What is that "mate" of mine Sadiq Khan trying to achieve ?

 

You lost you demented little cretin, get over it and concentrate on your job you terrorist sympathiser.

The OECD was one of the most strident arms of Project Fear.

Not only were things go to be worse after deciding to leave, they would be much worse immediately.

Wrong then, and wrong now.

 

I have a couple of former running colleagues who have each had 2-year secondments to the OECD (one from a university post and the other from a civil service post in the Cabinet Office).

 

 

 

 

She has to decide what her premiership is about, just being in power for the sake of it or actually try and tackle those in her party she knows are failing to make any real progress and give us the British public a clear idea on this.

 

 Who was the last PM not just about being in power for the sake of it?

 

Definitely not Cameron, Brown, Blair.

Just possibly Major.

Definitely not Thatcher, Callaghan, Wilson, Heath.

Quite possibly Douglas-Home.

Definitely not MacMillan, Eden, Churchill.

Just possibly Attlee.

Boo, lies

 

It's just a foreign branch of "Project Fear"

The moment anyone uses this catchphrase, I dismiss them as a crank and stop reading.

 

Anyway, no one wants a Vauxhall anyway, we are all buying the Audis as they will ultimately be ensuring the whole thing gets resolved.

Brexit to hit the poorest hardest and in those areas that the Leave vote was highest. 

 

So, some turkeys do vote for Christmas.

inflation at 3

 

 That's according to the media, but the ONS lead figure is 2.8%.

It will be interesting to see whether the Chancellor uses CPI or CPIH next month in determining pension increases, etc.

The OECD was one of the most strident arms of Project Fear.

Not only were things go to be worse after deciding to leave, they would be much worse immediately.

Wrong then, and wrong now.

 

I have a couple of former running colleagues who have each had 2-year secondments to the OECD (one from a university post and the other from a civil service post in the Cabinet Office).

 

 

 Who was the last PM not just about being in power for the sake of it?

 

Definitely not Cameron, Brown, Blair.

Just possibly Major.

Definitely not Thatcher, Callaghan, Wilson, Heath.

Quite possibly Douglas-Home.

Definitely not MacMillan, Eden, Churchill.

Just possibly Attlee.

Well done, Malc - the WW equivalent of throwing a dead cat on the table, as in it's distracting, but of absolutely no relevance whatsoever. This is a time of real crisis, and May is not leading her own party, never mind the country. It is time to show she can provide (for want of a better phrase) strong and stable leadership - and government. Last week party members wanted to call a leadership election. If she showed some mettle and tried to manage her party before thrying to manage the country through these negotiations, the better we'd be for it.

 

Whatever your thoughts on Attlee.

 

The first OCED is part of the global conspiracy to keep Britain in the EU has been posted and I claim my five pounds.

The main issue is that the Conservatives are quite clearly a divided party with a Cabinet that May cannot control. She herself is a moderate remainer politically, and yet her current stance is to throw red meat to the eurosceptics in her party to shore up her position, which leaves her undermined within her senior colleagues, not one of who has yet spelt out a coherent strategy for leaving the european union, regardless of the position of the EU who currently are waiting.

 

The Labour Party was divided until Corbyn sacked most of his shadow cabinet and replaced them with his supporters. The Parliamentary Labour Party has lost talent like Andy Burnham on the back of this.

 

Regarding having a confused stance on Brexit at least you have honesty from the Tories, Corbyn wants us out of the Single Market but cannot say so.

 That's according to the media, but the ONS lead figure is 2.8%.

It will be interesting to see whether the Chancellor uses CPI or CPIH next month in determining pension increases, etc.

It will indeed, but again, its supposition, and a bit of 0.2% pedentary to play to the crowd.

 

I'll give you this, the arguments against don't disappoint, but they're so old they've got whiskers on them.

Well done, Malc - the WW equivalent of throwing a dead cat on the table, as in it's distracting, but of absolutely no relevance whatsoever. This is a time of real crisis, and May is not leading her own party, never mind the country. It is time to show she can provide (for want of a better phrase) strong and stable leadership - and government. Last week party members wanted to call a leadership election. If she showed some mettle and tried to manage her party before thrying to manage the country through these negotiations, the better we'd be for it.

 

Whatever your thoughts on Attlee.

 

The first OCED is part of the global conspiracy to keep Britain in the EU has been posted and I claim my five pounds.

Of course the 3% increase is cost of living is true but it should be a one off event because of currency fluctuations. No one should be fooled that the OECD comments from the Paris think tank on Brexit are anything other than attempt to heap pressure on U.K. Government and support the EU in achieving their ultimate goal of reversing Brexit.

Edited October 17, 20178 yr by Mounts Kipper

The Labour Party was divided until Corbyn sacked most of his shadow cabinet and replaced them with his supporters. The Parliamentary Labour Party has lost talent like Andy Burnham on the back of this.

 

Regarding having a confused stance on Brexit at least you have honesty from the Tories, Corbyn wants us out of the Single Market but cannot say so.

I'm not really concerned about having a parliamentary party debate about which party would be better to get us through this. I'm saying that our current government have not, are not and show no signs of managing themselves or this negotiations.

 

I'm sure Labour couldn't at this point in time. Nor the Lib Dems. This is an issue in which needs to go beyond party politics. 

The Labour Party was divided until Corbyn sacked most of his shadow cabinet and replaced them with his supporters. The Parliamentary Labour Party has lost talent like Andy Burnham on the back of this.

 

Regarding having a confused stance on Brexit at least you have honesty from the Tories, Corbyn wants us out of the Single Market but cannot say so.

 

I'm not seeing this honesty from the Tories. They are all backstabbing each other behind closed doors and trying to orchestrate individual positions for a shot at leading the party. There is a lot of false statements to try and show unity. May wants us to remain but is pretending she's been a hard brexiteer all along. Boris changes his stance by the hour....

Of course the 3% increase is cost of living is true but it should be a one off event because of currency fluctuations. No one should be fooled that the OECD comments from the Paris think tank on Brexit are anything other than attempt to heap pressure on U.K. Government and support the EU in achieving their ultimate goal of reversing Brexit.

 

Number two....

Of course the 3% increase is cost of living is true but it should be a one off event because of currency fluctuations. No one should be fooled that the OECD comments from the Paris think tank on Brexit are anything other than attempt to heap pressure on U.K. Government and support the EU in achieving their ultimate goal of reversing Brexit.

 

Comments like this only show a gross misunderstanding of what the OECD are. If we don't like it we can withdraw our membership. We won't though, and for very good reason. 

It is honestly a bit daft this discussion, facts presented - dismissed as heresy against the one true cause of Brexit.

 

It's what I was saying earlier, data, facts etc are all a total irrelevance and actually fuel the fire of those who despite all the evidence to the contrary still believe (and that's the key word here) that it will all be fine and there are those in power who wish to suppress us - the imagined 'other' be that liberal metroculturals, muslims, economic migrants mixing with a globalisation that has left many behind. It doesn't mean you have to listen to these dog whistle, lowest common denominator proclamations from self-serving MP like Johnson, Farage and Davis.

 

This realy isn't about leaving the EU, it's about something much darker creeping into society. When those who are trusted to lead society through knowledge, information, analysis and rigour are dismissed as heretics with an imagined agenda, then there is something deeply wrong.

It will indeed, but again, its supposition, and a bit of 0.2% pedentary to play to the crowd.

 

I'll give you this, the arguments against don't disappoint, but they're so old they've got whiskers on them.

 

The September CPI rates of increase from 2013 have been 2.7%, 1.2%, -0.1%, 1.0% and 3.0%.

 

So last year basic state pensions were increased by 2.5% under the triple lock, while the ancillary amounts were increased by 1.0%, having  been frozen the previous year. It would have been proper to increase by less than 1% to take account on that occasion of the departure from CPI rates of change the previous year.

I'm not seeing this honesty from the Tories. They are all backstabbing each other behind closed doors and trying to orchestrate individual positions for a shot at leading the party. There is a lot of false statements to try and show unity. May wants us to remain but is pretending she's been a hard brexiteer all along. Boris changes his stance by the hour....

 

Of course your view of goings-on in the Conservative Party is not in any way influenced by Murdoch's spin?

Good, good Malc.

 

Now, whist pensioners reap the benefits (something Hammond needs to do)

 

It is still a truth that the lowest earners in our society will be hit badly. 

 

You keep using misdirection if you must, that is the bald truth.

Of course your view of goings-on in the Conservative Party is not in any way influenced by Murdoch's spin?

And you are permanent secretary to the cabinet?

 

Or I take it you have as much of an idea as we all done about the inner workings of the cabinet office?

Of course your view of goings-on in the Conservative Party is not in any way influenced by Murdoch's spin?

Not read anything murdoch has produced outside of the footy pages in Maccies copy of the sun whilst having my breakfast.

 

I have no doubt that the tories are in more disarray than labour, who's own battle between the socialist arm lead by corbyn and the new labour centrist PLP is proving a pain for them

So, definite Armageddon

 

What are we all doing to protect our future and our family?

Comments like this only show a gross misunderstanding of what the OECD are. If we don't like it we can withdraw our membership. We won't though, and for very good reason.

Their website says the oecd promote Policies that will improve economic and social well being of people. So instead of commenting on the UK reversing a democratic vote shouldn't they be actively working to get the EU and UK to get a deal agreed? That they are not doing that and that they were anti Brexit in the run upto the vote and made unsubstantiated claims about Brexit which were clearly wide of the mark, makes me think the OECD are siding clearly with the EU.

Edited October 17, 20178 yr by Mounts Kipper

Their website says the oecd promote Policies that will improve economic and social well being of people. So instead of commenting on the UK reversing a democratic vote shouldn't they be actively working to get the EU and UK to get a deal agreed? That they are not doing that and that they were anti Brexit in the run upto the vote and made unsubstantiated claims about Brexit which were clearly wide of the mark, makes me think the OECD are siding clearly with the EU.

 

I'm not sure where to start with that one!

of course they are , because they are tell you something you don't want to hear

So, definite Armageddon

 

What are we all doing to protect our future and our family?

Kent and I are going to start up our band again and achieve world fame. At this point I'll have a Bono-esque belief I can change the world through mid-tempo ballads and personally hold the Brexit talks at my house.

 

I will then hold all the cards, and there will no jockeying for position as everyone will have set placenames.

Nobody pro brexit can say that this isn't a worry.

 

Only a matter of time before the big guns shit their pants. They owe us fook all.

 

Recession by spring. MMW.

Dreadful news

And you are permanent secretary to the cabinet?

 

Or I take it you have as much of an idea as we all done about the inner workings of the cabinet office?

 

No, silly, I am retired, and I never did work in the Civil Service.

 

And my friend was a statistician, not Permanent Secretary.

 

The other was head of a university economics department before over a decade as vice-chancellor.