Mate of mine is there says a bomb just went off

12 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Re the last paragraph, can't blame the child for where and to whom it's born- so fair dos on that one. Though I would be wary of letting grandparents raise her.

Spot on. Not the innocent kids fault although, no doubt, the odd nutjob may condone stabbing.

Find some anonymous, decent mixed race couple desperate for a child and let the poor lad grow up in decent surroundings and make something of himself.

No way should he be let anywhere near her extremist father.

4 hours ago, MickyD said:

I think the point being made is that her return (or not) should not be a decision based on opinion of millions of folk who share negative viewpoints on Facebook, Twitter, Wanderersways, etc. It should be a decision based on law of the land.

No sane person is going to say forgive and forget and welcome her home. The Government know that her return would garner a high degree of unrest and mistrust but the law is the law.

 

If she was allowed to walk free I would not be surprised if she was to suffer harm.

5 hours ago, bolty58 said:

 

If she was allowed to walk free I would not be surprised if she was to suffer harm.

If she does walk free it will be under another name in a town a long way from home.

10 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Can't agree. 15 and a bit naive maybe. Nevertheless perfectly capable of forming an informed opinion based on plenty of evidence.

Shows no remorse nor regret either.

She's a bad un.

She was groomed....I think its important to put it into that context. We wouldn't say a 15 year old groomed by an older man and raped was "perfectly capable of an informed decision". 

As others say her attitude now is the bigger issue - and also the fact we can't just keep her locked up as potentially she hasn't committed crimes worthy of that treatment.  Equally long term we can't block her coming back. Its a messed up situation. 

6 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said:

She was groomed....I think its important to put it into that context. We wouldn't say a 15 year old groomed by an older man and raped was "perfectly capable of an informed decision". 

As others say her attitude now is the bigger issue - and also the fact we can't just keep her locked up as potentially she hasn't committed crimes worthy of that treatment.  Equally long term we can't block her coming back. Its a messed up situation. 

We all undoubtedly made mistakes as teenagers. Certainly, at 15 I knew exactly the mistakes in life I was making. Those mistakes usually were things like picking a fight with a hard bastard and coming off worst; drinking too much alcohol and ending up pissed up on a park bench all night... you know, things we all did as kids.

One thing I didn't do was run away and join a known terrorist group. That isn't a mistake, it's a lifestyle choice.

2 minutes ago, MickyD said:

We all undoubtedly made mistakes as teenagers. Certainly, at 15 I knew exactly the mistakes in life I was making. Those mistakes usually were things like picking a fight with a hard bastard and coming off worst; drinking too much alcohol and ending up pissed up on a park bench all night... you know, things we all did as kids.

One thing I didn't do was run away and join a known terrorist group. That isn't a mistake, it's a lifestyle choice.

I'm not disagreeing - but she didn't just fall into it. She was targeted and groomed. For me - if she was now saying "look I made a terrible mistake I renounce ISIS and want to come back" I think her age and circumstances play a part. But given she thinks beheadings are normal...nah.

But being groomed and coerced into it at 15 isn't absolutely the end point for me. I think there is redemption from there. But not when at 19 you have the attitude she seems to. 

Just listened to interview with her 

 

no remorse. Says the Manchester arena attack was tit for tat effectively and people are killed as well during attacks on IS. 

How is she even being considered for a return here 

17 hours ago, Jol_BWFC said:

Can you send us a link to that FACT?

Don't get me wrong most of the stuff posted is racially spewed bollocks at times but this stuff is pretty accurate:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/09/15/former-british-soldier-jailed-nearly-8-years-turkey-accused/

She shouldn't be allowed back in my opinion. she is a risk to us all. only takes her to encourage one person to kill and its one too many. 

 

Poor soul lost 2 kids through malnutrition....still her & her hubby don't seem to have missed too many meals.

1 minute ago, RONNIE PHILLIPS said:

Poor soul lost 2 kids through malnutrition....still her & her hubby don't seem to have missed too many meals.

Bet she has a fanny like an empty headlock.

Being stripped of her citizenship

2 minutes ago, jmjhb said:

Being stripped of her citizenship

Good

6 minutes ago, jmjhb said:

Being stripped of her citizenship

https://www.itv.com/news/2019-02-19/shamima-begum-has-uk-citizenship-revoked-by-british-government-itv-news-learns/

Brilliant news.....let the vile demented hippo’s yawn boot rot now.

Well done whoever made the decision.

4 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Well done whoever made the decision.

Sajid Javid - Home secretary.

 

Well done Mr Javid

I think I’ll have a beer and singalong to this classic

 

 

Fantastic. 

I’ve been pretty impressed with the general publics view on This and it hasn’t been allowed to be taken over by PC wankers harping on about human rights. 

Fuck her and fuck her family. 

 

Human rights are only valid if you are human Gonz

Ffs she was bringing me some fags back !!  

 

 

Cheerio lass 

Que Syria Syria...

She must have dual citizenship then - as otherwise rendering her stateless would lead to a potential legal battle.

Hope Javid hasn't jumped the gun.

Edited February 19, 20197 yr by jmjhb

5 minutes ago, jmjhb said:

She must have dual citizenship then - as otherwise rendering her stateless would lead to a potential legal battle.

Hope Javid hasn't jumped the gun.

Indeed.

She may have just become very rich, at the expense of the British taxpayer.

1 minute ago, ZiggyStardust said:

Indeed.

She may have just become very rich, at the expense of the British taxpayer.

Fucking hell. Talk about damned if he does and damned if he doesn't!

Not if she happens to cop an unfortunate one first.....