Politics

[Spider]

2 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

My link was from the Mirror and Owen Jones. Teeth clenching Tories to a man (and woman and none specific gender) keep the piss boiling. 👍

 

I haven’t bought a newspaper for about 10 years.

I honestly don’t know anyone that does.

I do see Twitter and based on that it’s just a bunch of conspiracy theorists, anti-vaxxers and assorted mental cases that were gunning for Starmer from day one.

Reform and Tory voters are bleating the loudest. Those great defenders of democracy and free speech are suddenly outraged and offended by everything they see.

Its beautiful 

[Casino]

16 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

My link was from the Mirror and Owen Jones. Teeth clenching Tories to a man (and woman and none specific gender) keep the piss boiling. 👍

 

I dont see the relevance of bringing owen jones in it

Hes nearer #teamrussia farage than he is to modern labour

[BobyBrno]

3 minutes ago, Spider said:

I haven’t bought a newspaper for about 10 years.

I honestly don’t know anyone that does.

I do see Twitter and based on that it’s just a bunch of conspiracy theorists, anti-vaxxers and assorted mental cases that were gunning for Starmer from day one.

Reform and Tory voters are bleating the loudest. Those great defenders of democracy and free speech are suddenly outraged and offended by everything they see.

Its beautiful 

All newspapers are online. I read various papers, left and right. Most of my links are from the Guardian. You should read it sometime. Remember, 2/3 of voters didn’t vote Labour. Don’t get so touchy when people criticise them. It’s a politics thread. There will be lots more to come. 

[Spider]

1 minute ago, BobyBrno said:

All newspapers are online. I read various papers, left and right. Most of my links are from the Guardian. You should read it sometime. Remember, 2/3 of voters didn’t vote Labour. Don’t get so touchy when people criticise them. It’s a politics thread. There will be lots more to come. 

Criticise away.

I see what folk are whining about. I watched Reeves on the TV this morning and she was grilled by the hapless Susanna Reid. After seeing Tory MP’s bumble and clatter their way through such interviews for over a decade, Reeves was statesmanlike by comparison.

Im sorry your team didn’t win. But look on the bright side, you’ve got 5 long years to foam at the mouth from the terraces now. 

Its still all Labours fault, they’re just on the other side of the chamber now.

Labour will make mistakes, all parties do. But they’re not shitting directly into our pockets and laughing like the last lot did.

[BobyBrno]

5 minutes ago, Casino said:

I dont see the relevance of bringing owen jones in it

Hes nearer #teamrussia farage than he is to modern labour

Modern Labour? 😅

He just happened to be the one who summed up the hypocrisy of ‘Modern Labour’

Protest will not be tolerated!

[BobyBrno]

3 minutes ago, Spider said:

Criticise away.

I see what folk are whining about. I watched Reeves on the TV this morning and she was grilled by the hapless Susanna Reid. After seeing Tory MP’s bumble and clatter their way through such interviews for over a decade, Reeves was statesmanlike by comparison.

Im sorry your team didn’t win. But look on the bright side, you’ve got 5 long years to foam at the mouth from the terraces now. 

Its still all Labours fault, they’re just on the other side of the chamber now.

Labour will make mistakes, all parties do. But they’re not shitting directly into our pockets and laughing like the last lot did.

Statesmanlike? She’s the first female Chancellor don’t you know. She’ll probably be the last. 

[Spider]

8 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

Statesmanlike? She’s the first female Chancellor don’t you know. She’ll probably be the last. 

Labour malfeasance has stretched as far as Starmer getting a complimentary ticket to the football and some free jeans from Talibs.

They’ve a long way to go yet before they start to even lace the boots of the previous mob.

Fuel prices are low again. 😍

[bolty58]

1 hour ago, Sweep said:

They were still popular with some, the same as the Labour Party are with some at present. The good news, is it they're shit, then we can get rid in five years time. They've still got an awful long way to go to be as bad as the last lot I reckon

Only a matter of time.

The penny always drops eventually. They've not even started the real loony left stuff yet. It will come.

[bolty58]

26 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

Statesmanlike? She’s the first female Chancellor don’t you know. She’ll probably be the last. 

How long before she is forced to reverse the winter fuel allowance gaffe or, at the very least make a gesture of compensation which will, in the overall scheme of things, negate what she was trying to achieve in the first place?

The robotic, cold charade will crack eventually. The oestrogen will see to that. A weepy blubbering mess will come.

Even the imperious and matchless Maggie cracked but kept it under to the day she was getting into the car when leaving no. 10 for the very last time.

Still over 3 months to Q1 2025. I think I gave them too much credit in suggesting that this would be when their non 'my party' type supporters on here become erstwhile supporters. Could be well before that the way they are going.

 

[Spider]

4 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

How long before she is forced to reverse the winter fuel allowance gaffe or, at the very least make a gesture of compensation which will, in the overall scheme of things, negate what she was trying to achieve in the first place?

The robotic, cold charade will crack eventually. The oestrogen will see to that. A weepy blubbering mess will come.

Even the imperious and matchless Maggie cracked but kept it under to the day she was getting into the car when leaving no. 10 for the very last time.

Still over 3 months to Q1 2025. I think I gave them too much credit in suggesting that this would be when their non 'my party' type supporters on here become erstwhile supporters. Could be well before that the way they are going.

 

You’ve more in common with Joe Biden than you’d like to think.

[mickbrown]

Five years will fly by chaps😁

[Sweep]

11 hours ago, BobyBrno said:

 Remember, 2/3 of voters didn’t vote Labour. 

As an aside, has any UK Government (in modern times) ever got over 50% of voters to actually vote for them, or even got anywhere near close?  -  I presume not, but I really don't know

[BobyBrno]

4 minutes ago, Sweep said:

As an aside, has any UK Government (in modern times) ever got over 50% of voters to actually vote for them, or even got anywhere near close?  -  I presume not, but I really don't know

Not sure. I doubt any government has had such a large majority for such a small vote share though. My point is that the criticism of this government has come from all quarters, much of it from within its own party.

[kent_white]

41 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

Not sure. I doubt any government has had such a large majority for such a small vote share though. My point is that the criticism of this government has come from all quarters, much of it from within its own party.

This seems to suggest that it's not happened since the second world war........

[mickbrown]

2 hours ago, BobyBrno said:

Not sure. I doubt any government has had such a large majority for such a small vote share though. My point is that the criticism of this government has come from all quarters, much of it from within its own party.

Just another 5 years to get through Boby.

It'll fly by. Then you can vote for a candidate who doesn't know who the PM is again😀

[Not in Crawley]

17 hours ago, BobyBrno said:

My link was from the Mirror and Owen Jones. Teeth clenching Tories to a man (and woman and none specific gender) keep the piss boiling. 👍

 

Eh? Owen Jones left his support of the Labour party even before the last election, and the protestor was really good for Reeves, shows that the Labour Party has moved on from being content to shout from the fringes of the left wing of the party, but now are are a pragmatic social democratic party of government. Debate the issues, but it is no longer a party in hock to fringe movements, unlike a ceratin other previous government....

What your links show, is how far the party has moved into being a party and government that works for the people of Britain. Many thanks.

[Not in Crawley]

I mean he can put a glass eye to sleep as a orator, but this is a good speech from Starmer - its like a breath of fresh air for serious, clear headed government tackling a range of policy issues rather than just wanging on about Europe and Immigration with three word soundbites.

[BobyBrno]

2 hours ago, mickbrown said:

Just another 5 years to get through Boby.

It'll fly by. Then you can vote for a candidate who doesn't know who the PM is again😀

She knows the difference between a sausage and a hostage though 😅

[Not in Crawley]

At least Starmer is tackling the Pork Market issues Truss outlined

#returnofthesausages

[BobyBrno]

 

[Not in Crawley]

This Lake Distict riff, its a very nice part for those one-nationers regarding history and heritage, this music part about his first trip abroad - rather than having holiday's abroad as a given and the aspiration for those from working class backgrounds to enjoy music, arts, travel, breaking through backgrounds - nice touches from the speechwriters here.

[gonzo]

1929 was a stonker for tories there. 

[Spider]

This is funny. 😁 

[Spider]

Jewish sausages.

Thats a tricky one 😁

[Spider]