Politics

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

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[mickbrown]

2 hours ago, BobyBrno said:

She knows the difference between a sausage and a hostage though 😅

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[Sweep]

1 hour ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

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COVID didn't see enough of them off, hopefully the new winter fuel policy will. 

 

[BobyBrno]

[Spider]

Prime ministers make these gaffes all the time. I remember when Boris Johnson said that time “there were no parties in number 10” and we all laughed because what he meant to say was the exact opposite.

Chortle 😁

[RoadRunnerFan]

Wonder if the sausages were made from that Great British export Peppa Pig?

[Spider]

Liz Truss is in Beijing taking handcuffs off a load of Cumberland sausages as we speak

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

25 minutes ago, Sweep said:

COVID didn't see enough of them off, hopefully the new winter fuel policy will. 

 

I did think someone might make that comment, and I did also think it'd be you 🙂

[MancWanderer]

Sounds like it's been a tough party conference. Good. They need an early test 

Come through the issues raised solidly and it will give folk confidence

I do worry about the spectre of the unions though. Be interesting to see how he handles them. @bolty58 loves to chuck in the grenades regarding the unions, and he has a point to be fair. Starmer just needs to make sure that he doesn't make the past mistakes of Labour in not handling them well 

I've never nailed my colours on to one party. I just want a decent government to run the country whoever it may be

[Spider]

Sausages aside

They are clearly proceeding with caution.

Fine by me, we need bland politics for a while rather than the soap opera we’ve had for so long.

The unions will always be the drag factor for Labour, be interesting to see how Starmer deals with them. But so far, they’ve not done much to be judged on, apart from go to the football and say sausages.

[Spider]

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

[royal white]

[bolty58]

4 hours ago, MancWanderer said:

I do worry about the spectre of the unions though. Be interesting to see how he handles them. @bolty58 loves to chuck in the grenades regarding the unions

Mortally wounded. 

It won't be so much how he handles them as they direct him.

I see the nurses have rejected a 5.5% pay rise. I wonder why? Others in the same professional arena have had 22% and 15%. Just who do these nurses think they are?

This is just the start. Besides worrying about invasion on the southern shores, it will be soon time to start worrying about inflation as unions away from the health arena get their teeth stuck into their puppets.

I do hope none of you have large mortgages.

[bolty58]

4 hours ago, Sweep said:

COVID didn't see enough of them off, hopefully the new winter fuel policy will. 

 

Socialists? There's always hope.

[MancWanderer]

2 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

Mortally wounded. 

Doubtful 

[bolty58]

3 minutes ago, MancWanderer said:

Doubtful 

 Delicate soul me mate (accent on 'soul'  ). I used to buy me mother flowers and all that.

Licking my wounds and searching for the Fennings Little Healers.

[MancWanderer]

1 minute ago, bolty58 said:

 Delicate soul me mate (accent on 'soul'  ). I used to buy me mother flowers and all that.

Licking my wounds and searching for the Fennings Little Healers.

Here’s a union that I gues that you’ll be partial to then….

 

[Winchester White]

7 hours ago, bolty58 said:

 I do hope none of you have large mortgages.

Big enough to see a £400 rise thanks to the next Thatcher.

Yet we need to worry about nurses being paid properly.

[tomski]

Mine is up on 30th Nov. I’m about to agree. But still holding out for another interest rate drop before fixing 2 years

[Sweep]

9 hours ago, bolty58 said:

Socialists? There's always hope.

Owd Duffers, Socialists, Vegans, ANTIFA types, Far Right types the lot of them

[Casino]

1 hour ago, Winchester White said:

Big enough to see a £400 rise thanks to the next Thatcher.

Yet we need to worry about nurses being paid properly.

On nurses, we need to pay enough to retain the good ones

We need to do that partly so ee can fuck the shit ones off

They need to be realistic though in that theres a finite pot and more of it needs to go to primary care

In time, that should reduce demand on nurses

 

 

Is nurses pay not under an independent pay review board?

[Sweep]

1 hour ago, tomski said:

Mine is up on 30th Nov. I’m about to agree. But still holding out for another interest rate drop before fixing 2 years

A girl my wife works with is in the exact same boat, her current deal finishes end of November - she's still got nearly £400K outstanding, all I know is that she's currently on 1.59%, so she's in for some sort of massive headache. Especially as she "borrowed" about £60K (I think) on one of these help to buy equity loan schemes. I don't know the ins and outs of it, but I know it's causing them some real problems and narrowing the field for them.

Not that I was overly listening, but I think Mrs Sweep said the monthly cost would be going from something like £1700 to £3100 per month (I may have got that wrong, as that does look a bit too big of a leap)

[Sweep]

5 minutes ago, Casino said:

Is nurses pay not under an independent pay review board?

Yes, and that's as it should be

[little whitt]

3 hours ago, Casino said:

On nurses, we need to pay enough to retain the good ones

We need to do that partly so ee can fuck the shit ones off

They need to be realistic though in that theres a finite pot and more of it needs to go to primary care

In time, that should reduce demand on nurses

 

 

Is nurses pay not under an independent pay review board?

Do most not work for  

Agencies 

and they have the 

NHS Pants down 

With the cost they pay them