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[Salford Trotter]

40 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

another one the Salford Trotter got wrong. 😂

have the EU backed down now? I must have been watching the wrong press conference 🤣

https://twitter.com/BBCNews/status/1164291225807216640?s=20

Just a bit different to getting a deal but we live in hope..... tick tock

Edited August 21, 2019 by Salford Trotter

[Cheese]

Boris: There are many solutions to the Ireland backstop... 

Merkel: Name one. 

Boris: ....... No. 

[bolty58]

5 hours ago, kent_white said:

Sounded conciliatory to me. BJ came across very confident in the press conference which is reassuring. 30 blistering days to sort out the problem. Hope he can do it!

Not sure that's what she said. More along the lines of "It may take two years, maybe 30 days".

Either way, conciliatory movement from a very key player. Bet Macron had to go and change his tampon after hearing this. Typical Gallic tantrum to come no doubt.

If Johnson and his team had been in charge from the day after the referendum result, we'd be two years down the path of a much brighter future by now and lowlifes like Gina Miller would never have been heard of.

[Sweep]

7 hours ago, bolty58 said:

 

If Johnson and his team had been in charge from the day after the referendum result, we'd be two years down the path of a much brighter future by now and lowlifes like Gina Miller would never have been heard of.

I agree.......but with May in charge, as she was, then without the intervention of Miller, that awful deal May proposed would have just flushed straight through, so we've got to thank her for stopping that happening

[bolty58]

16 hours ago, Sweep said:

I agree.......but with May in charge, as she was, then without the intervention of Miller, that awful deal May proposed would have just flushed straight through, so we've got to thank her for stopping that happening

They only thing I could ever thank her for would be fading back into relative obscurity and never hearing from the self aggrandising bitch ever again. The very definition of pure arrogance.

[jules_darby]

https://www.thedailymash.co.uk/politics/the-wetherspoons-customers-guide-to-a-no-deal-brexit-20190124181714

[Nowack]

I think a moratorium on this thread today would be useful. 

All whites together. 

[bolty58]

Aye, who gives a fuck about Brexit or any fucking thing other than our beloved clubs survival.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

It's all kicked off big style.

Govt to hold queen's speech in October, meaning parliament will be suspended.

[Traf]

12 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

It's all kicked off big style.

Govt to hold queen's speech in October, meaning parliament will be suspended.

To cut down the chance for MPs to oppose a no deal exit.

[Guest]

18 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

It's all kicked off big style.

Govt to hold queen's speech in October, meaning parliament will be suspended.

Nice one, Boris!

or whoever 

[Sweep]

Let's see if this "vote of no confidence" happens, I see that Grieve already seems to be up for it

[Cheese]

2 hours ago, boltondiver said:

Nice one, Boris!

or whoever 

Yeah, nice one. Wonder if you'd be so elated if the shoe was on the other foot? Imagine if Corbyn got into No 10, and shut down parliament in order to force through one of his extreme policies. 

This must be that "Parliamentary Sovereignty" you lot kept banging on about eh. 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

It's the same parliamentary sovereignty that ignores the will of voters.

If you play with fire, expect to get burned.

Not the ideal way of going about things, but the situation resembles that at the club.

Something has to give and start to move forward.

Seeing Soubry earlier screeching vociferously was wonderful. The witch.

[Cheese]

4 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

It's the same parliamentary sovereignty that ignores the will of voters.

If you play with fire, expect to get burned.

Not the ideal way of going about things, but the situation resembles that at the club.

Something has to give and start to move forward.

Seeing Soubry earlier screeching vociferously was wonderful. The witch.

So if this is allowed to happen, you'll presumably applaud future shutdowns of Parliament to force through extreme policies you disagree with? 

[Moon boy]

Just now, Cheese said:

So if this is allowed to happen, you'll presumably applaud future shutdowns of Parliament to force through extreme policies you disagree with? 

Only if the Democratic will of the people is thwarted by MP’s

[Cheese]

6 minutes ago, Moon boy said:

Only if the Democratic will of the people is thwarted by MP’s

Crashing out with No Deal is not the Democratic will of the people. The people were told we would have a fantastic deal, and there would be no negative consequences of Leaving the EU. 

Also - you're lying. If by some miracle Corbyn got into No 10, and decided to shut Parliament so it couldn't stop one of his extreme policies being implemented you'd be apoplectic with rage, and rightly so. 

[Moon boy]

8 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Crashing out with No Deal is not the Democratic will of the people. The people were told we would have a fantastic deal, and there would be no negative consequences of Leaving the EU. 

Also - you're lying. If by some miracle Corbyn got into No 10, and decided to shut Parliament so it couldn't stop one of his extreme policies being implemented you'd be apoplectic with rage, and rightly so. 

Read my reply

I said ‘the Democratic will of the people’ , so NOT lying

We know who occupies the Moral high ground and it’s not Remainers

[Cheese]

13 minutes ago, Moon boy said:

Read my reply

I said ‘the Democratic will of the people’ , so NOT lying

We know who occupies the Moral high ground and it’s not Remainers

No Deal is not the 'democratic will of the people'. The moral high ground is held by those who tell the truth, not those who lie to get what they want.

[Mounts Kipper]

10 minutes ago, Cheese said:

No Deal is not the 'democratic will of the people'. The moral high ground is held by those who tell the truth, not those who lie to get what they want.

And the remainers didn't tell any lies did they.   

[Guest]

38 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Crashing out with No Deal is not the Democratic will of the people. The people were told we would have a fantastic deal, and there would be no negative consequences of Leaving the EU. 

Also - you're lying. If by some miracle Corbyn got into No 10, and decided to shut Parliament so it couldn't stop one of his extreme policies being implemented you'd be apoplectic with rage, and rightly so. 

If MPs didn’t like no deal, then they shouldn’t have included it in A50.

many allowed it in, inc Grieve

dug their own grave

[Mounts Kipper]

1 minute ago, boltondiver said:

If MPs didn’t like no deal, then they shouldn’t have included it in A50.

many allowed it in, inc Grieve

dug their own grave

Grave is where Grieve belongs the ghoulish bastard.  

[Cheese]

2 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

And the remainers didn't tell any lies did they.   

Economic Forecasts are not lies, no. And if that's your only argument in favour of No Deal, you might as well admit you voted to make us worse off because you don't like foreigners. 

[Cheese]

2 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

If MPs didn’t like no deal, then they shouldn’t have included it in A50.

many allowed it in, inc Grieve

dug their own grave

Eh? You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. Please explain what was "included in A50".

[Mounts Kipper]

6 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Economic Forecasts are not lies, no. And if that's your only argument in favour of No Deal, you might as well admit you voted to make us worse off because you don't like foreigners. 

They were lies perpetrated by the civil service and the Cameron/Osborne government, they were the biggest lies of all and 9 million was spent delivering those lies to every UK household, thankfully folk saw right through them.