Politics

[Not in Crawley]

46 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

For what it's worth, whenever the politician from a comprehensive school kind of thing comes up I think it's mostly about selective v. non-selective rather than fee-paying v. non-fee paying.

Re. the bit in bold: the school remained a part of the selective school syatem until Brown was well into his time at the University of Edinburgh.

Only because he went when he was 16.... 😉 

Kidding!

[kent_white]

Any politician that didn't attend the Deane School of Acedemic Excellence can fuck off as far as I'm concerned.

[Not in Crawley]

2 minutes ago, kent_white said:

Any politician that didn't attend the Deane School of Acedemic Excellence can fuck off as far as I'm concerned.

I bet they taught you how to grow pies at the very least.

[mickbrown]

The shit thing is that she thinks she has to make a point of it.

Shows how much they value the education that they provide for the vast majority of the population.

You're all thick fuckers - know your place.

[Cheese]

Fruitloops.

 

 

[Mounts Kipper]

Pound heading south again… interest rate rise required asap. 

[Not in Crawley]

31 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Fruitloops.

 

 

State of them. If any of my mates tipped up like that, they'd be getting told.

[Not in Crawley]

51 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

The shit thing is that she thinks she has to make a point of it.

Shows how much they value the education that they provide for the vast majority of the population.

You're all thick fuckers - know your place.

it;s also, ''You're all lazy fuckers - I managed to crawl my way out, if you couldn't you are lazy and thick...''

[Spider]

 

[Not in Crawley]

5 minutes ago, Spider said:

 

Even if you cut it different ways, why do it? Why? It takes away from any of the actual speech with something that didn't need saying. That's what I can't get my head around - why? What mileage is to be made from it?

[Spider]

2 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

Even if you cut it different ways, why do it? Why? It takes away from any of the actual speech with something that didn't need saying. That's what I can't get my head around - why? What mileage is to be made from it?

I listened to the speech.

she said “I want a Britain where women are able to feel safe walking the streets alone”

Then followed it up with absolutely nothing.

Fuck me

I could stand there all day and vomit slogans. “I want a Britain where Bolton win the league every year and everyone who voted for me gets a free hat”

 

No substance. At all.

[gonzo]

Pork Markets

[Traf]

39 minutes ago, Spider said:

I listened to the speech.

she said “I want a Britain where women are able to feel safe walking the streets alone”

Then followed it up with absolutely nothing.

Fuck me

I could stand there all day and vomit slogans. “I want a Britain where Bolton win the league every year and everyone who voted for me gets a free hat”

 

No substance. At all.

[Farrelli]

1 hour ago, mickbrown said:

The shit thing is that she thinks she has to make a point of it.

Shows how much they value the education that they provide for the vast majority of the population.

You're all thick fuckers - know your place.

She is a terrible example of comprehensive school education. 

[Not in Crawley]

45 minutes ago, Spider said:

I listened to the speech.

she said “I want a Britain where women are able to feel safe walking the streets alone”

Then followed it up with absolutely nothing.

Fuck me

I could stand there all day and vomit slogans. “I want a Britain where Bolton win the league every year and everyone who voted for me gets a free hat”

 

No substance. At all.

I noticed that, if you say something like that then follow up with something like, ''so we are listening closely to the concerns of our police forces across the country and will work hard to deliever what they need and what the public expect.''

See, it doesn't need much detail even, just a bit more of how they are going to start that process.

[Sweep]

1 hour ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Pound heading south again… interest rate rise required asap. 

Indeed, it's a right shit show trying to price anything at the minute

[Winchester White]

22 minutes ago, Sweep said:

Indeed, it's a right shit show trying to price anything at the minute

With an attitude like that these TVRs are never going to get built!

[BobyBrno]

When do we get to the point where we can start to look at the alternative? I’ve asked this question before and people respond with “anything would be better than…..”

Obviously that’s proved to be nonsense. A few on here have openly declared their allegiance to Labour, the only credible party to beat the Tories at the next election. 
It would be good to hear why they think they would do so much better under the current global economic crisis without using the phrase, ‘anyone would be better’

[Mounts Kipper]

31 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

When do we get to the point where we can start to look at the alternative? I’ve asked this question before and people respond with “anything would be better than…..”

Obviously that’s proved to be nonsense. A few on here have openly declared their allegiance to Labour, the only credible party to beat the Tories at the next election. 
It would be good to hear why they think they would do so much better under the current global economic crisis without using the phrase, ‘anyone would be better’

Surprisingly my view is as it stands Labour under Starmer look better bet then the Tories under Truss, knee jerk policies increasing borrowing with a lack of scrutiny by the OBR has caused a run on government bonds, lack of confidence in the pound and an increase in borrowing costs, add to that a refusal to implement a windfall tax that would share the burden and a needless although reversed tax reduction for those over 150k really showing this Tory party for what they are and has me leaning towards Labour. 

Edited October 5, 2022 by Mounts Kipper

[Ani]

23 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

When do we get to the point where we can start to look at the alternative? I’ve asked this question before and people respond with “anything would be better than…..”

Obviously that’s proved to be nonsense. A few on here have openly declared their allegiance to Labour, the only credible party to beat the Tories at the next election. 
It would be good to hear why they think they would do so much better under the current global economic crisis without using the phrase, ‘anyone would be better’

1 They would not be cutting taxes at a time we are facing rampant inflation.

2 As a result of the above they would have more money to invest into public services 

3 We have had 12 years of the Tories, Truss says she is wanting to reverse 2 decades of low growth/ They were the Govt for last 60% of this time

4 The Tories have just elected a new leader, their choice has ignored the advice of the previous chancellor that her policies would have the immediate impact they have had

5 The Tories have had 3 gos a picking a PM and have gone May, Johnson and Truss, if that is their talent pile I am happy to take the alternative

6 Starmer might be boring but he comes across as genuine and honest, which might be what we need

7 Brexit is still not done 

8 On a personal level the impact of last weeks actions of the Govt have meant I have to make changes to the financial plans for the rest of my life due to the risk they have bought to the economy . At the same time they proposed reducing the tax burden of people earning over £150k

I can not think of 1 reason why I would vote for the Tories, can you ? 

Plenty reasons relating to the handling of the economy and beyond. FYI I have not voted Labour for the 5-6 elections and would never have voted for Corbyn

Forgot they also lined the pockets of their mates during the pandemic and partied whilst telling us not to go to family funerals. 

Edited October 5, 2022 by Ani

[DazBob]

47 minutes ago, Sweep said:

Indeed, it's a right shit show trying to price anything at the minute

Just make all your suppliers sell to you in GBP.

[BobyBrno]

5 minutes ago, Ani said:

1 They would not be cutting taxes at a time we are facing rampant inflation.

2 As a result of the above they would have more money to invest into public services 

3 We have had 12 years of the Tories, Truss says she is wanting to reverse 2 decades of low growth/ They were the Govt for last 60% of this time

4 The Tories have just elected a new leader, their choice has ignored the advice of the previous chancellor that her policies would have the immediate impact they have had

5 The Tories have had 3 gos a picking a PM and have gone May, Johnson and Truss, if that is their talent pile I am happy to take the alternative

6 Starmer might be boring but he comes across as genuine and honest, which might be what we need

7 Brexit is still not done 

8 On a personal level the impact of last weeks actions of the Govt have meant I have to make changes to the financial plans for the rest of my life due to the risk they have bought to the economy . At the same time they proposed reducing the tax burden of people earning over £150k

I can not think of 1 reason why I would vote for the Tories, can you ? 

Plenty reasons relating to the handling of the economy and beyond. FYI I have not voted Labour for the 5-6 elections and would never have voted for Corbyn

Only your first point answers my question. Starmer was happy with the 1p cut in taxes. He was against the 45p top rate that has now been rescinded and was in essence a small part of the fiscal budget. Politically it was a huge mistake.

[BobyBrno]

11 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Surprisingly my view is as it stands Labour under Starmer look better bet then the Tories under Truss, knee jerk policies increasing borrowing with a lack of scrutiny by the OBR has caused a run on government bonds, lack of confidence in the pound and an increase in borrowing costs, add to that a refusal to implement a windfall tax that would share the burden means I’m leaning towards Labour. 

What would Labour do differently? Have they said?

[Mounts Kipper]

12 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

What would Labour do differently? Have they said?

Ani has already outlined that they wouldn’t reduce taxes, in addition they’d of costed and allowed OBR to review of their budget, and implement a windfall tax on energy companies, returning trains, buses, trams to national ownership is something I’d like to explore, don’t see any fresh ideas coming from the Tories, same old rhetoric, as it stands I think it’s time for a change. 

Edited October 5, 2022 by Mounts Kipper

[BobyBrno]

1 minute ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Ani has already outlined that they wouldn’t reduce taxes, in addition they’d of costed and allowed OBR to overview of their budget, and implemented a windfall tax, returning trains, buses, teams to national ownership is something I’d like to explore, don’t see any fresh ideas coming from the Tories, same old rhetoric, it’s time for a change. 

And what would be the cost of Nationalisation? The markets responded negatively because they thought the Tories budget was uncosted. I don’t have a problem with nationalising transport. How would that help in the short term as far as inflation and interest rates?