of this movement is on a different level than ever before any government who sit in power and allow this to happen are completely fucking mental, sadly folk still believe Islamification of the west isn't an issue again they should be carted of to the lunatic asylum. And before folk start I'm happy to concede that there are good Moslems, I have a good number as friends although their Turkish not Syrian.

How very generous of you

I make it that 134 people have been killed by terrorist attacks in Europe in 2016.

 

Think of all the things that kill more people than that, which largely people don't give a fuck about (240 by drink driving in the UK alone). Yet there are apparently many who think the world would be a better place if we let millions suffer instead.

Edited December 21, 20169 yr by Tombwfc

Read this before Url that sez its a deadly carjack of a polish lorry driver. 

 

Claiming he Got ambushed by a group of isis-ers. 

 

Dunno if its true or owt.

I'd recommend not being able to view his posts.

 

 

Works for me until somebody pastes one in.

Just a quick straw poll, but has anyone on here had to go to a funeral of someone who has died in a terrorist attack?

 

 

I do hope this is not a 'things are not that bad' or 'quite a rare occurrence' type leading question?

 

I have lived through the IRA atrocities, Baader Meinhof, Nuclei Armati Rivoluzioni etc. and things have never been this bad or this frequent.

 

Time to take the red tinged blinkers off and call it what it is. Attacks on western civilisation by extremist devotees of a stone age religion which has kept its followers in a medieval time warp for centuries. That's why they are embittered. They can see what the West has compared to the primitive existence a large proportion of them lead. The true driver behind all of this is anger rooted in overwhelming envy.

There's folk on this thread happy to kill 1000s of innocents

 

 

What a load of fucking bollocks you come out with sometimes.

 

Condemn the murdering cunts who are causing all these problems, not people concerned about our Western lifestyle and freedoms being threatened.

What a load of fucking bollocks you come out with sometimes.

 

 

Fcuk me, that hurts coming from you

 

Identify those killing innocent westerner erst and you can slice bits off em for as many years as you like

 

But bullshit like bombing em all back to the stone age is exactly that, utter bullshit

 

More will have died in Syria every day for the last God knows how many months than died in Berlin

 

And plenty will be normal folk, folk like me, my wife and kids

But bullshit like bombing em all back to the stone age is exactly that, utter bullshit

 

 

 

 

Go on then - show me exactly where I said that? The red mist is clouding your judgement again.You and the other PLO supporter put the same slant on things every time. 

 

I wonder if you agree with me that strong men Gaddafi, Saddam and Bashar Al-Assad would have been/are better off left in place to control their undesirables and that we Westerners should have stayed the fuck out of it?

 

I am convinced the world would be a better place with their iron fists controlling these nasty groups of extremist nutjobs. 

Edited December 21, 20169 yr by bolty58

I make it that 134 people have been killed by terrorist attacks in Europe in 2016.

 

Think of all the things that kill more people than that, which largely people don't give a fuck about (240 by drink driving in the UK alone). Yet there are apparently many who think the world would be a better place if we let millions suffer instead.

What that says is we have to accept either terrorism or well, terrorism.

 

I don't like drink driving either.

 

Comparing one negative to another isn't really a sound arguement that convinces many to think "well that's OK then".

how do you know it's an immigrant

I never said it was although it probably will be, my comments were general thoughts on mass influx of immigrants, and not particularly this incident.

Edited December 21, 20169 yr by Mounts Kipper

And Germany didn't let 10s of thousands in to just be nice

 

They need workers, young workers as their own don't breed quick enough

get some Rayguns in them fuckers can Breed pretty Quick

I'd wager that migration during / after WW2 pisses all over the 1m that went to Germany last year

 

With that in mind I'd suggest your comment that the scale of movement is on a different level than ever before is far from the truth

 

I don't know any Syrians so can't comment as such but I was of the impression that they are generally far more moderate than many Muslim states. I do know a fair few Iranians who came over here in the 80's and they are absolute model citizens. Run businesses, employ folk, own nice houses and pay big taxes (PNE fans mind but you can't win them all)

 

Id certainly take them over many British shit bags who are scared of a days work and milk the system for all it's worth

 

Now I wasn't one that said we should take in as many as Germany, far from it. The fact Germany has a huge population problem that means they need an influx of immigrants, taking them in will probably be the right thing for them in the long run economically speaking

 

If anything I thought Merkel got away a bit lightly, she was made out to be a saint. Rather than picking up the immigrants from the refugee camps in Turkey she opened the doors to anyone who made it to Germany. Basically the fittest, strongest & wealthiest of the lot who could make there way through. Meanwhile we get 25,000 of the opposite straight from Turkey

A lot of the Iranians who came over here in the 80s came to escape the Ayatollah (Islam) fanatascism were not Moslems and many were business people who were educated completely different profile to the folk who are washing up in Europe at the present.

Regarding movement of people in the world wars there was never anywhere near 1 million movement of people in a 12 month period in fact did many folk move outside of the country they resided in I don't know but suspect not.

Edited December 21, 20169 yr by Mounts Kipper

A lot of the Iranians who came over here in the 80s came to escape the Ayatollah (Islam) fanatascism were not Moslems and many were business people who were educated completely different profile to the folk who are washing up in Europe at the present.

Many of the Syrians coming into Europe are moderate business people who are educated and just want to escape life living in an Islamic caliphate run by ISIS (which the West helped create with years of failed foreign policy as Bolry has stated)

 

There are millions of decent folk coming out of Syria who would make a great contribution in the west, similar to the Iranians who came over in the 80's

 

Granted I didn't want the UK taking in millions, far from it, we had our own I mmigration issues, mainly down to the fact we speak English and it's a preferred choice for many migrants. It made sense though for Germany to take many more in as they have a shrinking / ageing population

Edited December 21, 20169 yr by birch-chorley