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Site Supporter Cheese Posted January 29 Site Supporter Share Posted January 29 (edited) 5 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said: If you're suggesting online then they'll just get the other type I doubt the parents give a shit I'm not. I'm suggesting they're getting them from young adults who buy them for them. The non-disposable types are more expensive so less likely to be bought in bulk for selling on, and usually only available in specialist shops who are far less likely to risk their entire business by selling to kids. And as TMGJ says, it's also an environmental issue. Edited January 29 by Cheese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DirtySanchez Posted January 29 Members Share Posted January 29 4 minutes ago, Cheese said: I'm not. I'm suggesting they're getting them from young adults who buy them for them. The non-disposable types are more expensive and usually only available in specialist shops who are far less likely to risk their entire business by selling to kids. So the young adults still buy them Do you honestly believe kids are going to stop vaping over this? Where there's a will, there's a way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 29 Site Supporter Share Posted January 29 6 minutes ago, globaldiver said: Have a gander at Paris at the moment. All isn't rosy. As you know, I'm very keen on environmental issues, but there has seemingly been a bit of a leap too far, without properly understanding how food is produced. This is an issue both here and in the EU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 29 Site Supporter Share Posted January 29 Just now, DirtySanchez said: So the young adults still buy them Do you honestly believe kids are going to stop vaping over this? Where there's a will, there's a way If the disposable ones aren't available, they can't get them. Of course some will look at the non-disposable ones, but in essence yes, usage will drop. Will take a while, but it will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted January 29 Site Supporter Share Posted January 29 (edited) 5 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said: So the young adults still buy them Do you honestly believe kids are going to stop vaping over this? Where there's a will, there's a way I mean young adults who are old enough to legally buy them. No, of course it won't stop it outright, but it will make it more difficult. Edited January 29 by Cheese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 Lawrence Fox - Had his arse handed to him which is good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DirtySanchez Posted January 29 Members Share Posted January 29 3 minutes ago, Cheese said: I mean young adults who are old enough to legally buy them. No, of course it won't stop it outright, but it will make it more difficult. There'll be plenty places turning a blind eye Like under age drinking Shops/pubs could lose their business over it but still happens And buying knives If folk want it, they'll get it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted January 29 Site Supporter Share Posted January 29 Just now, DirtySanchez said: There'll be plenty places turning a blind eye Like under age drinking Shops/pubs could lose their business over it but still happens And buying knives If folk want it, they'll get it So we should make these things easier to access because it's going to happen anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
globaldiver Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 11 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Have a gander at Paris at the moment. All isn't rosy. As you know, I'm very keen on environmental issues, but there has seemingly been a bit of a leap too far, without properly understanding how food is produced. This is an issue both here and in the EU. It’s either the right or wrong thing to wind down farming, I don’t know. But, if you want to take people with you, communication is key. Those in charge don’t seem to be bothered to explain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DirtySanchez Posted January 29 Members Share Posted January 29 1 minute ago, Cheese said: So we should make these things easier to access because it's going to happen anyway? Not saying that I just don't know what difference it makes in the grand scheme of things And shops will lose a significant amount of income So may be tempted to sell to whoever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DirtySanchez Posted January 29 Members Share Posted January 29 4 minutes ago, Cheese said: So we should make these things easier to access because it's going to happen anyway? And I never said make it easier to access Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted January 29 Site Supporter Share Posted January 29 2 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said: Not saying that I just don't know what difference it makes in the grand scheme of things And shops will lose a significant amount of income So may be tempted to sell to whoever It will make it more difficult for kids to get hold of vapes. It will also massively reduce plastic waste. It's not rocket science. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DirtySanchez Posted January 29 Members Share Posted January 29 Just now, Cheese said: It will make it more difficult for kids to get hold of vapes. It will also massively reduce plastic waste. It's not rocket science. Read the rest of the post We have a law that says drinking under 18 is not allowed How's that working with stopping under age drinking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted January 29 Site Supporter Share Posted January 29 (edited) 5 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said: Read the rest of the post We have a law that says drinking under 18 is not allowed How's that working with stopping under age drinking? It makes it more difficult for under 18s to obtain alcohol. Fuck me. Why bother having any laws at all? People will just break them anyway. 🤦♂️ Edited January 29 by Cheese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DirtySanchez Posted January 29 Members Share Posted January 29 1 minute ago, Cheese said: It makes it more difficult for under 18s to obtain alcohol. Fuck me. How's it working in practice? Just turn up to one of our away days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lt. Aldo Raine Posted January 29 Members Share Posted January 29 17 minutes ago, globaldiver said: It’s either the right or wrong thing to wind down farming, I don’t know. But, if you want to take people with you, communication is key. Those in charge don’t seem to be bothered to explain. I fail to see how it could ever be the right thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DirtySanchez Posted January 29 Members Share Posted January 29 2 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said: How's it working in practice? Just turn up to one of our away days How's the ban on killing people with knives going? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted January 29 Site Supporter Share Posted January 29 3 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: I fail to see how it could ever be the right thing You only need to see the contribution it’s making to the grid these days to know it’s the way forward. Burning crushed up dinosaurs isn’t for everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
globaldiver Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 3 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: I fail to see how it could ever be the right thing I haven’t read about it, I guess it’s about taking us away from eating meat, as “they” are telling us it is better for the planet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted January 29 Site Supporter Share Posted January 29 Just now, DirtySanchez said: How's the ban on killing people with knives going? Deary me. You're basically saying "Why bother having laws if people are going to break them?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lt. Aldo Raine Posted January 29 Members Share Posted January 29 I think @DirtySanchez is a bit put out he can no longer buy his disposable vapes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DirtySanchez Posted January 29 Members Share Posted January 29 6 minutes ago, Cheese said: It makes it more difficult for under 18s to obtain alcohol. Fuck me. Why bother having any laws at all? People will just break them anyway. 🤦♂️ But it's not working This won't wor It's partly down to those who should know better in pubs and shops don't care They just want the money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DirtySanchez Posted January 29 Members Share Posted January 29 4 minutes ago, Cheese said: Deary me. You're basically saying "Why bother having laws if people are going to break them?" No I'm not I'm saying be realistic Re branding letters on a knife Jesus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DirtySanchez Posted January 29 Members Share Posted January 29 5 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: I think @DirtySanchez is a bit put out he can no longer buy his disposable vapes Smoked a bit at uni as a social smoker, never vaped 😃 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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