Politics

[Casino]

play the ball, not the man

otherwise, id just dismiss everything you post

[BobyBrno]

7 minutes ago, Casino said:

play the ball, not the man

otherwise, id just dismiss everything you post

Classic WW irony.😊

[MickyD]

45 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

who is pulling our future kings strings? Tree hugger types?

dont you realise how out of touch you are? That old ploy? Anyone who disagrees with you is out of touch? Aye, reet.

Who was it on here who constantly claimed, “If that’s your response you obviously never understood the question”?

I think it was often said around the time a lot of old-school posters decided not to bother posting.

Strange that!

[Cheese]

Ian Dunt has written an excellent piece about yesterday's farce on substack.

https://iandunt.substack.com/p/commons-chaos-these-partisan-halfwits

[Farrelli]

This government are the biggest hypocrites ever. When Bozo was breaking all kinds of parliamentary rules and protocols many of them backed him entirely. Now Lindsay Hoyle has broke a convention he has to go. They need to be routed at the GE.

[Ani]

4 minutes ago, Farrelli said:

This government are the biggest hypocrites ever. When Bozo was breaking all kinds of parliamentary rules and protocols many of them backed him entirely. Now Lindsay Hoyle has broke a convention he has to go. They need to be routed at the GE.

IMO Labour have to be better than the Tories , yesterday they were nt and the fact the Tories are hypocrites does not change this. 

[deeane Koontz]

Don't know why that James O'Brien bloke has callers on if he doesn't let them speak.

[Cheese]

9 minutes ago, Ani said:

IMO Labour have to be better than the Tories , yesterday they were nt and the fact the Tories are hypocrites does not change this. 

What did Labour do wrong?

[Tonge moor green jacket]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/speaker-of-the-house-lindsay-hoyle-accused-of-political-decision-to-select-labour-amendment-on-gaza-vote-13077592

Lots of hot air overall, over what is ultimately a non-binding vote anyway.

I thought about it beforehand and felt he would allow both ammendments. 

However, there is a three line paragraph part way in the article.

It reports a shadow minister saying Labour whips pressured Hoyle into his decision by threatening to remove support for his candidacy at the next election. 

Fuck knows what is true and what is bollocks, but if that bit did turn out to be true, then not only is it blackmail, but they've hung their own man out to dry.

[Ani]

8 minutes ago, Cheese said:

What did Labour do wrong?

They , according to every report, put pressure on Hoyle to accept their amendment. 
 

People can argue that they are entitled to do that, but if they want to position themselves as a more decent face of politics that has to resonate in every action. 

[Cheese]

1 minute ago, Ani said:

They , according to every report, put pressure on Hoyle to accept their amendment. 
 

People can argue that they are entitled to do that, but if they want to position themselves as a more decent face of politics that has to resonate in every action. 

According to Hoyle himself, that's not true.

[Cheese]

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Edited February 22, 2024 by Cheese

[Farrelli]

17 minutes ago, Ani said:

IMO Labour have to be better than the Tories , yesterday they were nt and the fact the Tories are hypocrites does not change this. 

Not how I see it. The government and SNP calling for the speaker to go is appalling hypocrisy after the lies we have witnessed during their tenure. So many Ministers have stood in the HoP and lied to protect Johnson, Truss, and Sunak. They are a disgrace.

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

1 minute ago, Cheese said:

According to Hoyle himself, that's not true.

Case closed

[Cheese]

Just now, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

Case closed

Not at all, but unless there's evidence to prove he's lying...

[Ani]

5 minutes ago, Cheese said:

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Why did you edit this 'fact' 

[Cheese]

Just now, Ani said:

Why did you edit this 'fact' 

Brain fart.

[Ani]

4 minutes ago, Farrelli said:

Not how I see it. The government and SNP calling for the speaker to go is appalling hypocrisy after the lies we have witnessed during their tenure. So many Ministers have stood in the HoP and lied to protect Johnson, Truss, and Sunak. They are a disgrace.

None of which I disagree with. 
 

Do you disagree that Labour need to be better ? 

[Farrelli]

Hoyle has agreed to meet them and has apologised. Pity we didn’t see such humility when Bozo was PM.

[Farrelli]

Just now, Ani said:

None of which I disagree with. 
 

Do you disagree that Labour need to be better ? 

Define better. Of course no party covered themselves in glory yesterday but Hoyle is the person being vilified by the government. How can they have the audacity to do that with their track record.

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

10 minutes ago, Farrelli said:

Define better. Of course no party covered themselves in glory yesterday but Hoyle is the person being vilified by the government. How can they have the audacity to do that with their track record.

But that's separate to the issue itself

[Farrelli]

8 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

But that's separate to the issue itself

It is the focus of the government and SNP today. Rather than concentrate on the serious issues we face with trying to get a lasting ceasefire in Gaza they want to elect a new speaker. 

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

1 minute ago, Farrelli said:

It is the focus of the government and SNP today. Rather than concentrate on the serious issues we face with trying to get a lasting ceasefire in Gaza they want to elect a new speaker. 

It's still separate to the issue itself

For what it's worth, "the Government" has accepted the Speaker's apology and isn't calling for him to resign and the SNP, in particular, have a valid reason to be angry

[Ruba Mustafa]

The old fool has put his job n reputation on the line trying to appease sir soft starmer in covering up the cracks in the Labour Party. He will quit soon.

many hypocrites on here quite rightly holding the tories to account but making excuses for their favourites, can’t have it both ways.

Anyone with half a brain knows that Labour sleaze will be far worse than anything the torques have done, but hey-ho you’ll just have to live, learn n regret 

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

1 minute ago, Ruba Mustafa said:

The old fool has put his job n reputation on the line trying to appease sir soft starmer in covering up the cracks in the Labour Party. He will quit soon.

many hypocrites on here quite rightly holding the tories to account but making excuses for their favourites, can’t have it both ways.

Anyone with half a brain knows that Labour sleaze will be far worse than anything the torques have done, but hey-ho you’ll just have to live, learn n regret 

I'd might've agreed up until your final paragraph