Politics

[mickbrown]

This stuff is meat and drink for fuckwits.

[Not in Crawley]

Another policy that doesn't do anything about from fire up a certain demographic of their base.

It'll solove nothing, hurt more than it'll help and be challenged by every court.

Also, anyone who decries the ECHR as anacronistic is an absolute simpleton.

[Not in Crawley]

Also, Cooper showed her up at the dispatch box again with basic, simple questions to which there were no answers just more inflamatory rhetoric which some folks will love to get behind.

[tyldesley_white]

2 hours ago, mickbrown said:

This stuff is meat and drink for fuckwits.

It allows them to keep punching down.

[mickbrown]

17 minutes ago, tyldesley_white said:

It allows them to keep punching down.

I'd like to think that the vast majority of folk on here can see through it.

[tyldesley_white]

3 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

I'd like to think that the vast majority of folk on here can see through it.

I would hope so, I hoped that the majority of the UK could too, but it seems that assumption is very much missed placed.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

4 hours ago, Winchester White said:

Exactly. Also, France must look at us and compare the amount of asylum seekers they and the rest of Europe are dealing with and think we have lost the plot.

France has already declared the uk as being too soft. Therefore the will be happy at measures to toughen up, won't they. 

On the other hand France continues to allow migrants to mass near the beaches, so their own record on removing them isn't great, this despite the fact that they refuse far more asylum applications than we do.

The number they allow to claim asylum, like any nation is their decision. If they have the space, infrastructure etc, then they'll manage perfectly well.

As an aside, we (the UK) uphold more ECHR decisions than others, at around 80%. Germany around 60% and Spain around 40%. Haven't got other nations' figures, but this confirms what was previously reported.

This, of itself, means the debate around being in or out of it is to an extent irrelevant, just do what is right for us. Works for others.

[royal white]

4 hours ago, Winchester White said:

Exactly. Also, France must look at us and compare the amount of asylum seekers they and the rest of Europe are dealing with and think we have lost the plot.

We must be looking at the rest of Europe and think how the fuck have we, being an Island, got one of the largest population of illegal immigrants

[Winchester White]

11 minutes ago, royal white said:

We must be looking at the rest of Europe and think how the fuck have we, being an Island, got one of the largest population of illegal immigrants

Have we?

[RoadRunnerFan]

Fuck me that new lectern is a belter

[Sweep]

1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

France has already declared the uk as being too soft. Therefore the will be happy at measures to toughen up, won't they. 

I suppose the harder the UK is seen to be, the less likely migrants might be inclined to travel to the UK...thus meaning they don't bother transiting into France

[royal white]

33 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

Have we?

Yip

[tyldesley_white]

51 minutes ago, royal white said:

We must be looking at the rest of Europe and think how the fuck have we, being an Island, got one of the largest population of illegal immigrants

Control of our own borders

[Farrelli]

1 hour ago, RoadRunnerFan said:

Fuck me that new lectern is a belter

Three word slogans for their retarded supporters.

#taking back control

#getting brexit done

#build back better

#stop the boats

#lets move on

 

[Winchester White]

42 minutes ago, royal white said:

Yip

That does surprise me, what kind of numbers are we talking about?

[mickbrown]

1 minute ago, Winchester White said:

That does surprise me, what kind of numbers are we talking about?

How do you count illegal immigrants? I'm guessing if they are here illegally that ain't exactly shouting it from the rooftops.

[Gonk]

6 hours ago, tomski said:

What power have the government taken back other than the change of passport colour?

One of the key reasons I voted remain was the fact out government are a bit rubbish(I only think the snide aspect came from Boris on)

They’ve done nothing since to tell me my original opinion was wrong. 

Even the stuff I don’t agree with like the dinghy policies they can’t do. 

They are only good at increasing tax for things such as sugar and deposit return schemes and even in the latter they’ve fucked that up.
 

 

They didn't even need to take it back, it was voluntary and they could have reversed it  :

The Government could have changed the colour of British passports back to blue at any time regardless of Brexit, it has emerged.

Theresa May described the decision to revert to the “iconic” colour as an “expression of our independence and sovereignty” away from the EU.

 

But the Home Office confirmed that the UK voluntarily adopted common passport criteria from the European Economic Community (EEC) and was not obliged to keep it.

[Spider]

1 hour ago, royal white said:

We must be looking at the rest of Europe and think how the fuck have we, being an Island, got one of the largest population of illegal immigrants

Before Cheese asks, where’s the stats for this?

[royal white]

12 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

That does surprise me, what kind of numbers are we talking about?

A million in the U.K. 

[royal white]

10 minutes ago, Spider said:

Before Cheese asks, where’s the stats for this?

Daily mail and Sunday Sport 

[tyldesley_white]

10 minutes ago, royal white said:

A million in the U.K. 

Just 1,000,000,000 not 999,999,999 or 1,000,000,001 , just a nice round

[Cheese]

3 minutes ago, tyldesley_white said:

Just 1,000,000,000 not 999,999,999 or 1,000,000,001 , just a nice round

That's a billion...

[RoadRunnerFan]

34 minutes ago, Farrelli said:

Three word slogans for their retarded supporters.

#taking back control

#getting brexit done

#build back better

#stop the boats

#lets move on

 

I sent a mate a picture of it. He genuinely thought I was taking the piss. 

[London Wanderer]

Any figure is an estimate, no way of knowing really. Though it’s probably an estimate that’s not too far off as it includes undocumented folk waiting on an appeal or those with children born here.

Looking forward to finally getting it all sorted with this tough fucker of a policy. I’m sure my gas bill and nhs waiting time will come right down as soon as the boats stop 👍 

[royal white]

7 minutes ago, tyldesley_white said:

Just 1,000,000,000 not 999,999,999 or 1,000,000,001 , just a nice round

As fromage said. That’s a billion. 
 

Its the simple things