Terror Attacks

[Traf]

Two separate incidents in Syria with 100's killed including women and children but not a single mention of it on here.

 

Wonder why that is.

 

Suggestions are that we sold them the chemicals.

[Guest]

Saw these two tosspots on Sky News UK this morning. Demanding 'fair trials'. Demanding.

 

They must mean fair trials like those poor souls they beheaded. When questioned specifically on beheadings, they would neither condemn nor comment. Simply diverted the conversation into 'collateral damage from US and UK bombing'.

 

I believe that I could actually watch a bullet being put through each of their heads. Might throw up but would feel zero compassion.

 

Hopefully they will be shipped off to Guantanamo and live a long and miserable life as glory hole recipients for bull queers on corrective services good behaviour holidays earned elsewhere within the US prison system.

 

I agree with your last sentence entirely.

 

However, the first part - they are barbaric and uncivilized because they behead folk, but you want to respond by shooting them and being barbaric and uncivilized? Nah. Shooting them is too easy a way out for them. 

[madthatter]

I agree with your last sentence entirely.

 

However, the first part - they are barbaric and uncivilized because they behead folk, but you want to respond by shooting them and being barbaric and uncivilized? Nah. Shooting them is too easy a way out for them. 

 

hmm.  When you get a virus and take medicine to kill it are you being barbaric?

 

These people are a virus on humanity. 

[Guest]

hmm.  When you get a virus and take medicine to kill it are you being barbaric?

 

These people are a virus on humanity. 

 

So are loads of people. Folk that attack old people. Folk that rape kids etc etc....

 

Killing them makes us as bad as they are. If we want to consider ourselves better, we have to actually be better. 

[madthatter]

So are loads of people. Folk that attack old people. Folk that rape kids etc etc....

 

Killing them makes us as bad as they are. If we want to consider ourselves better, we have to actually be better. 

 

In cases of rape or murder etc folk doing it aren't openly trying to bring down 'free' western society at the same time;  that's the key difference.

 

I'm generally not a fan of the death penalty but for these folk I'd make an exception.  

 

We could argue morality all day and night.   All very subjective; but what isn't is someone who won't condemn slavery, beheads innocent aid workers and deliberately blows up kids in a determined effort to implant their deluded madness on the whole world.

 

Would the ends justify the means?    Who knows but I'd say the death penalty would be less barbaric than a lifetime eating bacon and getting sodomised.

[Guest]

In cases of rape or murder etc folk doing it aren't openly trying to bring down 'free' western society at the same time;  that's the key difference.

 

I'm generally not a fan of the death penalty but for these folk I'd make an exception.  

 

We could argue morality all day and night.   All very subjective; but what isn't is someone who won't condemn slavery, beheads innocent aid workers and deliberately blows up kids in a determined effort to implant their deluded madness on the whole world.

 

Would the ends justify the means?    Who knows but I'd say the death penalty would be less barbaric than a lifetime eating bacon and getting sodomised.

 

Once it gets to the point where you try and justify why one bad lot are worse than another equally bad one then to me it becomes a pointless discussion.

 

There are lots of white Americans who won't condemn slavery. Christ there are probably people on this forum who wouldn't condemn the evil that was Apartheid...

[bolty58]

I was expecting a more impressive tache and beard combo if I'm honest!

 

 

Now why would Kent be obsessed with facial hair? I wonder..........................

[bolty58]

I agree with your last sentence entirely.

 

However, the first part - they are barbaric and uncivilized because they behead folk, but you want to respond by shooting them and being barbaric and uncivilized? Nah. Shooting them is too easy a way out for them. 

 

 

I am with you brother (for once).

 

I wasn't inferring that I would like to see them get a quick and easy execution, only that I could watch that happening to them.

 

As per my last sentence, a slow and painful existence is just what they deservve.

[bolty58]

Once it gets to the point where you try and justify why one bad lot are worse than another equally bad one then to me it becomes a pointless discussion.

 

There are lots of white Americans who won't condemn slavery. Christ there are probably people on this forum who wouldn't condemn the evil that was Apartheid...

 

 

I doubt it very much. It is more a case of how far the dismantling of same should go.

 

To a sensible level where 'equality' is more or less achieved or crazy extremism which shoots the formerly 'oppressed' in the foot by either killing or driving out those with the smarts to feed the population?

 

Bringing down apartheid is one (good) thing. Eradicating the non indigenous population by murder or exportation is quote another.

 

As most being driven out are farmers, the term "you reap what you sow" seems to be highly appropriate.

[madthatter]

Once it gets to the point where you try and justify why one bad lot are worse than another equally bad one then to me it becomes a pointless discussion.

 

 

 

Well I did so in response to your comment that rapists etc kill as do terrorists

 

I'd say debating subjective morality in this instance is a smart thing to do; it's why we have degrees of murder.

 

I'm saying that these terrorists need a new category altogether

Edited April 10, 2018 by madthatter

[Guest]

Well I did so in response to your comment that rapists etc kill as do terrorists

 

I'd say debating subjective morality in this instance is a smart thing to do; it's why we have degrees of murder.

 

I'm saying that these terrorists need a new category altogether

That's nonsense. They are like all terrorists, or all people who plan mass killings. No different. The fact you want to try and make out they are is indicative of a you problem more than anything else. 

[madthatter]

That's nonsense. They are like all terrorists, or all people who plan mass killings. No different. The fact you want to try and make out they are is indicative of a you problem more than anything else. 

 

They are different (although a mass shooting is a terrorist act, is it not?)  It's the means not the ends that 'irk' me.

[miamiwhite]

9 confirmed dead and 16 injured after white rental van hits pedestrians in Toronto.

 

Sad news.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

On the news now, seems some doubt on motive/culprits.

[gonzo]

There’s plenty of videos on twitter of the bloke being arrested.

 

Looks like baldy white bloke to me. May be a hint of chink.

 

All a bit blurry like.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

No ginger hair?

[Guest]

Apparently was in a special needs programme at Thornlea

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Someone arrested in little Hulton -terrorism charges or something.

Anyone nearby?

[bolty58]

Someone arrested in little Hulton -terrorism charges or something.

Anyone nearby?

 

 

L/H White but he might be the one who's been arrested. Stocking hubcaps for shrapnel.

[L/H White]

round the corner from my mums, scary stuff.

 

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/bomb-squad-called-house-salford-14637111

[Mounts Kipper]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-44098615

[bolty58]

I was listening to a very nice young muslim feller on Sky UK the other night. He was making an impassioned plea for people to be more understanding of and friendly to people of his faith and to end the mistrust.

 

His parting shot before they went to an ad break only for the subject to have changed after the break was "why do people treat us with caution and suspicion?"

 

I wish I could e-mail him this as an answer to his question. 12 and 9. FFS, this is subhuman.

 

 

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-05-13/indonesia-explosions-outside-churches-in-surabaya/9756260

Edited May 14, 2018 by bolty58

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Heard this last night. Beyond belief and words.

[Zico]

I was listening to a very nice young muslim feller on Sky UK the other night. He was making an impassioned plea for people to be more understanding of and friendly to people of his faith and to end the mistrust.

 

His parting shot before they went to an ad break only for the subject to have changed after the break was "why do people treat us with caution and suspicion?"

 

I wish I could e-mail him this as an answer to his question. 12 and 9. FFS, this is subhuman.

 

 

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-05-13/indonesia-explosions-outside-churches-in-surabaya/9756260

 

so a pleasent bloke in England should be treated with caution and suspicion because of the actions of a family in Indonesia?

 

if that's the answer fair to say he has a point

[madthatter]

so a pleasent bloke in England should be treated with caution and suspicion because of the actions of a family in Indonesia?

 

if that's the answer fair to say he has a point

 

I totally agree 

 

but . . . same goes for white guilt/privalege etc.  Folk are happy to lump a huge group of folk together based on race and gender (often) and many think it's fine.

 

As soon as Islam gets in the mix folk are quick to defend (not you necessarily).   You could say the opposite is true with Catholicism - how many comedians make gags about kiddy fiddling Priests or whatever?  No-one would dare make an Islam related gag (whether they should or not isn't the point)

 

I'm just pointing out the double standards that many seem to be fine with.

Edited May 14, 2018 by madthatter