Members Lt. Aldo Raine Posted January 29 Members Share Posted January 29 Just now, DirtySanchez said: Laws say West Brom v Wolves should have passed off peacefully No they don't They say that now it didn't, those identified as responsible will face legal consequences Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DirtySanchez Posted January 29 Members Share Posted January 29 5 minutes ago, Cheese said: Based on what? Given that banning people from doing something doesn't stop them Speeding Drink driving Fighting at the footy Take your pick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DirtySanchez Posted January 29 Members Share Posted January 29 2 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: No they don't They say that now it didn't, those identified as responsible will face legal consequences Didn't stop them knowing they'd be in bother Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted January 29 Site Supporter Share Posted January 29 Just now, DirtySanchez said: Given that banning people from doing something doesn't stop them Speeding Drink driving Fighting at the footy Take your pick So we should be able to drive as fast as we want, get plastered before we drive, and batter people at football matches - without any consequences? You're clearly on a wind up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lt. Aldo Raine Posted January 29 Members Share Posted January 29 3 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said: Didn't stop them knowing they'd be in bother Perhaps not them,bl but plenty of people will have stopped themselves from doing something for fear of the legal problems they might face if caught Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DirtySanchez Posted January 29 Members Share Posted January 29 1 minute ago, Cheese said: So we should be able to drive as fast as we want, get plastered before we drive, and batter people at football matches - without any consequences? You're clearly on a wind up. I'm saying the ban will make no difference as kids will do it and their parents probably buy them It'll make no difference My reference to the other laws is in regard to people having no respect for long existing laws Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 29 Site Supporter Share Posted January 29 This is another parallel universe discussion. If we could see the same society without such bans, we could compare directly. We don't and can't, so we have to use a common sense approach. That would suggest a ban will be useful. Especially as its only the disposable ones and an alternative exists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted January 29 Site Supporter Share Posted January 29 (edited) 1 minute ago, DirtySanchez said: I'm saying the ban will make no difference as kids will do it and their parents probably buy them It'll make no difference My reference to the other laws is in regard to people having no respect for long existing laws If their parents are buying them disposable vapes (which is a stretch of the imagination), they won't be able to do that any more... Edited January 29 by Cheese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DirtySanchez Posted January 29 Members Share Posted January 29 3 minutes ago, Cheese said: If their parents are buying them disposable vapes (which is a stretch of the imagination), they won't be able to do that any more... The same parents who are turning a blind eye to their kids vaping? How's it a stretch of the imagination? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted January 29 Site Supporter Share Posted January 29 5 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said: The same parents who are turning a blind eye to their kids vaping? How's it a stretch of the imagination? You're suggesting those parents are actively buying them for their kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DirtySanchez Posted January 29 Members Share Posted January 29 Just now, Cheese said: You're suggesting those parents are actively buying them for their kids. I'm not I said turning a blind eye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted January 29 Site Supporter Share Posted January 29 1 minute ago, DirtySanchez said: I'm not I said turning a blind eye You said "their parents probably buy them". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DirtySanchez Posted January 29 Members Share Posted January 29 Just now, Cheese said: You said "their parents probably buy them". Probably isn't definitely Re read it all Kids are obviously vaping I'm sure the parents know So what will change? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 Anybody want to buy some vapes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted January 29 Site Supporter Share Posted January 29 (edited) 13 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said: Probably isn't definitely Re read it all Kids are obviously vaping I'm sure the parents know So what will change? It will be harder for kids to get hold of them. Simple as that. 🤷♂️ Edited January 29 by Cheese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakey Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 48 minutes ago, Zico said: if you want to give up smoking, do champix, works a treat Not anymore - been withdrawn. I weaned off cigs with vapes. Then went from flavoured to tobacco flavoured to encourage me to give up. Now enjoy tobacco flavoured vapes. Need motivation / method to wean off the fuckers. Seems to do me more harm in terms of breathlessness and coughing than decades of smoking ever did. I looked up champix cos I thought I'd give it a go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DirtySanchez Posted January 29 Members Share Posted January 29 2 minutes ago, Cheese said: It will be harder for kids to get hold of them. Simple as that. 🤷♂️ All those kids who used them will suddenly go 'fuck it can't any vapes anymore, I'll give up' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Winchester White Posted January 29 Site Supporter Share Posted January 29 Anyway, a sensible Conservative here. No doubt @bolty58 wouldn't approve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 Bring back sniffing solvents I say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted January 29 Moderators Share Posted January 29 16 minutes ago, wakey said: Not anymore - been withdrawn. I weaned off cigs with vapes. Then went from flavoured to tobacco flavoured to encourage me to give up. Now enjoy tobacco flavoured vapes. Need motivation / method to wean off the fuckers. Seems to do me more harm in terms of breathlessness and coughing than decades of smoking ever did. I looked up champix cos I thought I'd give it a go Just had a look That's a shame as I tried literally every viable option out there and that was the one that did it for me I know there were question marks about it when it first came out and was suggested it sent folk a bit mental One side was having the most vivid realistic dreams you've ever had and not always good ones Was worth it just for that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lt. Aldo Raine Posted January 29 Members Share Posted January 29 14 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said: All those kids who used them will suddenly go 'fuck it can't any vapes anymore, I'll give up' It'll be the next generation it has its biggest impact on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted January 29 Site Supporter Share Posted January 29 21 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said: All those kids who used them will suddenly go 'fuck it can't any vapes anymore, I'll give up' Not all, but a lot will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 3 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Ban the disposable ones. Not just the kids issue, but a significant environmental one too. Positives do outweigh the negatives. As said before though, the smoking ban is well intentioned but completely ill-conceived. Absolutely crackers. Which part of the smoking ban is completely ill-conceived may one ask? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 Surely if you want to keep using a disposable vape, you can just buy a normal vape and then dispose of it? I don't think this has been thought through! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 29 Site Supporter Share Posted January 29 Just now, kent_white said: Surely if you want to keep using a disposable vape, you can just buy a normal vape and then dispose of it? I don't think this has been thought through! Yes, though I think someone said before something about proper vape shops flogging them being more likely to be responsible. Presumably your corner shop dude, flogging cheapo disposal shite may not give much of a toss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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