Politics

[Cheese]

22 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

Might not get beyond one term if past history is anything to go by.

The scousers, paddy's and jocks who run the unions usually bring matters to a head fairly quickly.

Even Mr. Beige U Turn dare not ignore his paymasters.

Look how quickly he has changed tack on the Gaza issue now that he realises he may be alienating their muslim vote. He'll do whatever the TUC tells him to.

There are 124 Trade Unions in the UK. Only 11 are affiliated to Labour.

[DirtySanchez]

14 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

There's always one smart arse. I said 'might'. I did not say they had never had more than one term.

I just hope you get what you deserve 

That's the most recent history to judge them by. How many elections was that, three?

What's your timeline for judging them on?

If we go back to 1945, they won and did again in 1950 (two terms)

Won again in 1964 and 1966 (two terms)

Bar 1974-1979 (one term) we move back to 1997 to 2010 (three terms)

So I'm wondering where recent history points to them only being in term for one office that justifies your position

Edited February 21, 2024 by DirtySanchez

[Sweep]

1 hour ago, DirtySanchez said:

That's the most recent history to judge them by. How many elections was that, three?

What's your timeline for judging them on?

If we go back to 1945, they won and did again in 1950 (two terms)

Won again in 1964 and 1966 (two terms)

Bar 1974-1979 (one term) we move back to 1997 to 2010 (three terms)

So I'm wondering where recent history points to them only being in term for one office that justifies your position

I think NiC did a "Bolty Fact Check" on this a few months ago, and debunked the "one term" idea

[Casino]

2 hours ago, Sweep said:

Indeed. All Labour, in reality, have had to do is just not be The Conservatives. They've destroyed themselves, sadly.

 

indeed

 

i don't 'love' the reds

im just not being taken for a dick by these twats

[Casino]

2 hours ago, bolty58 said:

 

Look how quickly he has changed tack on the Gaza issue now that he realises he may be alienating their muslim vote. He'll do whatever the TUC tells him to.

who is pulling our future kings strings?

dont you realise how out of touch you are?

[Not in Crawley]

The SNP showing their true colours this afternoon.

Nice bit of playing politics with folks lives just because you've been outflanked.

[DirtySanchez]

18 minutes ago, Sweep said:

I think NiC did a "Bolty Fact Check" on this a few months ago, and debunked the "one term" idea

Then rounds it of with hoping we get what we deserve 

Very odd

[Not in Crawley]

15 minutes ago, Casino said:

who is pulling our future kings strings?

dont you realise how out of touch you are?

What Bolty doesn't realise it that the amendment was after higher level meetings - they are trying to look like a government in waiting, not a screeching opposition party like the SNP. They also have to look like they are balacing all views;

What he also doesn't acknowledge is that over the past two years there has been a significant upswing in private donations from the former boss of Autoglass - who grew up in S.Africa because his grandparents fled the Jewish pogroms in Russia, the former chair of Lloyds TSB, Gareth Quarry who has switched his funding from the Tories to Labour.

Like Bolty's actual knowledge of his home town, his views are representative of an era from long ago.

 

Edited February 21, 2024 by Not in Crawley

[Sweep]

6 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said:

Then rounds it of with hoping we get what we deserve 

Very odd

I presume he means Labour voters, not everybody 

[Not in Crawley]

1 hour ago, DirtySanchez said:

That's the most recent history to judge them by. How many elections was that, three?

What's your timeline for judging them on?

If we go back to 1945, they won and did again in 1950 (two terms)

Won again in 1964 and 1966 (two terms)

Bar 1974-1979 (one term) we move back to 1997 to 2010 (three terms)

So I'm wondering where recent history points to them only being in term for one office that justifies your position

You might as well discuss Shakespeare with a brick.

I'm not saying Bolty is thick, it's just he's got these positions which he will never, ever divert from even when there are so many facts to the contrary.

Labour is still the party of Foot and the trade unions, the Conservatives had Margaret Thatcher and she was ace and so on and so on...

[Farrelli]

Wait until Bolty finds out women have got the vote now. He’ll be livid.

[Not in Crawley]

1 minute ago, Farrelli said:

Wait until Bolty finds out women have got the vote now. He’ll be livid.

Sinister voting slags

To be fair, he's blocked so many people he probably won't find out if Labour get into power until 2058

[DirtySanchez]

13 minutes ago, Sweep said:

I presume he means Labour voters, not everybody 

He assumes I'm a labour voter 

[DirtySanchez]

14 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

You might as well discuss Shakespeare with a brick.

I'm not saying Bolty is thick, it's just he's got these positions which he will never, ever divert from even when there are so many facts to the contrary.

Labour is still the party of Foot and the trade unions, the Conservatives had Margaret Thatcher and she was ace and so on and so on...

Given he likes Slow Horses what better a quote 

"Bringing you up to speed is like explaining Norway to a dog"

[Cheese]

You've just got to laugh at this point.

 

Edited February 21, 2024 by Cheese

[MickyD]

9 hours ago, Cheese said:

There are 124 Trade Unions in the UK. Only 11 are affiliated to Labour.

Certainly the Fire Brigades Union were originally affiliated to the Labour Party but during the Blair years and particularly the major upheaval created by John Prescott, in charge of Fire Service as Office of the Deputy Prime Minister. 
The rank and file members of the FBU asked the hierarchy of the Union why we were donating to the very people who were trying divide and conquer tactics.

Amazingly, the FBU leadership were very much against having to divorce themselves from Labour but the membership told them to fuck off. 

[Cheese]

21 minutes ago, MickyD said:

The rank and file members of the FBU asked the hierarchy of the Union why we were donating to the very people who were trying divide and conquer tactics.

Amazingly, the FBU leadership were very much against having to divorce themselves from Labour but the membership told them to fuck off. 

That's how Unions work. Members decide. 🤷‍♂️

Edited February 21, 2024 by Cheese

[Casino]

Are we still waiting for the results of the enquiry?

[bolty58]

19 hours ago, DirtySanchez said:

That's the most recent history to judge them by. How many elections was that, three?

What's your timeline for judging them on?

If we go back to 1945, they won and did again in 1950 (two terms)

Won again in 1964 and 1966 (two terms)

Bar 1974-1979 (one term) we move back to 1997 to 2010 (three terms)

So I'm wondering where recent history points to them only being in term for one office that justifies your position

I don't have to justify one single thing

Socialism is a blight. An aspiration killer. You are very welcome to it.

[bolty58]

18 hours ago, Sweep said:

I think NiC did a "Bolty Fact Check" on this a few months ago, and debunked the "one term" idea

Well he is the site super brain. Just ask him.

[bolty58]

18 hours ago, Casino said:

who is pulling our future kings strings? Tree hugger types?

dont you realise how out of touch you are? That old ploy? Anyone who disagrees with you is out of touch? Aye, reet.

 

[bolty58]

17 hours ago, Sweep said:

I presume he means Labour voters, not everybody 

You should be a detective.

[bolty58]

17 hours ago, DirtySanchez said:

He assumes I'm a labour voter 

I assume you wipe shit on curtains. Not all assumptions are correct.

[bolty58]

17 hours ago, DirtySanchez said:

Given he likes Slow Horses what better a quote 

"Bringing you up to speed is like explaining Norway to a dog"

Aye reet. The site illuminati doing the 'not saying he's thick' routine and you agreeing to disagree. 

Simpler to just wait until 'his party' are being crucified. It won't be long. Still, if you want more Islamic influence which no doubt most of the anti semitic types do, vote red. If not, vote Reform. Wasted vote for the middle of the road Conservatives.

[bolty58]

9 hours ago, Casino said:

Are we still waiting for the results of the enquiry?

Are we still reading the communist rantings of Kevin Maguire?