green genie Posted February 28 Posted February 28 Anyone have an idea on the number of seats a “Islamist backed” party would take at a General Election? Quote
London Wanderer Posted February 28 Posted February 28 1 hour ago, green genie said: Anyone have an idea on the number of seats a “Islamist backed” party would take at a General Election? 0 Quote
frank_spencer Posted February 28 Posted February 28 8 hours ago, London Wanderer said: 0 There'd be one or 2 I reckon especially if the number of 'independent' MPs joined forces. Quote
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted February 28 Posted February 28 There are certainly constituencies in Birmingham that are capable Quote
London Wanderer Posted February 28 Posted February 28 20 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: There are certainly constituencies in Birmingham that are capable Birmingham does seem to hold the monopoly on some of the most extremist Muslims. But I can't see them gaining a seat at Parliament at the moment. Quote
jmjhb Posted February 28 Posted February 28 It depends. Issuing a statement on something like the Palestine conflict? Probably a handful. Enacting sharia law? 0. Quote
bolty58 Posted February 28 Posted February 28 On 27/02/2026 at 18:49, Sweep said: That's where I sit, those days are gone for a little while, they'll soon come back when the likes of Reform and The Greens royally fuck everything up, which they will Politically, we are at a fairly low ebb in the UK at the minute. As things stand though, I'm more confident than ever that Reform won't win a clear majority next time around, that's not to say they won't be in power. I'm sure they'd be more than happy to try and run with a minority Government, so that they can say, when they're voted down, that it's the establishment stopping them. Coming down the road, equal and opposite reaction, get what you deserve, blah, blah. You missed 'or something like that'. Poor form. Quote
bolty58 Posted February 28 Posted February 28 On 27/02/2026 at 21:00, Sweep said: @bolty58 would have you believe this as well..... No he wouldn't. Quote
bolty58 Posted February 28 Posted February 28 On 28/02/2026 at 01:45, Whitesince63 said: You actually believe that bollocks, ha ha ha. Well they do say there’s one born every minute. They've been trumpeting China's lowering of its emissions. A 'remarkable feat', a 'template for the world' etc. 0.3%. 0.3 fucking percent. That might have saved a dandelion on Moss Bank Park. They will get there though I am sure of it - just like the rest of us. Not by 2030 though. Utter stupidity to turn our back on our own fossil fuels and buy them elsewhere. Lunacy. Quote
Spider Posted February 28 Posted February 28 Just now, bolty58 said: They've been trumpeting China's lowering of its emissions. A 'remarkable feat', a 'template for the world' etc. 0.3%. 0.3 fucking percent. That might have saved a dandelion on Moss Bank Park. They will get there though I am sure of it - just like the rest of us. Not by 2030 though. Utter stupidity to turn our back on our own fossil fuels and buy them elsewhere. Lunacy. “Spider’s right but I can’t bring myself to say it” You’ll get there one day. I understand you can’t operate as quickly as you once did. Quote
Dimron Posted March 1 Posted March 1 What's the odds on any Labour MPs defecting to the Greens as Conservatives such a Jenrick did with Reform? Quote
Sweep Posted March 1 Posted March 1 38 minutes ago, Dimron said: What's the odds on any Labour MPs defecting to the Greens as Conservatives such a Jenrick did with Reform? Self preservation is a great incentive, so it'd not be a huge surprise There's also a "big" Labour name about to defect to Reform, apparently, according to Farage, now that I find an odd switch Quote
Dimron Posted March 1 Posted March 1 25 minutes ago, Sweep said: Self preservation is a great incentive, so it'd not be a huge surprise There's also a "big" Labour name about to defect to Reform, apparently, according to Farage, now that I find an odd switch I've now read fully Hannah Spencer's acceptance speech from Thursday... it's the most refreshing jargon free text I've seen from a politician for a long time... far from being radical or extremist, it's more traditional labour than Labour. Not bad for Deane lass... does give hope Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted March 1 Posted March 1 3 hours ago, Sweep said: Self preservation is a great incentive, so it'd not be a huge surprise There's also a "big" Labour name about to defect to Reform, apparently, according to Farage, now that I find an odd switch Is it really so odd? Look at the by-election result. Conservatives never do anything there, yet suddenly Reform gain a large number of votes. Where did they come from- not conservatives. They came largely from Labour voters. So many make it about left and right, when it is far more nuanced. Large numbers of traditional red wall people turning their backs on Labour, are doing so for a reason. That reason is largely immigration, and despite what many wish to portray, it isn't racist, nor far right to have such concerns. Had Labour understood, accepted and acted upon that, they would still have the red wall. They chose to pander to others, rather than their core vote, and have suffered accordingly. Quote
frank_spencer Posted March 1 Posted March 1 8 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Is it really so odd? Look at the by-election result. Conservatives never do anything there, yet suddenly Reform gain a large number of votes. Where did they come from- not conservatives. They came largely from Labour voters. So many make it about left and right, when it is far more nuanced. Large numbers of traditional red wall people turning their backs on Labour, are doing so for a reason. That reason is largely immigration, and despite what many wish to portray, it isn't racist, nor far right to have such concerns. Had Labour understood, accepted and acted upon that, they would still have the red wall. They chose to pander to others, rather than their core vote, and have suffered accordingly. From the point of view of lefty voters they've pandered to the likes of Reform and Tories which has cost them their seat to a proper lefty party in The Greens. Quote
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted March 1 Posted March 1 I think a lot of those who voted Reform in Gorton and Denton previously wouldn't have voted for any party, or at least won't have voted for any party for at least a few elections Quote
deeane Koontz Posted March 1 Posted March 1 18 minutes ago, frank_spencer said: From the point of view of lefty voters they've pandered to the likes of Reform and Tories which has cost them their seat to a proper lefty party in The Greens. Yup that "Island of strangers" dog muck he was peddling last year didn't help. Quote
Sweep Posted March 1 Posted March 1 1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Is it really so odd? Look at the by-election result. Conservatives never do anything there, yet suddenly Reform gain a large number of votes. Where did they come from- not conservatives. They came largely from Labour voters. So many make it about left and right, when it is far more nuanced. Large numbers of traditional red wall people turning their backs on Labour, are doing so for a reason. That reason is largely immigration, and despite what many wish to portray, it isn't racist, nor far right to have such concerns. Had Labour understood, accepted and acted upon that, they would still have the red wall. They chose to pander to others, rather than their core vote, and have suffered accordingly. The "odd" comment isn't about voters changing their mind, they're a fickle bunch, it's about a political figure (a major one allegedly) deciding to move across from Labour to Reform, as their idealogies are very different. So either they're "self preserving" or, they've had a dramatic change in what they believe (of course, it could be both) - although this major Labour figure hasn't joined Reform yet, and I guess may not even exist..... Quote
frank_spencer Posted March 1 Posted March 1 12 minutes ago, Sweep said: The "odd" comment isn't about voters changing their mind, they're a fickle bunch, it's about a political figure (a major one allegedly) deciding to move across from Labour to Reform, as their idealogies are very different. So either they're "self preserving" or, they've had a dramatic change in what they believe (of course, it could be both) - although this major Labour figure hasn't joined Reform yet, and I guess may not even exist..... It was Mandelson Quote
Cheese Posted March 1 Posted March 1 22 minutes ago, Sweep said: The "odd" comment isn't about voters changing their mind, they're a fickle bunch, it's about a political figure (a major one allegedly) deciding to move across from Labour to Reform, as their idealogies are very different. So either they're "self preserving" or, they've had a dramatic change in what they believe (of course, it could be both) - although this major Labour figure hasn't joined Reform yet, and I guess may not even exist..... Farage and co have been talking about this "major Labour figure" defecting to them for a couple of months now. It was probably going to be Kate Hoey (who left Labour in 2019), but she's obviously got cold feet. Quote
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted March 1 Posted March 1 I think Kate Hoey's been enjoying being independent She's never been one for party discipline and there's no real incentive for her to join any political party now she's a life peer Graham Stringer might be a better shout Quote
Cheese Posted March 1 Posted March 1 1 minute ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: I think Kate Hoey's been enjoying being independent She's never been one for party discipline and there's no real incentive for her to join any political party now she's a life peer Graham Stringer might be a better shout He certainly looks the part. Quote
Sweep Posted March 1 Posted March 1 44 minutes ago, Cheese said: He certainly looks the part. yep, nice and Gammony Quote
Popular Post gonzo Posted March 2 Popular Post Posted March 2 We cannot let these get in power. I get why they exist. I get people wanting change and thay have had enough of certain issues. I get they are product of the main parties misgivings and all round fuck ups and leading the nation in to the darkness over the past couple of decades. But christ these can't be the alternative. Labour need to sort their shit out pretty sharpish and so do the Tories. Get these fuckin boats sorted. Stop that, you stop reform and you stop incompetent bozos like this mon being anywhere near the running of councils and the country. Quote
Spider Posted March 2 Posted March 2 4 minutes ago, gonzo said: We cannot let these get in power. I get why they exist. I get people wanting change and thay have had enough of certain issues. I get they are product of the main parties misgivings and all round fuck ups and leading the nation in to the darkness over the past couple of decades. But christ these can't be the alternative. Labour need to sort their shit out pretty sharpish and so do the Tories. Get these fuckin boats sorted. Stop that, you stop reform and you stop incompetent bozos like this mon being anywhere near the running of councils and the country. Post of the decade Quote
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