Politics

[Zico]

7 hours ago, Not in Crawley said:

Well, he does love a graph

 

 

If then two are going down is someone going up?

[Casino]

And now the border force investigator

Its every fucker else with this shower of shite

Just fuck off

[Spider]

Yeah

bit the local MP has put some extra dogshit bins round the village.

He just happens to be Tory and would get votes even if he was Pol Pot because LOCAL 

[bolty58]

4 hours ago, Casino said:

And now the border force investigator

Its every fucker else with this shower of shite

Just fuck off

I will be lurking and just waiting for you to fire the first barrage at your apparent 'currently beloved' reds.

You are right about the right wing of the Conservative Party though. Would let the red clowns in for far too long probably but they should break away and ally with Reform. Then it's time for PR.

[Farrelli]

[Not in Crawley]

You see? I did say that those visionaries who had predicted a glorious future (no time commitments, please) would, when the party that they have backed to the hilt for the last 13 years, had been shown that their promises where as threadbare as their morals would back away and then the first hint of a Labour government doing anything wrong with be back on here jumping up and down like children hopped up on sugar.

The idea that if the Labour party had made the decisions that this government has over their tenure that I personally would have backed or defended them is the kind of simplistic tribalism that Bolty and his ilk plough.

Its also the reason why the Labour Party will have only taken one election cycle since Johnson became PM to get stand a chance of getting into government when it was widely predicted that it would be another decade before they were credible again. Yes, credit to Starmer for reforming the party, but also he's a lucky general - the Conservative party have been the most incompetent set of selfish anti-public servants we've have had the misfortune to be governed by.

And to tip top it all off, those buried deep within a discredited idiology, who suckle on the blue teat come hell or high water now run off to back another mad-as-a-box-of-frogs policies in Reform. You can fool the likes of Bolty over and over again, and they will always come back for more greedy to win against an enemy that is most of their own imagining and to do so damages the very fabric of the country they preport to love so very much.

[kent_white]

9 hours ago, bolty58 said:

I will be lurking and just waiting for you to fire the first barrage at your apparent 'currently beloved' reds.

You are right about the right wing of the Conservative Party though. Would let the red clowns in for far too long probably but they should break away and ally with Reform. Then it's time for PR.

Can't you just put your shoulder to the wheel like we've all had to do with Brexit? 😁

[mickbrown]

16 minutes ago, kent_white said:

Can't you just put your shoulder to the wheel like we've all had to do with Brexit? 😁

Aye, the wee chubster could add a fair bit of weight, judging from his photos 

[athywhite1958]

1 hour ago, Not in Crawley said:

You see? I did say that those visionaries who had predicted a glorious future (no time commitments, please) would, when the party that they have backed to the hilt for the last 13 years, had been shown that their promises where as threadbare as their morals would back away and then the first hint of a Labour government doing anything wrong with be back on here jumping up and down like children hopped up on sugar.

The idea that if the Labour party had made the decisions that this government has over their tenure that I personally would have backed or defended them is the kind of simplistic tribalism that Bolty and his ilk plough.

Its also the reason why the Labour Party will have only taken one election cycle since Johnson became PM to get stand a chance of getting into government when it was widely predicted that it would be another decade before they were credible again. Yes, credit to Starmer for reforming the party, but also he's a lucky general - the Conservative party have been the most incompetent set of selfish anti-public servants we've have had the misfortune to be governed by.

And to tip top it all off, those buried deep within a discredited idiology, who suckle on the blue teat come hell or high water now run off to back another mad-as-a-box-of-frogs policies in Reform. You can fool the likes of Bolty over and over again, and they will always come back for more greedy to win against an enemy that is most of their own imagining and to do so damages the very fabric of the country they preport to love so very much.

you missed a word out of the sentence - twats 😇

were, will, ideology, purport

[Farrelli]

1 hour ago, Not in Crawley said:

You see? I did say that those visionaries who had predicted a glorious future (no time commitments, please) would, when the party that they have backed to the hilt for the last 13 years, had been shown that their promises where as threadbare as their morals would back away and then the first hint of a Labour government doing anything wrong with be back on here jumping up and down like children hopped up on sugar.

The idea that if the Labour party had made the decisions that this government has over their tenure that I personally would have backed or defended them is the kind of simplistic tribalism that Bolty and his ilk plough.

Its also the reason why the Labour Party will have only taken one election cycle since Johnson became PM to get stand a chance of getting into government when it was widely predicted that it would be another decade before they were credible again. Yes, credit to Starmer for reforming the party, but also he's a lucky general - the Conservative party have been the most incompetent set of selfish anti-public servants we've have had the misfortune to be governed by.

And to tip top it all off, those buried deep within a discredited idiology, who suckle on the blue teat come hell or high water now run off to back another mad-as-a-box-of-frogs policies in Reform. You can fool the likes of Bolty over and over again, and they will always come back for more greedy to win against an enemy that is most of their own imagining and to do so damages the very fabric of the country they preport to love so very much.

Spot on. 

[Not in Crawley]

7 minutes ago, athywhite1958 said:

you missed a word out of the sentence - twats 😇

were, will, ideology, purport

I don't spellcheck these little posts - probably should do having dyslexia - but I'm sure most folk get the drift 😉

 

[athywhite1958]

2 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

I don't spellcheck these little posts - probably should do having dyslexia - but I'm sure most folk get the drift 😉

 

Sorry, I just can't be arsed with the politics part 👍

[Farrelli]

Think you might be on the wrong thread

[Sweep]

2 hours ago, Not in Crawley said:

 

Its also the reason why the Labour Party will have only taken one election cycle since Johnson became PM to get stand a chance of getting into government when it was widely predicted that it would be another decade before they were credible again.

As was correct at the time, think about it, it's virtually impossible to go from having a majority in excess of 80 seats to being kicked out of power, unless several things go horribly wrong.

I don't know historically, but could the upcoming GE be the largest ever swing and see the most amount of seats ever lost by a sitting Government?

[bolty58]

1 hour ago, kent_white said:

Can't you just put your shoulder to the wheel like we've all had to do with Brexit? 😁

Mine's never off it pal. Captain of industry 

[Not in Crawley]

3 minutes ago, Sweep said:

As was correct at the time, think about it, it's virtually impossible to go from having a majority in excess of 80 seats to being kicked out of power, unless several things go horribly wrong.

I don't know historically, but could the upcoming GE be the largest ever swing and see the most amount of seats ever lost by a sitting Government?

Yes, that's the point about Starmer being a lucky general, even with the work he has done in making Labour a votable party again, the utter shambles just wasn't predicted - I mean Brexit yes, Johnson was always a populist loon who was in charge at just the worst time for his particular brand of politics and then Truss etc etc etc

[Not in Crawley]

17 minutes ago, Farrelli said:

Think you might be on the wrong thread

Bit odd to go through and read it if he's not bothered. 

Ah well, whatever gets folk through their days.

[Sweep]

Just now, Not in Crawley said:

Yes, that's the point about Starmer being a lucky general, even with the work he has done in making Labour a votable party again, the utter shambles just wasn't predicted - I mean Brexit yes, Johnson was always a populist loon who was in charge at just the worst time for his particular brand of politics and then Truss etc etc etc

Indeed. All Labour, in reality, have had to do is just not be The Conservatives. They've destroyed themselves, sadly.

Still, a couple of terms out, and they may come back stronger and better. It will be interesting to see if they do split, when they get thrashed at the next GE

[Farrelli]

5 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

Bit odd to go through and read it if he's not bothered. 

Ah well, whatever gets folk through their days.

He is a sun reader so just looks at the pictures 😅

[Not in Crawley]

2 minutes ago, Sweep said:

Indeed. All Labour, in reality, have had to do is just not be The Conservatives. They've destroyed themselves, sadly.

Still, a couple of terms out, and they may come back stronger and better. It will be interesting to see if they do split, when they get thrashed at the next GE

The right wing will try and pull away, depending on how many vvotes they lose to Reform. If the One Nation wing can get back in control and then tackle Labour on polotics rather than populism, then maybe there will be a balance. But a lot of the problems over the last 13 years have been due to party infighting - from offering the referendum to rawanda. Tufton Street has been playing unelected poltics within government for far too long.

I don't really agree that Labour just don't have to be the Conservatives. If Corybn and the left wing of the party had been in charge I still don't think they would win this election, I think to underestimate the work done in such a short space within the party underestimates the kind of leader Starmer actually is, and the team he has built.

[Not in Crawley]

1 minute ago, Farrelli said:

He is a sun reader so just looks at the pictures 😅

Spellchecked by a Sun reader, well that's given me not a leg to stand on.

[bolty58]

3 minutes ago, Sweep said:

Indeed. All Labour, in reality, have had to do is just not be The Conservatives. They've destroyed themselves, sadly.

Still, a couple of terms out, and they may come back stronger and better. It will be interesting to see if they do split, when they get thrashed at the next GE

Might not get beyond one term if past history is anything to go by.

The scousers, paddy's and jocks who run the unions usually bring matters to a head fairly quickly.

Even Mr. Beige U Turn dare not ignore his paymasters.

Look how quickly he has changed tack on the Gaza issue now that he realises he may be alienating their muslim vote. He'll do whatever the TUC tells him to.

[little whitt]

PMQs 

now 

 

[DirtySanchez]

6 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

Might not get beyond one term if past history is anything to go by.

The scousers, paddy's and jocks who run the unions usually bring matters to a head fairly quickly.

Even Mr. Beige U Turn dare not ignore his paymasters.

Look how quickly he has changed tack on the Gaza issue now that he realises he may be alienating their muslim vote. He'll do whatever the TUC tells him to.

Apart from 1997 to 2010?

[bolty58]

1 minute ago, DirtySanchez said:

Apart from 1997 to 2010?

There's always one smart arse. I said 'might'. I did not say they had never had more than one term.

I just hope you get what you deserve