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you can tell when people are getting old  :)

 

 

They move to Walshaw?

I think one of the massive issues is the cultural difference of adulthood.

 

I've had a customer who was fasting this week and he was explaining all about Ramadan, it was interesting to be fair.  Then I asked how old do the kids have to be before they join in with the fasting and he explained that they dont partake until they are adults.

 

I thought this was fair enough but our idea of adults were poles apart, I was thinking 16/18 but no, he explained that they became adults at puberty.

 

We couldnt agree on that.  I asked if his daughter started puberty at 10 if she would then become an adult as to me she is still a child, by some way infact but no.  He confirmed that she would be an adult at 10 if she hit puberty.

I think one of the massive issues is the cultural difference of adulthood.

 

I've had a customer who was fasting this week and he was explaining all about Ramadan, it was interesting to be fair.  Then I asked how old do the kids have to be before they join in with the fasting and he explained that they dont partake until they are adults.

 

I thought this was fair enough but our idea of adults were poles apart, I was thinking 16/18 but no, he explained that they became adults at puberty.

 

We couldnt agree on that.  I asked if his daughter started puberty at 10 if she would then become an adult as to me she is still a child, by some way infact but no.  He confirmed that she would be an adult at 10 if she hit puberty.

 

And that sadly makes some of them it's acceptable to shag 14 yr olds.

Adult or not it's against the law and sick.

 

Has TR ruined the case? Is it still on going?

I think one of the massive issues is the cultural difference of adulthood.

 

I've had a customer who was fasting this week and he was explaining all about Ramadan, it was interesting to be fair.  Then I asked how old do the kids have to be before they join in with the fasting and he explained that they dont partake until they are adults.

 

I thought this was fair enough but our idea of adults were poles apart, I was thinking 16/18 but no, he explained that they became adults at puberty.

 

We couldnt agree on that.  I asked if his daughter started puberty at 10 if she would then become an adult as to me she is still a child, by some way infact but no.  He confirmed that she would be an adult at 10 if she hit puberty.

All true but as Swanny says, that's not the law or custom here and they know it. Funny how folk on the lash in say Thailand don't go causing criminal damage or cause social disturbance, as may be 'custom' here, after a session, as the lash is what they'd be getting.

 

What's also not culturally acceptable, even in Pakistan, is drugging girls or getting them pissed - Muslims ain't that keen on alcohol far as I'm aware - and then raping them against their will, branding them and then passing them round your mates. I suspect cash may also trade hands somewhere along the line. Mohammed would be so proud . . . Well . . . Winkey face . . . I think?

 

I'd be genuinely interested to know if the feelings differ for whites and non Muslims vs Muslims though. Seriously. Although, again, experience makes me think I may know the answer to that one.

 

Should have asked him if he'd have been OK with a non Muslim, or a Muslim as it goes, poking happily away at his ten year old bleeding daughter. I suspect not but who knows until you ask?

 

Not saying your lying btw but I was at a school recently and lots of the kids, around 9, were fasting and being massive pains in the arse about it. Not right or healthy imo but there you go.

 

Should have asked him if he'd have been OK with a non Muslim, or a Muslim as it goes, poking happily away at his ten year old bleeding daughter. I suspect not but who knows until you ask?

 

 

Walk around some of the known Muslim areas of Bolton and ask them then.

Should have asked him if he'd have been OK with a non Muslim, or a Muslim as it goes, poking happily away at his ten year old bleeding daughter. I suspect not but who knows until you ask?

 

 

I'm not talking to a customer about anyone having sex with his prepubescent daughter.

 

I just thought it odd about how different cultures define adulthood

Adult or not it's against the law and sick.

 

Has TR ruined the case? Is it still on going?

 

The 10 men in case 2 (the one he was live streaming when he got arrested) were convicted, sentencing will take place next week. There are still another 9 men who's trial is in September so no harm done by TR but it could have been as the jurors where still deliberating when he was live streaming

 

As an aside, His book Enemy of the State has shot to number 1 in the Amazon best sellers chart, even more money, might be a billionaire when he gets out rather than my original estimate of being a millionaire

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As we discussed. Not stupid is that fuckwit

Walk around some of the known Muslim areas of Bolton and ask them then.

I'm not talking to a customer about anyone having sex with his prepubescent daughter.

 

I just thought it odd about how different cultures define adulthood

As I'm sure you were both aware I was being fascetious! But he seemed happy enough to state his feelings on the subject knowing, I assume, how you'd feel about it.

 

On that last bit, aye I agree. I got slated, even called a nonce by some on here, for suggesting that the age of consent is a shifting morality and no one culture has the 'right answer'. That's why I said about his own daughter.

 

Surely, if you believe a menstruating girl is fair game the acid test would be allowing sex with your own daughter at that stage?

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Pretty sure much of this goes back hundreds of years when life expectancy was much lower.

Iirc folk used to have children much earlier here too.

 

In some third world places I suppose it's instinctive to breed early.

We've moved on and now find it repugnant. Some cultures don't.

 

Plenty of modernisation still required.

This has been posted before and there’s plenty more online with similar discussion.

 

http://www.youtu.be/mpT2idZO7uI

 

End of the day, the Muslim culture integrates into ours very well on the whole.

 

Multiculturalism is what makes this country what it is. We are better off with it.

 

But it breaks down when it comes to things like this. The way they view woman and girls is wrong.

You can’t say anything these days for fear of upsetting some PC wanker.

 

We’ve become conditioned to accepting it, nobody challenges anything.

 

Castrate us all, zap our brains then we’re all zombies with no thought process, opinions or cravings.

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You can’t say anything these days for fear of upsetting some PC wanker.

 

We’ve become conditioned to accepting it, nobody challenges anything.

 

Castrate us all, zap our brains then we’re all zombies with no thought process, opinions or cravings.

I agree 100%. It's easy to go all tin foil hat on such subjects but just look around.

 

That pie comedian summed it up saying free speech isn't cool anymore. It's bang on yet folk are happy to see their freedoms eroded as it means a tiny minority won't get offended . . .

 

They'll be getting offended at something else soon and then . . .

 

Anyone with a strong opinion is made to seem like a loon.

 

My worry with all this isn't the small stuff it's the longer term. What happens when/if a really dangerous loon gets power and free speech is doctored, the press are all bent and they have control of military and police? Oh that would never happen you loon . . . Well, it's happening right here and now. The backlash towards the far right by many across Europe being a prime example.

 

Ever listened to Jordan Peterson? Speaks a hell of a lot of sense yet every time I've seen him on mainstream networks over here they try to make him look daft and archaic. There's an good e.g. on YT where he talks to two lasses on the BBC, one of them created the equality act.

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Really? Is that true? I reckon I've still got freedom of speech.

 

I reckon it's just using that freedom with a bit of common sense. In short, just try not to be a cunt. It's not that difficult.

Really? Is that true? I reckon I've still got freedom of speech.

 

I reckon it's just using that freedom with a bit of common sense. In short, just try not to be a cunt. It's not that difficult.

Didn't say you didn't. I said it's being eroded slowly.

 

Mick, any society in history that tolerated restrictions on free speech never ended well.

 

Like I say, it's not the small stuff- I don't mind referring to Dave as Sandra if it makes him happy but I don't like being forced to. It's a slippery slope. Surely you can see that?

Didn't say you didn't. I said it's being eroded slowly.

 

Mick, any society in history that tolerated restrictions on free speech never ended well.

 

Like I say, it's not the small stuff- I don't mind referring to Dave as Sandra if it makes him happy but I don't like being forced to. It's a slippery slope. Surely you can see that?

 

 

I'll use my 'don't be a cunt' guideline.

 

Dave can be called whatever he wants. If you want to call him something else, then you're just being a cunt. 

 

And who is forcing you? You can still be a cunt as much as you like.

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Aye

 

Freedom of speech doesn't make you immune to a backlash or criticm

 

It doesn't mean you can say what you want to who you want and not be judged

 

Respect Dave's decision

Really? Is that true? I reckon I've still got freedom of speech.

 

I reckon it's just using that freedom with a bit of common sense. In short, just try not to be a cunt. It's not that difficult.

 

 

Well you seem to be struggling.

 

 

I'll use my 'don't be a cunt' guideline.

 

Dave can be called whatever he wants. If you want to call him something else, then you're just being a cunt. 

 

And who is forcing you? You can still be a cunt as much as you like.

 

Hate speech laws - potentially.

 

Aye

 

Freedom of speech doesn't make you immune to a backlash or criticm

 

It doesn't mean you can say what you want to who you want and not be judged

 

Respect Dave's decision

 

 

I'm happy to, said that.  Well, I'm more than happy to not offend someone if politeness is the order of the day.  I'm English ffs!  ;)

 

Were I a cnut though and said, 'No, fcuk off, you're a man, clearly' - Dave might get offended.  As you would, right?

 

But then - and this is where my issue is - he complains to the police that you used hate speech and Bingo, you have a record and potentially get sent down.

 

Where's the free speech there?  

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Hate speech laws - potentially.

 

 

 

I'm happy to, said that. Well, I'm more than happy to not offend someone if politeness is the order of the day. I'm English ffs! ;)

 

Were I a cnut though and said, 'No, fcuk off, you're a man, clearly' - Dave might get offended. As you would, right?

 

But then - and this is where my issue is - he complains to the police that you used hate speech and Bingo, you have a record and potentially get sent down.

 

Where's the free speech there?

You realise that you aren’t actually complaining about free speech or lack thereof don’t you? It’s always been the case that you have freedom of speech in this country. But that doesn’t and never has meant say what you like without consequence.

 

What you are complaining about is that general societal acceptability is different to your own. General society has moved on.

Well you seem to be struggling.

 

Maybe - it's also clear you gave up trying years ago.

Maybe - it's also clear you gave up trying years ago.

 

 

A salient point to which I freely admit  ;)

You realise that you aren’t actually complaining about free speech or lack thereof don’t you? It’s always been the case that you have freedom of speech in this country. But that doesn’t and never has meant say what you like without consequence.

 

What you are complaining about is that general societal acceptability is different to your own. General society has moved on.

 

If any repercussions are based on subjective offence then I'd say that means one's freedoms to speak are affected.  UK laws on free speech/defamation are stricter than most western nations as it is.

 

I agree society changes and there's always been repercussions but that's to do with defamation and civil unrest etc.  The Scottish 'comedian' would a good recent e.g. - sentenced for a joke ( a shit one aye) as a Judge found it offensive.   That's a slippy slope.   Hate speech could potentially be used far too broadly, that's my concern - not that I can't call a tranny just that if I so chose to.

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