Mounts Kipper Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 10 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: In all honesty I think his rant was unnecessary. I found it a bit childish and triumphalist. He's made his/our point, several times over. Winding folk up now, prior to new negotiations isn't helpful neither. I agree but surely Mcguiness should have allowed him to finish his speech and wish him all the best, unfortunately her bitterness didn’t allow her to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 29, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted January 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: I agree but surely Mcguiness should have allowed him to finish his speech and wish him all the best, unfortunately her bitterness didn’t allow her to do so. See my post above- double standards by her. Quelle surprise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 (edited) The core of the EU are still seething, they can try to dress it up and offer insincere platitudes.... it is so clear to see, fuck them, Farage was 100% correct. Edited January 29, 2020 by Mounts Kipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted January 29, 2020 Author Share Posted January 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Nigel having a flag waving rant in the EU parliament. Not allowed to wave flags apparently. I didn't realise that the EU haven't actually ratified the withdrawal agreement yet; vote happening imminently. No deal still on the cards? Going going ......gone 🤭😊🇬🇧 Shall we get McFadden and Whitehead on ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darwen_white Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 10 minutes ago, miamiwhite said: Shall we get McFadden and Whitehead on ? Dom Frisby, first Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 29, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted January 29, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Mounts Kipper said: The core of the EU are still seething, they can try to dress it up and offer insincere platitudes.... it is so clear to see, fuck them, Farage wasn't 100% correct. You didn't see the interview with Mairead McGuiness did you? She was critical of BBC and the media for not being in the European parliament enough: she said if they had been there more, brexit wouldn't have happened. Unbefuckinglievable. I've heard some desperate reasoning but fuck me, truly off the scale. Edited January 29, 2020 by Tonge moor green jacket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: You didn't see the interview with Mairead McGuiness did you? She was critical of BBC and the media for not being in the European parliament enough: she said if they had been there more, brexit wouldn't have happened. Unbefuckinglievable. I've heard some desperate reasoning but fuck me, truly off the scale. Didn’t see it but it’s clear she’s one of the EU inner circle and very bitter that the U.K. has decided to walk away from the project, she fears the end of the gravy train and loss of power, quite interesting to see the split in the EU between left and liberals who are all pro EU And anti Brexit and right leaning parties who are euro sceptic and in the main pro-Brexit and the U.K. Edited January 29, 2020 by Mounts Kipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 (edited) Edited January 29, 2020 by Mounts Kipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted January 29, 2020 Moderators Share Posted January 29, 2020 Level playing field - adopt eu standards and rules But don't influence the standards or rules Smashing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, Casino said: Level playing field - adopt eu standards and rules But don't influence the standards or rules Smashing Aye alright. 👍 Edited January 29, 2020 by Mounts Kipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Casino said: Level playing field - adopt eu standards and rules But don't influence the standards or rules Smashing We already have the same standards so what are we adopting exactly? Edited January 29, 2020 by Escobarp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted January 29, 2020 Moderators Share Posted January 29, 2020 It's either stick to the current rules, which makes all this freedom to do what we want bollocks, complete and utter bollocks Or better still, as time goes by, adopt new European standards, which we have no influence on I know mounts ain't the brightest, but I'm pretty sure he posted that as a UK triumph, when in reality it's owt but Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salford Trotter Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 14 minutes ago, Escobarp said: We already have the same standards so what are we adopting exactly? I thought the Gvt want divergence, maybe I misheard that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 1 minute ago, Salford Trotter said: I thought the Gvt want divergence, maybe I misheard that I’m not saying we won’t move away and it’s in both sides interest to show flexibility. My point was currently we have the same standards so we aren’t adopting anything interesting how folk focus on that rather than the fact the eu are already talking about a free trade deal which according to some would never ever happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salford Trotter Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Escobarp said: I’m not saying we won’t move away and it’s in both sides interest to show flexibility. My point was currently we have the same standards so we aren’t adopting anything interesting how folk focus on that rather than the fact the eu are already talking about a free trade deal which according to some would never ever happen If the UK diverge then how can there be a free trade deal, the two are not bed fellows? This is not an example of a free trade deal.... Whitehall sources have told The Daily Telegraph that while Mr Johnson wants to avoid tariffs and quotas on cross-Channel trade, he will never cave in to demands for alignment on regulations, despite knowing “the consequences that flow from that”. It means Mr Johnson will tell businesses they might face extra paperwork and physical checks on goods crossing the border, a price he is willing to pay to avoid crossing his own “red lines”, which include the right to diverge on standards and regulations, full control of Britain’s fishing waters and the end of European judges’ influence in the UK. Edited January 29, 2020 by Salford Trotter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, Casino said: It's either stick to the current rules, which makes all this freedom to do what we want bollocks, complete and utter bollocks Or better still, as time goes by, adopt new European standards, which we have no influence on I know mounts ain't the brightest, but I'm pretty sure he posted that as a UK triumph, when in reality it's owt but We will follow rules on imports to the EU, that’s fine just as we will if we import to USA or any other trading partner. The article was posted to point out that the EU want zero tariffs, zero quotas, we will be able to diverge when negotiating trade deals with other countries, we’ve ended freedom of movement, returned sovereignty to our government, just as I said we would, while the self proclaimed intellectuals cry it can’t happen, we’re doomed, the common sense folk used just that to analyse what is likely to happen and have been proven correct from day one. Still the likes of ST, Casino et al, trot out utter bollocks to attempt to prove they were correct all along, get over it chaps we’re leaving you got called it wrong it happens, we’re going to be just fine and dandy, the thickos made the correct call, who’d have thunk that. Edited January 30, 2020 by Mounts Kipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 Zoe Ball said that we are leaving Europe tomorrow Another ignorant remainer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 8 minutes ago, boltondiver said: Zoe Ball said that we are leaving Europe tomorrow Another ignorant remainer We will no longer be a member of the EU after 31st January 2020. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salford Trotter Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 36 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: We will follow rules on imports to the EU, that’s fine just as we will if we import to USA or any other trading partner. The article was posted to point out that the EU want zero tariffs, zero quotas, we will be able to diverge when negotiating trade deals with other countries, we’ve ended freedom of movement, returned sovereignty to our government, just as I said we would, while the self proclaimed intellectuals cry it can’t happen, we’re doomed, the common sense folk used just that to analyse what is likely to happen and have been proven correct from day one. Still the likes of ST, Casino et al, trot out utter bollocks to attempt to prove they were correct all along, get over it chaps we’re leaving you got called it wrong it happens, we’re going to be just fine and dandy, the thickos made the correct call, who’d have thunk that. You just don't get this divergence thing do you? You said there would be a free trade deal and there could well still be one. However Johnson has already back tracked on his pre election promise of a frictionless border so there will not be a free trade deal as you have long described. He has already back tracked on austerity promises... There's a pattern here... You were warned! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Salford Trotter said: You just don't get this divergence thing do you? You said there would be a free trade deal and there could well still be one. However Johnson has already back tracked on his pre election promise of a frictionless border so there will not be a free trade deal as you have long described. He has already back tracked on austerity promises... There's a pattern here... You were warned! It’s not difficult to understand, I said tariff free trade deal would be agreed. (you said it wouldn’t) We should not be held to ransom by the EU rules and regulations it’s right and proper that we should have the option to diverge from EU rules in order to agree new trade deals, if that means some degree of checks on borders then so be it. No longer can the European Union interfere on the policy’s and direction we have set out as a country. They now know that our government has the Parliamentary majority to get its way in parliament and a leader who makes his own judgement calls and will act decisively. I think the EU have realised that the landscape has changed dramatically and after some more bluff and bluster they will agree a sensible compromise deal with minimum disruption at borders so that trade and cooperation can continue as it always has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salford Trotter Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 59 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: It’s not difficult to understand, I said tariff free trade deal would be agreed. (you said it wouldn’t) We should not be held to ransom by the EU rules and regulations it’s right and proper that we should have the option to diverge from EU rules in order to agree new trade deals, if that means some degree of checks on borders then so be it. No longer can the European Union interfere on the policy’s and direction we have set out as a country. They now know that our government has the Parliamentary majority to get its way in parliament and a leader who makes his own judgement calls and will act decisively. I think the EU have realised that the landscape has changed dramatically and after some more bluff and bluster they will agree a sensible compromise deal with minimum disruption at borders so that trade and cooperation can continue as it always has. The UK will not get a comprehensive trade deal if there is no regulatory alignment that is just a reality and not in dispute. That leaves a trade deal by sector which is not what we were promised. Just for the record, either you have such a selective memory so choose to read what suits your narrative or you're back to making stuff up again, I have not once said we wouldn't get a trade deal. What I have said is that trade deal we will eventually end up will be worse than we have today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deane koontz Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 On 28/01/2020 at 09:43, Rudy’s Message said: Time is this thread closing? Imagine the time folk have spent in this thread! I think it is only fitting for the most prolific posters to be given a Brexit badge under their name Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Salford Trotter said: The UK will not get a comprehensive trade deal if there is no regulatory alignment that is just a reality and not in dispute. That leaves a trade deal by sector which is not what we were promised. Just for the record, either you have such a selective memory so choose to read what suits your narrative or you're back to making stuff up again, I have not once said we wouldn't get a trade deal. What I have said is that trade deal we will eventually end up will be worse than we have today. Give political forecasting up as a bad job fella, you keep carrying on with the same blinkered foresight, rather than opening your mind to common sense and what is most likely to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 55 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Give political forecasting up as a bad job fella, you keep carrying on with the same blinkered foresight, rather than opening your mind to common sense and what is most likely to happen. He doesn’t do political forecasting, he does economic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 Just now, boltondiver said: He doesn’t do political forecasting, he does economic He isn't very good at that either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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