Politics

[DazBob]

8 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

Thinly veiled, I’m jetting off and won’t give a shit for the foreseeable.👍

Enjoy 🍻

[royal white]

5 hours ago, gonzo said:

It's always been the problem.

It's the way it's managed and ran, not the amount spent on it.

It's a bottomless pit.

The whole system just hemorrhages money from top to bottom. 

According to Wes Streeting, they’re pausing the building of new hospitals so that money (10 billion) can be spent on overseas climate change which will then prevent people being washed up on our shores. 
 

 

[Ani]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0qejd0njpeo
 

Never heard of this lot before. 

[Farrelli]

14 hours ago, royal white said:

According to Wes Streeting, they’re pausing the building of new hospitals so that money (10 billion) can be spent on overseas climate change which will then prevent people being washed up on our shores. 
 

 

That isn’t the story though is it? The issue is that money for some hospital building projects was going to run out in March due to poor planning by the last government. It is sensible to pause and review those projects so that we don’t end up with half built hospitals. The stuff about overseas funding is just a journalist throwing in a petty attack on an irrelevant subject. Desperate stuff.

[royal white]

31 minutes ago, Farrelli said:

That isn’t the story though is it? The issue is that money for some hospital building projects was going to run out in March due to poor planning by the last government. It is sensible to pause and review those projects so that we don’t end up with half built hospitals. The stuff about overseas funding is just a journalist throwing in a petty attack on an irrelevant subject. Desperate stuff.

I’m just repeating what the Labour MP said. 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Money was going to run out eh?

Well then, don't go giving ridiculous wage rises to all sorts of people, if they're not affordable. 

Each government picks its spending and gets judged on it.

 

[Ani]

8 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Money was going to run out eh?

Well then, don't go giving ridiculous wage rises to all sorts of people, if they're not affordable. 

Each government picks its spending and gets judged on it.

 

So let the strikes continue that were costing more than the settlement ? 
 

As you say each government picks its spending as the Tories did and handed the keys of number 10 over without a whimper 

[Farrelli]

8 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Money was going to run out eh?

Well then, don't go giving ridiculous wage rises to all sorts of people, if they're not affordable. 

Each government picks its spending and gets judged on it.

 

Paying doctors and nurses what they should be paid is not ridiculous. That will help keep them in the NHS. What is ridiculous is spending £700 million on a policy that achieved nothing and having to incinerate £1.5 billion worth of good PPE because the government procurement was corrupt under the Tories. 

[royal white]

4 minutes ago, Farrelli said:

Paying doctors and nurses what they should be paid is not ridiculous. That will help keep them in the NHS. What is ridiculous is spending £700 million on a policy that achieved nothing and having to incinerate £1.5 billion worth of good PPE because the government procurement was corrupt under the Tories. 

It’s a shame they won’t have hospitals to work in 😉

[Sweep]

28 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Money was going to run out eh?

Well then, don't go giving ridiculous wage rises to all sorts of people, if they're not affordable. 

Each government picks its spending and gets judged on it.

 

indeed, and they'll always get criticized for it as well, no matter who it is and what they've spent it on.

For what it's worth, if I was the Labour Party, then I'd be hammering the taxes now to claw back some money - they're at the start of a 5 year term, so they may as well do all the hard yards now in the first couple of years, and then go on the charm offensive for the final 3 years or so. The majority of the voting public are absolutely thick as fuck, and won't even remember what's happening today in 5 years time. As a sitting Government, you can do what you want in the first two years, as long as you're pointing in the right direction and being seen to help people in the final 2 or 3 years

[Farrelli]

27 minutes ago, royal white said:

It’s a shame they won’t have hospitals to work in 😉

Indeed. #team boris #in Liz we trust

[RoadRunnerFan]

38 minutes ago, royal white said:

It’s a shame they won’t have hospitals to work in 😉

It's the opposite way round. 

You can build as many new buildings as you like but if you can't staff them it's a waste of time. 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

4 hours ago, Ani said:

So let the strikes continue that were costing more than the settlement ? 
 

As you say each government picks its spending as the Tories did and handed the keys of number 10 over without a whimper 

Second paragraph quite right.

 

First, not so.

[bolty58]

4 hours ago, Ani said:

So let the strikes continue that were costing more than the settlement ? 
 

 

You think they are going to stop? 

Do you think there's any chance that other unions might think "Well if they are getting that much! We have them where we want them so lets go for it"? I have seen this all before under the reds and on more than one occasion. I predicted Q1 next year when the shit would hit the fan. I may have been giving them too long a honeymoon.

I wonder if yet another Labour inspired Winter Of Discontent is on the cards. I wouldn't bet against it.

[Winchester White]

We need a functioning health care system and folk like @bolty58 want to smash unions rather than pay folk what they deserve. Never mind loads are fucking off to his country where they get paid more of course.

Edited September 13, 2024 by Winchester White
Typo

[Casino]

5 hours ago, RoadRunnerFan said:

It's the opposite way round. 

You can build as many new buildings as you like but if you can't staff them it's a waste of time. 

like the 'nightingales'

thank fuck we never needed them cos y'know what, theres a staff shortage

[Casino]

1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

First, not so.

 

how do you put a value on a nation of cripples who cant get treatment and actually contribute cos the medics are on strike, hence increased waiting lists

not my words remember, but your corrupt mates

[Farrelli]

3 hours ago, Casino said:

like the 'nightingales'

thank fuck we never needed them cos y'know what, theres a staff shortage

The Tories would have proposed a round of applause once a week rather than paying them properly and hoped that was enough.

[RoadRunnerFan]

6 minutes ago, Farrelli said:

The Tories would have proposed a round of applause once a week rather than paying them properly and hoped that was enough.

Harsh that. 

They would have chucked in an annual Spitfire flypast too.

[bolty58]

3 hours ago, RoadRunnerFan said:

Harsh that. 

They would have chucked in a daily water cannoning and cattle prodding too.

Infinitely preferable.

[RoadRunnerFan]

3 hours ago, bolty58 said:

Infinitely preferable.

Innovative solution. 

Nothing says 'aspiration' quite like 6,000 volts. 

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

The new Government seemingly not keen on scrutiny either

 

[Winchester White]

1 hour ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

The new Government seemingly not keen on scrutiny either

 

I agree but to conflate the two is disingenuous imo.

I do however expect the new government to behave much better than the last one. They have allowed themselves to be criticised here and quite fairly too.

[gonzo]

 

 

 

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

I wonder what the Premier League wants in exchange for four hospitality tickets to a Taylor Swift concert

Nothing relating to the Football Governance Bill, I'm sure