Site Supporter Cheese Posted December 10, 2018 Site Supporter Share Posted December 10, 2018 22 minutes ago, boltondiver said: you truly don't! Who did you vote for in the last WTO elections? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, Salford Trotter said: Whatever we end up with no doubt you'll have predicted it I’ll predict it’ll be closer than you’re prediction, granted thats not saying much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salford Trotter Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: I’ll predict it’ll be closer than you’re prediction, granted thats not saying much. For the record i said we would get a fudged deal that won't please anyone so i am pretty confident i will win and that applies to the whole process not just the withdrawal deal Edited December 10, 2018 by Salford Trotter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted December 10, 2018 Site Supporter Share Posted December 10, 2018 Tell you what Mounts Tell us what's going to happen, and I'll paste the entire prediction as my signature on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyldesley_white Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 6 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: I’ll predict it’ll be closer than you’re prediction, granted thats not saying much. And I will ask AGAIN, now does going to the WTO solve the Ireland issue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, Salford Trotter said: For the record i said we would get a fudged deal that won't please anyone so i am pretty confident i will win and that applies to the whole process not just the withdrawal deal Oh we will get a deal now will we, despite spending the last 2 and a half years saying we won’t. Unbelievable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 1 minute ago, tyldesley_white said: And I will ask AGAIN, now does going to the WTO solve the Ireland issue Why you asking me? I said we’d get a deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted December 10, 2018 Author Share Posted December 10, 2018 Ladies and gentlemen...........l.lltonight’s contestants are as follows.............Mounts......the unbeaten and undisputed Blue Blooded and Blue Passport Boltonian......versus Salford Trotter......the Mean underdog from Manchester (fishing rod out) Popcorn at the ready.......Let’s get ready to Ruuuuuuuuuuuummmmmbbbllleeee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Spider said: Tell you what Mounts Tell us what's going to happen, and I'll paste the entire prediction as my signature on here. Just check back through my posts you’ll find out what I thought would happen. Edited December 10, 2018 by Mounts Kipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter fatolive Posted December 10, 2018 Site Supporter Share Posted December 10, 2018 A lot of people complained that the border shouldnt be a sticking point as it’s easily solvable. a lot the same people saying the backstop is an issue if the border is so simple to solve then why is the backstop such an issue, surley if it’s so simple to solve the border then that gets rid of the backstop ? Or are these people actually now saying the border isn’t that simple and we won’t have time to solve it in the timeframe the deal gives? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted December 10, 2018 Site Supporter Share Posted December 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Mounts Kipper said: Oh we will get a deal now will we, despite spending the last 2 and a half years saying we won’t. Unbelievable. Clueless as ever. Salford is correct - the fudge is on the table. Unfortunately nobody likes it. You are the deluded one in this argument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, miamiwhite said: Ladies and gentlemen...........l.lltonight’s contestants are as follows.............Mounts......the unbeaten and undisputed Blue Blooded and Blue Passport Boltonian......versus Salford Trotter......the Mean underdog from Manchester (fishing rod out) Popcorn at the ready.......Let’s get ready to Ruuuuuuuuuuuummmmmbbbllleeee No point debating with someone who said a deal was impossible for over 2 years, only for him to now say they’ll be a deal. Edited December 10, 2018 by Mounts Kipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted December 10, 2018 Site Supporter Share Posted December 10, 2018 If what we are told is true, then the backstop was at the insistence of the EU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarian1979 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Agree a trade deal to take away the issue of the border. Otherwise be prepared to leave no deal. Be prepared to have an hard border. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salford Trotter Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: No point debating with someone who said a deal was impossible for over 2 years, only for him to now say they’ll be a deal. You are getting confused again Mounts. I have never said we would not get a deal eventually just one that makes us poorer. As usual you twist the words to suit your argument, quote a post of mine that clearly shows i said we would not get a deal and therefore go WTO. You conveniently forget that this is just the withdrawal deal and not the final thing. We have the toughest part of the negotiation to come if we can get through this part first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyldesley_white Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 11 minutes ago, fatolive said: A lot of people complained that the border shouldnt be a sticking point as it’s easily solvable. a lot the same people saying the backstop is an issue if the border is so simple to solve then why is the backstop such an issue, surley if it’s so simple to solve the border then that gets rid of the backstop ? Or are these people actually now saying the border isn’t that simple and we won’t have time to solve it in the timeframe the deal gives? ding, ding, ding we have a winner , please take a prize from the top self Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarian1979 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 No bollocks back stop. Let them know if a trade deal isn't forthcoming it's a hard border before we sign up to indefinite back stop we can't get out of. Not in Ireland's interest that. Thus not in the eu. Make them work for a trade deal. Extend the period til come out. Backstop isn't workable start on trade deal now only finalise withdrawal when future relationship done. Aint all totally agreed withdrawal and future by a date leave no deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 30 minutes ago, Cheese said: Who did you vote for in the last WTO elections? strange question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 19 minutes ago, tyldesley_white said: And I will ask AGAIN, now does going to the WTO solve the Ireland issue It's fine, he's in the U23s toneet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Any news on when the Blue passport will be available? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_spencer Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, tarian1979 said: No bollocks back stop. Let them know if a trade deal isn't forthcoming it's a hard border before we sign up to indefinite back stop we can't get out of. Not in Ireland's interest that. Thus not in the eu. Make them work for a trade deal. Extend the period til come out. Backstop isn't workable start on trade deal now only finalise withdrawal when future relationship done. Aint all totally agreed withdrawal and future by a date leave no deal. How exactly do you put a hard border in on a street that crosses the border several times? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted December 10, 2018 Site Supporter Share Posted December 10, 2018 On 10/10/2017 at 19:43, Mounts Kipper said: No I think we have control of all the cards because we don't have to play their game, I'm happy to stack and go WTO, what they going to do then? It's not difficult just call their bluff, that's if we have the courage to call them out. An apology Mounts You have never, as you say,, said that "we hold all the cards" To be fair, what you said last year was "we have control of all the cards". And, again, we're calling their bluff by appearing not to have the first fucking clue how to deal with Brexit. You are the soothsayer of WWays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Theresa's after a WTO; So if you want a second referendum to overturn the result of the first, be honest that this risks dividing the country again, when as a House we should be striving to bring it back together. If you want to remain part of the Single Market and the Customs Union, be open that this would require free movement, rule-taking across the economy, and ongoing financial contributions – none of which are in my view compatible with the result of the referendum. If you want to leave without a deal, be upfront that in the short term, this would cause significant economic damage to parts of our country who can least afford to bear the burden. I do not believe that any of those courses of action command a majority in this House. But notwithstanding that fact, for as long as we fail to agree a deal, the risk of an accidental no deal increases. So the Government will step up its work in preparation for that potential outcome and the Cabinet will hold further discussions on it this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyldesley_white Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, frank_spencer said: How exactly do you put a hard border in on a street that crosses the border several times? Come on Frank it's got to be easy, everything about this sorry mess was easy, then until it wasn't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter fatolive Posted December 10, 2018 Site Supporter Share Posted December 10, 2018 6 minutes ago, tarian1979 said: No bollocks back stop. Let them know if a trade deal isn't forthcoming it's a hard border before we sign up to indefinite back stop we can't get out of. Not in Ireland's interest that. Thus not in the eu. Make them work for a trade deal. Extend the period til come out. Backstop isn't workable start on trade deal now only finalise withdrawal when future relationship done. Aint all totally agreed withdrawal and future by a date leave no deal. Not in anyone’s interest that, not just Ireland or the EU, no one will benefit from that and it also goes against the GFA, which people seem to forget can’t just be ridden over as it’s a treaty, not a mere agreement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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