What is that "mate" of mine Sadiq Khan trying to achieve ?

 

You lost you demented little cretin, get over it and concentrate on your job you terrorist sympathiser.

Always been the latter, I mean.

17 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

No, it's always been the former. They clarified the wording of the code to make it abundantly clear.

Why?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61607739

Edited May 27, 20224 yr by Cheese

2 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Why?

Because it was a recommendation in Lord Evans' independent report. The code is frequently updated by governments. 

But the charge, as far as I can tell, is that Johnson himself has "watered down" the code whilst under investigation to avoid being placed in a position where he would be expected (note expected, not mandated) to resign in the event he was found to have breached the ministerial code by knowingly misleading parlaiment, and that this is an example of a descent into fascism.

That is simply false. The expectation a Minister should resign if found to have knowingly misled Parliament remains a part of the code.

He broke the law whilst in office.

Im all honesty, that should have been enough.

Lets just say his entire time in the job has seen him constantly stretching the purposeful ambiguities of the ministerial code.

 

The next PM - whichever colour party they represent - can now have an absolute fucking field day.

Simply do as you please, then when questioned just start every sentence with “Well, Boris got away with….”

I suppose it’s just human nature to ignore the lessons of the past. Instead, a great number of our species will forever touch the wall next to the “wet paint” sign, tongues lolling on their chins and a confused frown atop their brows.

Imagine all this partygate stuff came out during lockdown.

Cunts were rioting about some crack head getting done over in America ffs.

7 hours ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

Because it was a recommendation in Lord Evans' independent report. The code is frequently updated by governments. 

But the charge, as far as I can tell, is that Johnson himself has "watered down" the code whilst under investigation to avoid being placed in a position where he would be expected (note expected, not mandated) to resign in the event he was found to have breached the ministerial code by knowingly misleading parlaiment, and that this is an example of a descent into fascism.

That is simply false. The expectation a Minister should resign if found to have knowingly misled Parliament remains a part of the code.

Precisely! Some folk lap up crap speeches by crack pots like Mhairi Black, because it fits their agenda and political narrative. Sane folk see her speech for what it really was…a load of old cobblers. 

8 hours ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

Because it was a recommendation in Lord Evans' independent report. The code is frequently updated by governments. 

But the charge, as far as I can tell, is that Johnson himself has "watered down" the code whilst under investigation to avoid being placed in a position where he would be expected (note expected, not mandated) to resign in the event he was found to have breached the ministerial code by knowingly misleading parlaiment, and that this is an example of a descent into fascism.

That is simply false. The expectation a Minister should resign if found to have knowingly misled Parliament remains a part of the code.

Have you read the report? In no area can I see any recommendation to reduce or water down the existing code. All I can see are areas where the code needs tightening up.

5 hours ago, little whitt said:

That must be Petrol 

Diesel is that Much  up hear

  20p more then Petrol  

Always seems strange to me. Diesel is easier to make than petrol as its further down the manufacturing process. 

1 hour ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Precisely! Some folk lap up crap speeches by crack pots like Mhairi Black, because it fits their agenda and political narrative. Sane folk see her speech for what it really was…a load of old cobblers. 

 

 

30 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

Have you read the report? In no area can I see any recommendation to reduce or water down the existing code. All I can see are areas where the code needs tightening up.

The report recommends the code is tightened up and the new code follows up on that recommendation by making explicit what was always the case - that a breach of the ministerial code needn't have to be a resigning matter for minor breaches (if you have any doubt around this, just read about Baroness Warsi's penalty for breaching the ministerial code in 2012).

The claim being made by a lot of people - that Johnson has rewritten the code whilst under investigation to save his own skin - is just wrong. The recommended sanction for ministers who have knowingly misled Parliament remains the same as it was before.

I think I'm going to have to leave it there, as I and I think everyone else probably has better things to do with their Saturday. I really don't want to spend much more time defending Boris Johnson either.

 

1 hour ago, mickbrown said:

 

 

Another crackpot, seems there’s loads out there. 

3 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Another crackpot, seems there’s loads out there. 

 

So that protest bill doesn't worry you at all?

45 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

 

So that protest bill doesn't worry you at all?

No. If it stops extreme crackpots pulling down historic statues, rioting & looting in the name of protest then even better. It won’t stop genuine folk peacefully protesting or change via the ballot box…. And linking this bill to the UK moving towards fascism and a dictatorship… just don’t get me started. 

The signs are all there and have been for a while. Lies, corruption, changing laws to save bent colleagues, threatening unilateral action to change international agreements, breaking your own lockdown laws, misleading Parliament. Yet still some defend them.

1 hour ago, Mounts Kipper said:

No. If it stops extreme crackpots pulling down historic statues, rioting & looting in the name of protest then even better. It won’t stop genuine folk peacefully protesting or change via the ballot box…. And linking this bill to the UK moving towards fascism and a dictatorship… just don’t get me started. 

It will though. Silencing dissent. Keeping you in your place.

You seem to be happy being kept in your box.

Fair enough.

 

Edited May 28, 20224 yr by mickbrown

This is how it silencing dissent starts. Even a passing understanding of history or how these things develop shows you that.

Anyway, just driven past Dover - dear god, would not like to be a lorry driver. Also took me a hour to queue to get into Canterbury because they've shut the main access roundabout to stop lorries taking short cuts.

Miles and Miles and Miles of lorries just parked up. 

#frictionless

Whilst I doubt Boris wants to shovel loads of dead Jews into mass graves, the fact that so many cannot see what he’s doing is astonishing.

The thought that you can only be a dictator if you are machine gunning dissenters to death is for imbeciles.

Its very possible to be a modern, 2022 dictator simply wanting to control the masses and feather your own nest in the process.

It may not involve guns and rallies, but ideologically it amounts to the same thing.

In 10 years, we’ll wonder - really fucking wonder - why more wasn’t done to scrape this fucking whale and his toadying fraternity of barnacles from our midst.

 

I’ve posted before about the British Bill of Rights. 

44 minutes ago, Casino said:

#frictionless

It's all the fault of the EU, probably 

17 minutes ago, Sweep said:

It's all the fault of the EU, probably 

Yeah them and the remoaners.

It's all project fear anyway and won't happen.

3 hours ago, Spider said:

Whilst I doubt Boris wants to shovel loads of dead Jews into mass graves, the fact that so many cannot see what he’s doing is astonishing.

The thought that you can only be a dictator if you are machine gunning dissenters to death is for imbeciles.

Its very possible to be a modern, 2022 dictator simply wanting to control the masses and feather your own nest in the process.

It may not involve guns and rallies, but ideologically it amounts to the same thing.

In 10 years, we’ll wonder - really fucking wonder - why more wasn’t done to scrape this fucking whale and his toadying fraternity of barnacles from our midst.

 

Spot on.

Fuck knows what another 80 seat majority with this cunt at the helm will do to the country.

This prick......