What is that "mate" of mine Sadiq Khan trying to achieve ?

 

You lost you demented little cretin, get over it and concentrate on your job you terrorist sympathiser.

1 hour ago, green genie said:

Anyone have an idea on the number of seats a “Islamist backed” party would take at a General Election? 

0

8 hours ago, London Wanderer said:

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There'd be one or 2 I reckon especially if the number of 'independent' MPs joined forces.

There are certainly constituencies in Birmingham that are capable

20 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

There are certainly constituencies in Birmingham that are capable

Birmingham does seem to hold the monopoly on some of the most extremist Muslims.

But I can't see them gaining a seat at Parliament at the moment. 

It depends. Issuing a statement on something like the Palestine conflict? Probably a handful. Enacting sharia law? 0.

On 27/02/2026 at 18:49, Sweep said:

That's where I sit, those days are gone for a little while, they'll soon come back when the likes of Reform and The Greens royally fuck everything up, which they will

Politically, we are at a fairly low ebb in the UK at the minute. As things stand though, I'm more confident than ever that Reform won't win a clear majority next time around, that's not to say they won't be in power. I'm sure they'd be more than happy to try and run with a minority Government, so that they can say, when they're voted down, that it's the establishment stopping them.

Coming down the road, equal and opposite reaction, get what you deserve, blah, blah.

You missed 'or something like that'. Poor form.

On 27/02/2026 at 21:00, Sweep said:

@bolty58 would have you believe this as well.....

No he wouldn't.

On 28/02/2026 at 01:45, Whitesince63 said:

You actually believe that bollocks, ha ha ha. Well they do say there’s one born every minute.

They've been trumpeting China's lowering of its emissions. A 'remarkable feat', a 'template for the world' etc.

0.3%. 0.3 fucking percent. That might have saved a dandelion on Moss Bank Park.

They will get there though I am sure of it - just like the rest of us. Not by 2030 though. Utter stupidity to turn our back on our own fossil fuels and buy them elsewhere. Lunacy.

Just now, bolty58 said:

They've been trumpeting China's lowering of its emissions. A 'remarkable feat', a 'template for the world' etc.

0.3%. 0.3 fucking percent. That might have saved a dandelion on Moss Bank Park.

They will get there though I am sure of it - just like the rest of us. Not by 2030 though. Utter stupidity to turn our back on our own fossil fuels and buy them elsewhere. Lunacy.

“Spider’s right but I can’t bring myself to say it”

You’ll get there one day. I understand you can’t operate as quickly as you once did.

What's the odds on any Labour MPs defecting to the Greens as Conservatives such a Jenrick did with Reform?

38 minutes ago, Dimron said:

What's the odds on any Labour MPs defecting to the Greens as Conservatives such a Jenrick did with Reform?

Self preservation is a great incentive, so it'd not be a huge surprise

There's also a "big" Labour name about to defect to Reform, apparently, according to Farage, now that I find an odd switch

25 minutes ago, Sweep said:

Self preservation is a great incentive, so it'd not be a huge surprise

There's also a "big" Labour name about to defect to Reform, apparently, according to Farage, now that I find an odd switch

I've now read fully Hannah Spencer's acceptance speech from Thursday... it's the most refreshing jargon free text I've seen from a politician for a long time... far from being radical or extremist, it's more traditional labour than Labour.

Not bad for  Deane lass... does give hope

3 hours ago, Sweep said:

Self preservation is a great incentive, so it'd not be a huge surprise

There's also a "big" Labour name about to defect to Reform, apparently, according to Farage, now that I find an odd switch

Is it really so odd?

Look at the by-election result.

Conservatives never do anything there, yet suddenly Reform gain a large number of votes.

Where did they come from- not conservatives.

They came largely from Labour voters.

So many make it about left and right, when it is far more nuanced.

Large numbers of traditional red wall people turning their backs on Labour, are doing so for a reason.

That reason is largely immigration, and despite what many wish to portray, it isn't racist, nor far right to have such concerns.

Had Labour understood, accepted and acted upon that, they would still have the red wall.

They chose to pander to others, rather than their core vote, and have suffered accordingly. 

8 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Is it really so odd?

Look at the by-election result.

Conservatives never do anything there, yet suddenly Reform gain a large number of votes.

Where did they come from- not conservatives.

They came largely from Labour voters.

So many make it about left and right, when it is far more nuanced.

Large numbers of traditional red wall people turning their backs on Labour, are doing so for a reason.

That reason is largely immigration, and despite what many wish to portray, it isn't racist, nor far right to have such concerns.

Had Labour understood, accepted and acted upon that, they would still have the red wall.

They chose to pander to others, rather than their core vote, and have suffered accordingly. 

From the point of view of lefty voters they've pandered to the likes of Reform and Tories which has cost them their seat to a proper lefty party in The Greens.

I think a lot of those who voted Reform in Gorton and Denton previously wouldn't have voted for any party, or at least won't have voted for any party for at least a few elections

18 minutes ago, frank_spencer said:

From the point of view of lefty voters they've pandered to the likes of Reform and Tories which has cost them their seat to a proper lefty party in The Greens.

Yup that "Island of strangers" dog muck he was peddling last year didn't  help.

1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Is it really so odd?

Look at the by-election result.

Conservatives never do anything there, yet suddenly Reform gain a large number of votes.

Where did they come from- not conservatives.

They came largely from Labour voters.

So many make it about left and right, when it is far more nuanced.

Large numbers of traditional red wall people turning their backs on Labour, are doing so for a reason.

That reason is largely immigration, and despite what many wish to portray, it isn't racist, nor far right to have such concerns.

Had Labour understood, accepted and acted upon that, they would still have the red wall.

They chose to pander to others, rather than their core vote, and have suffered accordingly. 

 The "odd" comment isn't about voters changing their mind, they're a fickle  bunch, it's about a political figure (a major one allegedly) deciding to move across from Labour to Reform, as their idealogies are very different. So either they're "self preserving" or, they've had a dramatic change in what they believe (of course, it could be both) - although this major Labour figure hasn't joined Reform yet, and I guess may not even exist..... 

12 minutes ago, Sweep said:

 The "odd" comment isn't about voters changing their mind, they're a fickle  bunch, it's about a political figure (a major one allegedly) deciding to move across from Labour to Reform, as their idealogies are very different. So either they're "self preserving" or, they've had a dramatic change in what they believe (of course, it could be both) - although this major Labour figure hasn't joined Reform yet, and I guess may not even exist..... 

It was Mandelson

22 minutes ago, Sweep said:

 The "odd" comment isn't about voters changing their mind, they're a fickle  bunch, it's about a political figure (a major one allegedly) deciding to move across from Labour to Reform, as their idealogies are very different. So either they're "self preserving" or, they've had a dramatic change in what they believe (of course, it could be both) - although this major Labour figure hasn't joined Reform yet, and I guess may not even exist..... 

Farage and co have been talking about this "major Labour figure" defecting to them for a couple of months now. It was probably going to be Kate Hoey (who left Labour in 2019), but she's obviously got cold feet.

I think Kate Hoey's been enjoying being independent 

She's never been one for party discipline and there's no real incentive for her to join any political party now she's a life peer

Graham Stringer might be a better shout

1 minute ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

I think Kate Hoey's been enjoying being independent 

She's never been one for party discipline and there's no real incentive for her to join any political party now she's a life peer

Graham Stringer might be a better shout

He certainly looks the part.

44 minutes ago, Cheese said:

He certainly looks the part.

yep, nice and Gammony

 

 

 

We cannot let these get in power.

I get why they exist. I get people wanting change and thay have had enough of certain issues.

I get they are product of the main parties misgivings and all round fuck ups and leading the nation in to the darkness over the past couple of decades.

But christ these can't be the alternative.

Labour need to sort their shit out pretty sharpish and so do the Tories.

Get these fuckin boats sorted.

Stop that, you stop reform and you stop incompetent bozos like this mon being anywhere near the running of councils and the country.

4 minutes ago, gonzo said:

 

 

We cannot let these get in power.

I get why they exist. I get people wanting change and thay have had enough of certain issues.

I get they are product of the main parties misgivings and all round fuck ups and leading the nation in to the darkness over the past couple of decades.

But christ these can't be the alternative.

Labour need to sort their shit out pretty sharpish and so do the Tories.

Get these fuckin boats sorted.

Stop that, you stop reform and you stop incompetent bozos like this mon being anywhere near the running of councils and the country.

Post of the decade

6 minutes ago, gonzo said:

 

 

We cannot let these get in power.

I get why they exist. I get people wanting change and thay have had enough of certain issues.

I get they are product of the main parties misgivings and all round fuck ups and leading the nation in to the darkness over the past couple of decades.

But christ these can't be the alternative.

Labour need to sort their shit out pretty sharpish and so do the Tories.

Get these fuckin boats sorted.

Stop that, you stop reform and you stop incompetent bozos like this mon being anywhere near the running of councils and the country.

Too late mate. Reform are a shoe-in for 2029. It will all go to absolute shit, and their supporters will suffer the most. Much like what's happening in America under Trump.