Politics

[Ani]

1 hour ago, gonzo said:

Last nail in the coffin for small businesses.

 

Which bit ? Only seen headlines.

All seem a bit nothingy. 

[Spider]

Just waiting for the financial markets to collapse as predicted 

[kent_white]

It does seem to be a bit of a damp squib after all the dramatics and knicker wetting. Early indications seem to be that the markets haven't reacted poorly. 

[waffer cup 07]

All the speculation for a month before hand, then really very little, which says to me, how are they going to recover the economy.

[royal white]

23 minutes ago, Ani said:

Which bit ? Only seen headlines.

All seem a bit nothingy. 

£1 rise on all chamois leather 

[Spider]

The biggest headline is that the OBR leaked it 30 minutes early.

If that’s the big issue, then I’ll cancel my Armageddon plans for the time being.

[Ani]

17 minutes ago, waffer cup 07 said:

All the speculation for a month before hand, then really very little, which says to me, how are they going to recover the economy.

Growth forecast at just 1% seems to imply they are nt.

The 2 child cap will get the headlines 

[Spider]

30 minutes ago, Ani said:

Growth forecast at just 1% seems to imply they are nt.

The 2 child cap will get the headlines 

The child cap is, for me, a big of a negative. You shouldn't be having 3+ children if you can't afford them. It certainly plays into the hands of people who see it as a means to avoid working.

[little whitt]

3p a mile for ELE Cars 

[little whitt]

How much have 

TABS 

and 

CARLING 

Gone Up 

[mickbrown]

 

2 minutes ago, little whitt said:

How much have 

TABS 

and 

CARLING 

Gone Up 

Don't care, I'm not a scrubber

[Ani]

40 minutes ago, Spider said:

The child cap is, for me, a big of a negative. You shouldn't be having 3+ children if you can't afford them. It certainly plays into the hands of people who see it as a means to avoid working.

I am 50/50 on it. 
 

All the comments see to be aimed at the parents, but every bit of research will show you kids born into poverty are massively more likely to end up in poverty. If we want to get kids out of that trap what do we do ? 
 

I do get the flip side that lots of people think the money will go on more fags, WKD and getting their nails done. Since the cap was introduced do not think there has been a significant change in number of kids per family. (Sure I read that but not 100%)

There does seem to some comment that certain segments will benefit more from this, which I assume is Catholics, my step kids went to a Catholic school and there were plenty there with over 2 kids. 😇😂

[Ani]

Looking at the impact thing and other than freezing the income tax bands not sure I am hit at all.

 

Changing the salary sacrifice schemes will impact a lot of older folk approaching retirement but suppose if you can afford to be squirrelling money away why should it be tax free ? 

[Spider]

I’m not worse off, if anything my company should do well as the green levy could reduce electric prices which is good (and may negate that 3p a mile for EV’s).

my house is just under the £5million mark so the mansion tax won’t be an issue.

All a bit meh, other than that. Boring. A Starmer budget.

 

[Ani]

2 hours ago, L/H White said:

Lovely 

 

Did you miss

 

’We are freezing Russian assets….and I do not mean the honourable member for Clacton.’ 

[Sweep]

1 hour ago, Spider said:

The child cap is, for me, a big of a negative. You shouldn't be having 3+ children if you can't afford them. It certainly plays into the hands of people who see it as a means to avoid working.

You shouldn't be having any children if you can't afford them, never mind 3+

It's probably just a sensationalist headline, but I read earlier that a family with 6+ children, will be £14K per year better off

[Spider]

1 minute ago, Ani said:

Did you miss

 

’We are freezing Russian assets….and I do not mean the honourable member for Clacton.’ 

That was pretty good. No doubt Nigel’s simpering bootlickers will be acting all snowflakey about that comment.

[Sweep]

2 minutes ago, Ani said:

Did you miss

 

’We are freezing Russian assets….and I do not mean the honourable member for Clacton.’ 

that was quite amusing

[Sweep]

4 hours ago, gonzo said:

Last nail in the coffin for small businesses.

 

 

2 hours ago, Ani said:

Which bit ? Only seen headlines.

All seem a bit nothingy. 

I guess the rise in minimum wage, which will hurt some.

Although Farage wants to scrap minimum wage, so that should please small businesses moving forward......

 

All in all, a bit of a nothing budget, and not as bad as some on here where hoping it would be

[Winchester White]

1 hour ago, Sweep said:

You shouldn't be having any children if you can't afford them, never mind 3+

It's probably just a sensationalist headline, but I read earlier that a family with 6+ children, will be £14K per year better off

It's a drop in the ocean and we massively need the population to increase their kid output if you want to reduce immigration.

What would you prefer?

[Tonge moor green jacket]

2 hours ago, little whitt said:

3p a mile for ELE Cars 

Bit of an odd one this.

I asked before; how would they do it?

Presumably at the mot, but that means nothing for 3 years.

Hardly going to encourage new purchases though, which will infuriate suppliers, given they have government targets to hit.

"Fines" issued for not selling a given percentage of evs amongst total sales.

Bollocksed either way.

[Spider]

3 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Bit of an odd one this.

I asked before; how would they do it?

Presumably at the mot, but that means nothing for 3 years.

Hardly going to encourage new purchases though, which will infuriate suppliers, given they have government targets to hit.

"Fines" issued for not selling a given percentage of evs amongst total sales.

Bollocksed either way.

15,000 miles a year is average for most people. Thats £450

Petrol car of similar status to a Tesla is £425 a year.

So it’s about the same.

But its cheaper to fuel an EV.

So still the more economical choice.

Most people who are buying a car won’t consult the reform party about what to do first (unless they have severe dementia or have shat their brains down a grid), so will do the maths and go from there.

[Winchester White]

13 minutes ago, Spider said:

15,000 miles a year is average for most people. Thats £450

Petrol car of similar status to a Tesla is £425 a year.

So it’s about the same.

But its cheaper to fuel an EV.

So still the more economical choice.

Most people who are buying a car won’t consult the reform party about what to do first (unless they have severe dementia or have shat their brains down a grid), so will do the maths and go from there.

To be fair most people don't do anywhere near 15k a year.

If I had to pay a couple of pence a mile (mine is a pHEV) then so be it, it would cost about 200 quid a year.

Why fuck about with PPM anyway, just add it to road tax and actually enforce it for all cars.

[little whitt]

[Cheese]

1 minute ago, little whitt said:

Or just don't pay any MADMAX anyway, then commit a crime that means you can spend a while living for free at the expense of people who actually do pay tax.