4 hours ago, Spider said:

It’s nice to remind ourselves how good things used to be. 🥰

Absolutely. Important to understand why they're not, and not live in denial.

 

6 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Absolutely. Important to understand why they're not, and not live in denial.

 

Because we don’t have all those lovely hospitals.

at least we’re no longer run by pathological liars

23 hours ago, Spider said:

How’s Boris getting on with them 40 hospitals?

Boris was sacked because he was full of shit.

How is yer man doing with smashing the gangs?

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cly07pyde00o

Edited February 26Feb 26 by Dimron

7 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Absolutely. Important to understand why they're not, and not live in denial.

 

Why are things not what they used to be in your opinion? 

37 minutes ago, Dimron said:

Boris was sacked because he was full of shit.

How is yer man doing with smashing the gangs?

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cly07pyde00o

The trend of arrivals is downward in general.

it won’t happen overnight. The Tories let the genie out of the bottle and despite what reform and similar right wing mongherders will tell you, the Navy isn’t allowed to machine gun dinghies in the channel.

Edited February 26Feb 26 by Spider

2 hours ago, jmjhb said:

things that didn't happen often seem to end with a loud cheer 

Zia's been played like a fiddle here! 

 

But Bennett is Reform too, isn’t he?

Suspect the Greens have won this judging by the narrative on GBNews.

8 minutes ago, jmjhb said:

Suspect the Greens have won this judging by the narrative on GBNews.

Maybe but I think Labour may surprise and sneak through. Personally I feel the best result would be a Reform win, then Labour but certainly not the Greens under any circumstance after their obvious sectarianism.

16 minutes ago, Whitesince63 said:

Maybe but I think Labour may surprise and sneak through. Personally I feel the best result would be a Reform win, then Labour but certainly not the Greens under any circumstance after their obvious sectarianism.

Sectarianism is fine though something about Celtic rangers the Ira and Bobby sands.

be reet 

Did no one hear the new Education reforms this week? And an actual legislator saying we will see the benfits of this in 20 years?

Thats what we put trust in. 

Short term is for the likes of Reform until they bump into reality, as has happened in Kent.

Reports of family voting ! This could run and run ! 

2 minutes ago, Ani said:

Reports of family voting ! This could run and run ! 

GBNews wouldn't be pushing this agenda if it was a 85% white constituency, let's face it.

Just now, jmjhb said:

GBNews wouldn't be pushing this agenda if it was a 85% white constituency, let's face it.

Reported on BBC 

9 minutes ago, Ani said:

Reported on BBC 

it's literally based on four blokes going round polling stations

Ready-made excuse for Reform. All it'll do is radicalise the bots and loons on X further claiming the election was 'stolen'. 

Edited February 26Feb 26 by jmjhb

10 minutes ago, jmjhb said:

it's literally based on four blokes going round polling stations

Ready-made excuse for Reform. All it'll do is radicalise the bots and loons on X further claiming the election was 'stolen'. 

Are they a totally independent group that have been this for years ? 

3 minutes ago, Ani said:

Are they a totally independent group that have been this for years ? 

Good question.

 

Dan Hodges from the Mail expresses some scepticism.

Why, for instance, would they wait until the polls have closed instead of reporting it to the election officers at the time?

 

Democracy Volunteers are accredited by the Electoral Commission fwiw

1 minute ago, jmjhb said:

Good question.

 

Dan Hodges from the Mail expresses some scepticism.

Why, for instance, would they wait until the polls have closed instead of reporting it to the election officers at the time?

 

I had never heard of them, looking at their website they look like a bunch of ‘do gooders’ with too much time on their hands. But nothing to imply they would be trying to make a story up either. 
 

It does sound a bit Pound Land Trump as well. 

9 minutes ago, Ani said:

I had never heard of them, looking at their website they look like a bunch of ‘do gooders’ with too much time on their hands. But nothing to imply they would be trying to make a story up either. 
 

It does sound a bit Pound Land Trump as well. 

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From their website:

"Democracy Volunteers deployed four accredited election observers across the Gorton and Denton Westminster Parliamentary By-election today.  The team attended 22 of the 45 polling stations in the constituency, spending between 30 and 45 minutes in each.

The observers worked in pairs using the international standard for election observation – the four eyes principle"

So two teams of two went to 11 different polling stations in the area, presumably ones at different ends of the borough, travelling between them and spent up to 45 minutes in each.

Bloody long day for them! Wonder if they took time out for lunch and dinner.

4 minutes ago, jmjhb said:

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From their website:

"Democracy Volunteers deployed four accredited election observers across the Gorton and Denton Westminster Parliamentary By-election today.  The team attended 22 of the 45 polling stations in the constituency, spending between 30 and 45 minutes in each.

The observers worked in pairs using the international standard for election observation – the four eyes principle"

So two teams of two went to 11 different polling stations in the area, presumably ones at different ends of the borough, travelling between them and spent up to 45 minutes in each.

Bloody long day for them! Wonder if they took time out for lunch and dinner.

They say there was evidence in 12% of the stations they visited , but 12% of 22 is 2.46. So that is not accurate.

Sounds more ominous than ‘2 or 3’ though 

Green Party victory.

Lots of tactical voting to stop Reform.

Edited February 27Feb 27 by freds dad

They’re coming down the road or something.

Reform voters now needing help from their Carling drenched mates to put a cross in a box.

Madness.